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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Terbs on 04 November 2015, 13:01:52
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Hi all.
I am fitting another centre armrest to the 03 saloon. I have got the rest out easily, and disconnected the back panel that holds the cigarette lighter. The wiring is different on the new one, also the new panel is better than my old one. I therefore want to swap the cigarette lighters over, but for the life of me I can't see how to extract them. :-[
Is the ring on the face unscrewable, then it drops out, or is it more complex than that. I don't want to force anything.
Help appreciated.
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often a couple of tags on the inside to squeeze... but don't know for certain :-\
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They are mounted 'simply' by being clipped in, but I did one once (PFL) and it was a chronic pain to get out, and I am sure involved chopping/dremel-ing it a fair amount. But if it went in, it will come out. :y
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That's my philosophy , DBG, but its got me flummoxed at the moment !!!! :(
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I think for the price of a generic 12v socket, the final decision was it would have been easier to destroy the old one, and just clip a new aftermarket one in (or perhaps use the opportunity now to fit a usb port?) than the massive faff and painful fingers which trying to remove the original safely, in one, was.
If memory serves it comes a bit but them there's the part which holds the bulb, which protrudes, and won't let the whole unit come out. All I can say is you're not really doing anything wrong, they're just a chronic pain.
Might we be entering the territory of cutting the wires - on your car's loom and the new 12v socket, and splicing them together?
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We could be heading that way. Both lighters are different, my existing does not have a bulb, and the new one does. The wires are different too. I think I may 'butcher' the lighter in the new panel, to give me an idea of how they surrender. As you say, worse scenario is a hole, and fit a generic one. I assume they can be picked up easily :y Will have to check the bay ;)
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Had a similar problem here as the 12 Volt cover plate was missing and I like things "just so"
Tried several methods to remove the socket body but it would not budge despite trying everything except breaking it.
My final solution was to replace the entire switch panel with a good condition replacement.
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My experience witht he evil cig lighter was my attempting to fit the springloaded 12v cover as on Vectra Cs, which we considered a nicer solution compared with the floppy rubber affair on the Omega. In the end I seem to recall the thing only budged a small amount, and we had to cut the ring on the flippy cover, in order to pass round and underneath the 12v outles bezel.
Have to say the 'get a new trim panel' or 'cut/splice the wiring to suit' solution is looking more and more likely :(
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I have surrendered...temporarily....
I have put the existing panel onto the new armrest for now and installed back in the car. Only a five minute job to remove.
Butchery has prevailed with the new backplate, the lighter is out, and the panel is in good nick. I will source another lighter, then switch back panels later. :y
Thanks for all your time and input, its most appreciated :y
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No worries, most welcome. Some thinners and a match, followed by a mallet will ease the tension with the old lighter, later tonight. :y
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Unfortunately, there is nothing left to set fire to :(
I have to admit, and it does not happen often, but I lost my rag getting it out, and once out, it was beaten to a pulp with a 4lb club hammer. Not like me, but I lost it this time. ;D
I do feel less stressed now though :y
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Unfortunately, there is nothing left to set fire to :(
I have to admit, and it does not happen often, but I lost my rag getting it out, and once out, it was beaten to a pulp with a 4lb club hammer. Not like me, but I lost it this time. ;D
I do feel less stressed now though :y
I think this comes with age :( Ive been getting worse lately and talking to myself after ive swore at any little job that becomes irritating :'(
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Butchery has prevailed with the new backplate.....
You animal. ;) ;D
I removed mine by using circlip pliers with the angled arms turned outwards. Put in position in the lighter socket, line up with the little black tabs about halfway down the metal barrel, squeeze pliers together and pull socket upwards. Unplug when clear of hole. :y
No injuries to me, the backplate or the lighter socket. :y
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I've only got one thing to say to you, Alan....where were you when I needed you.....no use coming on now, with your 'oh its easy' approach ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The air has been rather blue here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I've only got one thing to say to you, Alan....where were you when I needed you.....no use coming on now, with your 'oh its easy' approach ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
The air has been rather blue here ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D
I saw the title and thought to myself, I know the answer to this one, and replied. I knew it was too late but thought I'd reply to get that response, and I wasn't disappointed. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Anyhow, thanks mate...I still have the other one to extract at some point. :y
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Anyhow, thanks mate...I still have the other one to extract at some point. :y
No problem. :y It is very fiddly trying to line up the plier tips with the plastic tabs. I shone a torch down there to see what I was doing a bit better. :y
If you search, you will find that I asked the same question a couple of years back and the answer was to smash it out, so you are not alone. I'm just very inquisitive about how things fit and eventually came up with the pliers idea. :)
Good luck with the other one. :y
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It's one of those jobs I have done, and is quite fiddly... far easier to do than to explain, for me anyways...
Easier done methodically off the car :y
Moral of the tale? Always get loom tails whenever you buy any electrical spares ::)
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Ironically, Alan, I searched through 7 pages before I posted. I did see the destruction post :y
And, as Al says....much easier for access off the car :y
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My experience witht he evil cig lighter was my attempting to fit the springloaded 12v cover as on Vectra Cs, which we considered a nicer solution compared with the floppy rubber affair on the Omega.
Did this work? I'm making a little pile of bits to improve my pair, but in a factory+ way.
Still don't know if my shiny new USB/ cigar lighter panel will fit in the glovebox out of the way... :-\
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My experience witht he evil cig lighter was my attempting to fit the springloaded 12v cover as on Vectra Cs, which we considered a nicer solution compared with the floppy rubber affair on the Omega.
Did this work? I'm making a little pile of bits to improve my pair, but in a factory+ way.
Still don't know if my shiny new USB/ cigar lighter panel will fit in the glovebox out of the way... :-\
Late Omega facelifts already have this feature ;)
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My experience witht he evil cig lighter was my attempting to fit the springloaded 12v cover as on Vectra Cs, which we considered a nicer solution compared with the floppy rubber affair on the Omega.
Did this work? I'm making a little pile of bits to improve my pair, but in a factory+ way.
Still don't know if my shiny new USB/ cigar lighter panel will fit in the glovebox out of the way... :-\
Late Omega facelifts already have this feature ;)
Shows how much attention I pay... I'm sure both mine are floppier than a floppy thing!
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Always thought it would have been a good mod on the production line to have these, glad they did it, but to Gastro - yes, worked great, and after many years of use was still fine. On a PFL requires cutting into the panel on which the 12v socket sits, for anyone wishing to try it on older cars :)
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Always thought it would have been a good mod on the production line to have these, glad they did it, but to Gastro - yes, worked great, and after many years of use was still fine. On a PFL requires cutting into the panel on which the 12v socket sits, for anyone wishing to try it on older cars :)
Rear panel is very different... due in no small part to the differences between the centre consoles :y
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Yes, indeed, much differences. I did it on both PFL and FL cars. Stating that the process for FL doesn't require and chopping into the actual car trim, whereas on PFL it does, as the 12v outlet is recessed on PFL/MFL cars :)
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Might be slightly at cross purposes...
Later facelift Omegas look like this...
(http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y486/05omegav6/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20151105_135716_zpsyxnbsnmi.jpg)
Obviously an Elite one, heated rear seats, but 12v socket identical :y