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Title: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: henryd on 22 October 2015, 12:05:09
 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/shopping-and-consumer-news/11947254/Zafiras-burst-into-flames-Vauxhall-considers-recall.html
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2015, 12:19:33
Hmmmm.....the video was a bit disappointing, no smoke or flames or anything  :(
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 October 2015, 13:07:56
No, more likely a loom fault I would say.

Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: KSR on 22 October 2015, 17:36:22
The heater fan components and wiring are dog shit on those.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 October 2015, 18:48:22
The Zafira seems to be a car which is hard to really love........think white goods.

Perhaps some owners are being a bit clumsy with a box of matches and a gallon of unleaded. :) ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2015, 18:50:45
The Zafira seems to be a car which is hard to really love........think white goods.

Perhaps some owners are being a bit clumsy with a box of matches and a gallon of unleaded. :) ::)
I quite liked mine but, then again, I'm only used to driving shite.  :(

Ohhh......an omega, an omega, my kingdom for an omega.  ;D
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 October 2015, 18:56:11
The Zafira seems to be a car which is hard to really love........think white goods.

Perhaps some owners are being a bit clumsy with a box of matches and a gallon of unleaded. :) ::)
I quite liked mine but, then again, I'm only used to driving shite.  :(

Ohhh......an omega, an omega, my kingdom for an omega.  ;D

I wonder if I should comment? ;D ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2015, 19:04:41
The Zafira seems to be a car which is hard to really love........think white goods.

Perhaps some owners are being a bit clumsy with a box of matches and a gallon of unleaded. :) ::)
I quite liked mine but, then again, I'm only used to driving shite.  :(

Ohhh......an omega, an omega, my kingdom for an omega.  ;D

I wonder if I should comment? ;D ::)
Yes, join in. Two experts on driving shite.  ;D
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 22 October 2015, 19:06:26
Oh...and by the way, watchdog will be putting their tuppence worth in on BBC1 tonight.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: SMD on 22 October 2015, 21:21:42
Luckily mine is off the road  :o 

Mine vibrates (or did it squeak?) from the dash over certain types of roads. Can't remember now as its been a very long time since I last drove it
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Varche on 22 October 2015, 21:30:06
I thought power sounder!
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: EMD on 22 October 2015, 23:02:03
Oh...and by the way, watchdog will be putting their tuppence worth in on BBC1 tonight.

And the heater fan components and resister were mentioned as a possible fault as someone said . Blocked pollen filter was mentioned too  :( 
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 October 2015, 08:06:08
I bet its the heater resistor, what will be interesting is if the ones going to smoke are genuine ones or the real cheap nasty tat that you buy on ebay.

Climate control is the answer!  ;D :y

I was actually thinking about my Zafira this morning and to be honest, its a bloody good car, pretty well built, reliable, economical, pretty comfortable, enough room.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: EMD on 23 October 2015, 09:17:18
That will now lower the used values so will be looking around for one . Guess the dash has to come out to check/replace the resistor  :-\
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: zirk on 23 October 2015, 10:21:03
VX claiming its down to non GM replacement parts are causing the issue.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: KSR on 23 October 2015, 10:36:18
VX claiming its down to non GM replacement parts are causing the issue.


commence law suits to euro car parts for wang chung resistors

Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: SMD on 23 October 2015, 10:45:27
Well mine has climate control so I'm safe  :y
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 October 2015, 12:24:00
That will now lower the used values so will be looking around for one . Guess the dash has to come out to check/replace the resistor  :-\

Glove box out job, quite easy  :y
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 October 2015, 12:24:40
VX claiming its down to non GM replacement parts are causing the issue.

That does not surprise me at all, as said above, these pattern heater resistors are bloody dangerous things
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 October 2015, 14:22:53
Don't mind Zafiras. To be fair they can swallow more gear than even an Omega estate, and in the length of an Astra. Same for the Merivas - there's nothing to make you damp about the trouser, but a car the length of a Corsa that can take a couple of fridges ain't half bad.  :) My auntie has one, and it's just a car. Nothing more, nothing less. But does what it says on the tin faultlessly. Rubbish as a throaty V8 rear-drive autobahn stormer... but then it never promises to be.  :)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 October 2015, 14:33:41
Don't mind Zafiras. To be fair they can swallow more gear than even an Omega estate, and in the length of an Astra. Same for the Merivas - there's nothing to make you damp about the trouser, but a car the length of a Corsa that can take a couple of fridges ain't half bad.  :) My auntie has one, and it's just a car. Nothing more, nothing less. But does what it says on the tin faultlessly. Rubbish as a throaty V8 rear-drive autobahn stormer... but then it never promises to be.  :)

Are we talking STMO damp about the trousers........or something else? ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 October 2015, 14:56:38
Anybody spot the difference:

Genuine

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTg5WDE2MDA=/z/eG8AAOSwv0tVVfBn/$_57.JPG)

Tatt:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxMjAw/z/cr0AAOSwYGFUt2Hg/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 October 2015, 16:40:48
The real one uses a soldered copper strip instead of a clamped resistor(?) and brass tracks instead of tin(?)  :-\
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 October 2015, 17:00:41
I am assuming the clamped item is a thermal fuse.

The genuine has a heat resistant plastic as its base to with a moulded part which is separate, pattern is just a naff plastic used to form the whole base.

I saw one so bad a year ago I refused to fit it !
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: EMD on 23 October 2015, 18:25:16
Thats one part i wouldn't buy pattern  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2015, 10:17:44
I was actually thinking about my Zafira this morning and to be honest, its a bloody good car, pretty well built, reliable, economical, pretty comfortable, enough room.
ITs well known I really don't get along with mine, but I would have to agree its a trustworthy old dog, especially as it gets absolutely no love and attention at all. It gets what it needs and sod all else. This year it has had new rear springs (snapped), new shocks (adviso before I got it, and starting to get bouncy at the back), new rear pads (metal on metal), oil and screenwash.

It doesn't particularly shine in any area (as I don't need 7 seats, possibly its best party trick), but I know when I find it again it will start (reluctantly) and get me to my destination.

I have a real problem with comfort in it causing massive swelling and pain for a couple of days if used for any distance, but I do have a couple of unrelated back issues.


Reminds me though, I really should go and look for it and give it a run - I need to pop to Witney today :)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: TheBoy on 24 October 2015, 10:21:43
Those fan resistors do get pretty hot, so everything around it needs to be capable of withstanding a lot of heat over very extended periods. Many cheap ones (for any car) can't.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Andy H on 24 October 2015, 11:16:26
Breakfast TV interviewed one of the owners this morning:

Owner "we took our complaint to Vauxhall after reading about similar cases on the internet but Vauxhall weren't interested and said it was because we had parts fitted that were not made by Vauxhall"
Interviewer "have you had any work done in the dashboard area of your Zafira?"
Owner "er yes"
Interviewer "what was the reason?"
Owner "the heater would only work on speed 4, it's a common problem on Zafiras"
Interviewer "was the work done at a Vauxhall dealers?"
Owner "er no"

I lost interest after that point ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: ronnyd on 24 October 2015, 15:06:26
I recall one "expert" saying to listen out for whirring/ clicking noises from behind the dash. Good job it,s not an Omega fault as mine does it all the time. :)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: EMD on 24 October 2015, 16:45:11
I recall one "expert" saying to listen out for whirring/ clicking noises from behind the dash. Good job it,s not an Omega fault as mine does it all the time. :)

Thats just the solenoids overheating  :-X Main thing is that the P/S is in the bin  :)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: ronnyd on 24 October 2015, 17:19:08
Isn,t it just the servos operating the aircon flaps behind the dash? ???
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 October 2015, 07:48:34
I think Vx are handling this well as they have committed to check all cars and if a pattern part has been fitted, swap it for a genuine one.

No charge
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Andy H on 25 October 2015, 08:07:00
Isn,t it just the servos operating the aircon flaps behind the dash? ???
Yes
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: Andy B on 25 October 2015, 08:38:50
I think Vx are handling this well as they have committed to check all cars and if a pattern part has been fitted, swap it for a genuine one.

No charge

If a pattern part is found to be fitted, then presumably the original part failed ........ will the new OE part be any better than the OE part that was replaced?  ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 October 2015, 08:43:30
I think Vx are handling this well as they have committed to check all cars and if a pattern part has been fitted, swap it for a genuine one.

No charge

If a pattern part is found to be fitted, then presumably the original part failed ........ will the new OE part be any better than the OE part that was replaced?  ::)
Surely a moot point if the genuine parts don't self combust ::)
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: steve6367 on 25 October 2015, 08:45:29
Indeed, fail safely is one thing, catch fire it quite another!
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: andyc on 27 October 2015, 21:22:51
All resistors are being changed regardless and all parts are being returned to GM for inspection
Andy
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 05 November 2015, 21:00:13
So, a recall issued.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: andyc on 06 November 2015, 17:47:52
No it is not a RECALL as nothing is being changed unless it needs to be. Watch this if not already

https://youtu.be/94p8dlprqi8



Andy
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: STEMO on 06 November 2015, 18:01:57
Tell the BBC.
Title: Re: Power Sounder issues per chance ??
Post by: andyc on 06 November 2015, 18:13:47
Yes it is amazing the crap the press come out with, they really should read the statements first

Andy