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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: STEMO on 10 November 2015, 16:24:08
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Just seen my next door neighbours sister pull up in one. Lovely looking car. She tells me it's a 1 litre petrol turbo and it drives really well. Might consider one for wifey when I can get a year old one. Not paying VAT.
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Plenty of new features too
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/vauxhall/astra/66610/new-vauxhall-astra-2015-prices-specs-and-frankfurt-debut
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I was looking at one in the dealers a week or two back. Most seem to be small engines ..... no 2.0 petrol. The one I choose on the Vauxhall website came to around £27000 :o
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I was looking at one in the dealers a week or two back. Most seem to be small engines ..... no 2.0 petrol. The one I choose on the Vauxhall website came to around £27000 :o
£4500 of that is VAT.
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Biggest engine thus far is the 1.6 CDTi.......I would expect that to change though.
And of course, nobody pays anywhere near list price! ;D
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This is the engine choice I'd go for, very reasonably price if you look at the standard options
http://www.walkersmotorgroup.co.uk/new-cars/vauxhall/new-astra/10i-sri-105ps-turbo-ss-ecoflex/0000160535
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The 1.4 Turbo is a much better drive. :y
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Good looker, a well-resolved design. Nothing is too 'over the top' about it, I always thought the Mk III was a classy looking Astra, and this 7th Gen possibly the classiest-looking since then
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The 1.4 Turbo is a much better drive. :y
By better you mean sportier, I take it. Wifey is not to be trusted, I'm afraid. When she had the MGZT she was an absolute lunatic.
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All of the options on the 1.0 as standard are not there on the 1.4 :-\
http://www.walkersmotorgroup.co.uk/new-cars/vauxhall/new-astra/14i-design-125ps-turbo/0000160516
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
I would be on the lookout for the last of the old model which will be heavily discounted and also looks better.
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
I would be on the lookout for the last of the old model which will be heavily discounted and also looks better.
So....you admit it then......mine looks better than the new shape. ;D
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
I would be on the lookout for the last of the old model which will be heavily discounted and also looks better.
So....you admit it then......mine looks better than the new shape. ;D
Yes, indeed.
A most handsome means of conveyance. :)
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But obviously not in projectile vomit green. :)
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
I would be on the lookout for the last of the old model which will be heavily discounted and also looks better.
So....you admit it then......mine looks better than the new shape. ;D
Yes, indeed.
A most handsome means of conveyance. :)
Complete with handsome driver. :)
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But obviously not in projectile vomit green. :)
I was chatting to a young girl in a car park the other day, she had a GTC in the same colour and loved it. I won't be put off by an old fart like you. :P
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But obviously not in projectile vomit green. :)
I was chatting to a young girl in a car park the other day, she had a GTC in the same colour and loved it. I won't be put off by an old fart like you. :P
Oh yes. I see. Taking advantage of innocent young virgins again are we. ;D
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But obviously not in projectile vomit green. :)
I was chatting to a young girl in a car park the other day, she had a GTC in the same colour and loved it. I won't be put off by an old fart like you. :P
Oh yes. I see. Taking advantage of innocent young virgins again are we. ;D
I wish... :(
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
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Biggest engine thus far is the 1.6 CDTi.......I would expect that to change though.
I'd imanine there'll be a GSi/GTE/go faster version eventually
And of course, nobody pays anywhere near list price! ;D
I won't be buying a new anything. ;) I just liked the 'floating roofline' at the dealers & went throug the motions of box ticking :y :y
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire. Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
Only about cars, I can pretend I know stuff with them ;D
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
Tells them he has a van full of puppies and would they care to take a look. :)
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Boot looks small? If its anything like the Insignia inside, its going to be rubbish.
What's the 1.4 Turbo like in the Zafira then? Any good.
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Mondeos and Transit Connects can be had with 1.0l turbo power,as can rest of Ford car range ::)
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
Tells them he has a van full of puppies and would they care to take a look. :)
I live in Yorkshire, we eat puppies up here. ;D
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Boot looks small? If its anything like the Insignia inside, its going to be rubbish.
What's the 1.4 Turbo like in the Zafira then? Any good.
It's going to be rubbish if you need a big boot, not if you don't. ::)
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
Tells them he has a van full of puppies and would they care to take a look. :)
I live in Yorkshire, we eat puppies up here. ;D
Deep fried, I imagine. :)
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
I imagine that longevity will be compromised. 30,000 miles and it will probably be a bucket full of bits. :)
Just been looking at personal contract hire.While chatting to a young girl, Circa £200 a month and who cares if it falls to bits after that.
You got something to say? ;D
Yes i have ... Your always chatting to young girls ;D ;D
Tells them he has a van full of puppies and would they care to take a look. :)
I live in Yorkshire, we eat puppies up here. ;D
Deep fried, I imagine. :)
Your making me hungry now :(
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Boot looks small? If its anything like the Insignia inside, its going to be rubbish.
What's the 1.4 Turbo like in the Zafira then? Any good.
It's going to be rubbish if you need a big boot, not if you don't. ::)
Maybe it's photos but it looks smaller than usual for the size of that car
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Boot looks small? If its anything like the Insignia inside, its going to be rubbish.
What's the 1.4 Turbo like in the Zafira then? Any good.
It's going to be rubbish if you need a big boot, not if you don't. ::)
Maybe it's photos but it looks smaller than usual for the size of that car
Wifey, the person who I wanted it for, throws a briefcase and a few books in there. Ample.
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Job jobbed then :y
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
there must have been something wrong with the car as I have just had for the past month a 1.0 litre focus zectec (albeit the higher compression engine) and it went like a little rocket :y
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I had one as a hire car in Germany over the summer, I found it to be fine, obviously not a rocket ship but didnt feel out of its depth on a-roads, motorways etc.
It also sounded quite good, compared to a standard 1.6 lump I mean. However I think if you extract enough performance from it to make reasonable progress the economy is shot!
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A pissy little one litre lump even with the aid of a turbo is going to be struggling in a car the size and weight of the new Astra.
My cousin had a 1 litre turbo Focus estate for a while and said it was great for running around in and short trips :y , but struggled a bit at motorway speeds if you needed a bit extra to get past something. ;)
there must have been something wrong with the car as I have just had for the past month a 1.0 litre focus zectec (albeit the higher compression engine) and it went like a little rocket :y
Says alot coming from someone who thinks the 2.2 Vectra C is really good :D
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have you not got a wheel chair to go and push ffs
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I looked at the new astra to replace the Leon as my lease is up I wasn't too impressed not as comfortable as the Leon and seemed less space inside and too get one the same spec as the Leon was nearly 3.5k more
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I looked at the new astra to replace the Leon as my lease is up I wasn't too impressed not as comfortable as the Leon and seemed less space inside and too get one the same spec as the Leon was nearly 3.5k more
Leon's not a car I've really thought about, but I've heard good things about them. Trouble is, when it's for the wife, she's got to like the look of it, and I just know she'd thing the Leon was too plain.
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I looked at the new astra to replace the Leon as my lease is up I wasn't too impressed not as comfortable as the Leon and seemed less space inside and too get one the same spec as the Leon was nearly 3.5k more
Leon's not a car I've really thought about, but I've heard good things about them. Trouble is, when it's for the wife, she's got to like the colour, and I just know she'd thing the Leon was too plain.
You're overthinking things here Uncle STEMO. ;) :y
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I think it look's okay they do drive well mine's is a 1.6Tdi and over the last 2.5k it's averaging 51.6 mpg mixed driving if driven gently I can almost get from Durham to Sussex and back on a tank
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I looked at the new astra to replace the Leon as my lease is up I wasn't too impressed not as comfortable as the Leon and seemed less space inside and too get one the same spec as the Leon was nearly 3.5k more
Leon's not a car I've really thought about, but I've heard good things about them. Trouble is, when it's for the wife, she's got to like the colour, and I just know she'd thing the Leon was too plain.
You're overthinking things here Uncle STEMO. ;) :y
She's not a complete airhead. Well....actually......hmmmmm :-\
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have you not got a wheel chair to go and push ffs
Nope... we play with proper toys outside :P
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have you not got a wheel chair to go and push ffs
Nope... we play with proper toys outside :P
(http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/graphics/etihad01.jpg)
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Utter brilliance ;D
You couldn't make that up...
1. Take one empty, brand new A340-600 for a final predelivery test.
2. Taxi across airfield to face a 6 m wall 100m and apply the parking brake.
3. Wind all four Rolls Royce Trents up to take off power without setting the flaps for take off.
4. Ignore the computer warning telling you that the aircraft isn't configured for take off.
5. Get so fed up with said warning that you pull the ground proximity warning breaker to trick the aircraft into thinking it's actually hovering.
6. Realise a little too late that step 5 releases the brakes automatically so that you don't land with the wheels locked.
7. Wake up unemployed in hospital a day later.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25d_1279544545
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Utter brilliance ;D
You couldn't make that up...
1. Take one empty, brand new A340-600 for a final predelivery test.
2. Taxi across airfield to face a 6 m wall 100m and apply the parking brake.
3. Wind all four Rolls Royce Trents up to take off power without setting the flaps for take off.
4. Ignore the computer warning telling you that the aircraft isn't configured for take off.
5. Get so fed up with said warning that you pull the ground proximity warning breaker to trick the aircraft into thinking it's actually hovering.
6. Realise a little too late that step 5 releases the brakes automatically so that you don't land with the wheels locked.
7. Wake up unemployed in hospital a day later.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25d_1279544545
Were you a civvy pilot in a previous life? ;) ;)
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Utter brilliance ;D
You couldn't make that up...
1. Take one empty, brand new A340-600 for a final predelivery test.
2. Taxi across airfield to face a 6 m wall 100m and apply the parking brake.
3. Wind all four Rolls Royce Trents up to take off power without setting the flaps for take off.
4. Ignore the computer warning telling you that the aircraft isn't configured for take off.
5. Get so fed up with said warning that you pull the ground proximity warning breaker to trick the aircraft into thinking it's actually hovering.
6. Realise a little too late that step 5 releases the brakes automatically so that you don't land with the wheels locked.
7. Wake up unemployed in hospital a day later.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25d_1279544545
Were you a civvy pilot in a previous life? ;) ;)
No an Air Accident Investigator who drove a taxi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Utter brilliance ;D
You couldn't make that up...
1. Take one empty, brand new A340-600 for a final predelivery test.
2. Taxi across airfield to face a 6 m wall 100m and apply the parking brake.
3. Wind all four Rolls Royce Trents up to take off power without setting the flaps for take off.
4. Ignore the computer warning telling you that the aircraft isn't configured for take off.
5. Get so fed up with said warning that you pull the ground proximity warning breaker to trick the aircraft into thinking it's actually hovering.
6. Realise a little too late that step 5 releases the brakes automatically so that you don't land with the wheels locked.
7. Wake up unemployed in hospital a day later.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=25d_1279544545
Were you a civvy pilot in a previous life? ;) ;)
No an Air Accident Investigator who drove a taxi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Something of an inaccurate account of the incident. Which was actually Airbus' fu£kup. Story designed to play into the anti Muslim stereotypes, in this case by way of "weren't the Arab crew dumb" type story.
A more accurate description of events is below. Including a translation of the original air crash investigation report.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp (http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/etihad.asp)
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Net result is the same ::)
And report you linked to begins word for word identically...
Fact 1. Several people screwed up.
Fact 2. Parking brake was released. How is irrelevant as the aircraft was already moving and both versions would release the parking brake.
Fact 3. Not one person in the cockpit had the sense to throttle back.
:y
Certainly a quick and effective way of spending $200,000,000.
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Net result is the same ::)
Only in as much as a plane gets totalled. The Who, the why and the how of the incident are wrong. Specifically, the live leak article MADE UP a number of aspects of the "incident". Namely.
a report released by French investigators in December 2008 (translated into English here) did not identify the cause of the crash to be ADAT technicians who were unfamiliar with the aircraft and overrode a vital safety feature:
And report you linked to begins word for word identically...
Yes, because Snooes articles quote the BS version first, followed by a more factual account. ::) ::) ::)
Sure, in the end it's a good waste of $200m but linking to a made up article which has clear racist overtones is a bit too Britain First for my taste.
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Only linked to it as a reference to the incident rather than for any sociopolitical innuendo ;)
Picture suggested an overrun, so a witty comment about Airbus engineers confusing metres with feet might have been apt, but would have been no more technically accurate... ::)
Anywho, about this Astra...
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The 1.4T Astra is rubbish. It moves ok 'on song' but for the usual in-town driving, it's pathetic. On the Motorway, it's revving it's gonads off at 70.... get to usual motorway speeds and it's unbelievably noisy.
So much so, my mucker traded his 1.4T for a 2.0CDTI after about 4 months of ownership.
(Both brand new cars)
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Anywho, about this Astra...
Looks ok, think I prefer the previous model. However, since the last astra I owned was an R plate 1.4i sh!tbox, I'm probably a bit out of touch on this one. ;D
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Oooh!! the 1.4 combined with the slushbox, by 'eck they went like a glacier with a hangover!
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Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.
I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.
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That's my argument with running my 2.5 V6... ok, so compared with say my mate's 1.4 Fiesta round town clearly the winner on mpg is the blue oval, however, load up the two cars, take them from a run on the motorway, factor in the extra revs the little car has to do to keep up with modern traffic etc... my car's had a very recent service, running (relatively)very good, his is getting tired, at half the mileage, and in real terms the mpg difference isn't that much.
A larger, unstressed engine vs a smaller 'more economical' engine, but being ragged off its engine mounts all day every day, and the larger engine wins out for me every time :)
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Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.
I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.
Shows what little you know about Turbos :y
It wont be working any harder than one on a V6, its delivering air to a set pressure, period.
The 1.4T is cracking engine with 140bhp and over boost, shifts these little cars along really well (New Astra is a few hundred kilos lighter than the J, god knows what was wrong with the one Broomies Mate mentions, must have been a lower output derivative with a 5 speed).
To put it into perspective, the 1.4T's I have driven were all doing less rpm at 70 than a 3.0 Omega would be doing in top.
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Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.
I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.
Shows what little you know about Turbos :y
It wont be working any harder than one on a V6, its delivering air to a set pressure, period.
The 1.4T is cracking engine with 140bhp and over boost, shifts these little cars along really well (New Astra is a few hundred kilos lighter than the J, god knows what was wrong with the one Broomies Mate mentions, must have been a lower output derivative with a 5 speed).
To put it into perspective, the 1.4T's I have driven were all doing less rpm at 70 than a 3.0 Omega would be doing in top.
I've driven the 1.4 T,they go bloody well although the one I drove needed a new motor at 30k miles,GM picked up the tab though which impressed me seeing car is a 10 plate and it happenned earlier this year
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Not sure I'd want to own a 1.4T, in something fairly heavy that Turbo will be working over-time.
I'd have concerns on the long term reliability of something so highly strung, rather than a say a 1.8 petrol which has to work less hard and no turbo to worry about.
Shows what little you know about Turbos :y
It wont be working any harder than one on a V6, its delivering air to a set pressure, period.
The 1.4T is cracking engine with 140bhp and over boost, shifts these little cars along really well (New Astra is a few hundred kilos lighter than the J, god knows what was wrong with the one Broomies Mate mentions, must have been a lower output derivative with a 5 speed).
To put it into perspective, the 1.4T's I have driven were all doing less rpm at 70 than a 3.0 Omega would be doing in top.
I know Turbo's no different to V6, but my point is compared to non-Turbo'd version.
It's all very nice when they are brand new, but 80k miles down the road, it's been dealer butcher serviced all its life and when that Turbo has been spinning up and down for 80,000 miles. It's an extra item to fail? See enough Turbo failures with diesels, so for me it's just another item to go wrong and expensive to replace.
Given choice between a 1.4T and a 1.6/1.8/2.0 I'd take the non-Turbo version any day :)
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Cant recall the last turbo I saw fail, possibly a Land Rover one many moons ago, uber reliable items.
And what you say about the dealer butchered servicing applies to any of the listed engines. :y
Hard fact is that the smaller blown engines are very reliable, have the same bhp and torque as NA's with 50% more cc, use less fuel and weigh less.
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I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega :D
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Small cc blown engines are, sadly, the future.. although they can be very fun in the right application (say a Westfield/Caterham).
If you want a V8, buy one now before nobody makes them anymore :'( (Except America, they'll never give them up.. ;))
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I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega :D
As much power and torque as the 2.0 16V........ ;D
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I want a 1.4 Turbo Omega :D
As much power and torque as the 2.0 16V........ ;D
That idea lasted well! I'll stick to my big ol' V6, then! ::) Haha! Thanks Mark :y
On a more serious note, I'm pleased and thoroughly impressed that Vx have shaved about 200kg off the weight of the Astra, it's definitely the direction car companies should have been going in for years now. Maybe the Landy Disco weighing 3 ton was a wake-up call?! Lighter cars means only better ability in all areas, economy, speed, safety, the lot. Time was on the Mk 1 Astra the 1300 was the only engine you ever needed, the best combination of car to engine I've ever known. Did a million to the gallon, went like stink if you wanted it to and handled well because the body weighed less than most feather pillows.
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"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town. Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are. I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.
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"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town. Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are. I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.
Prepare to be amazed as they will become better and the norm. ;)
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"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town. Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are. I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.
Prepare to be amazed as they will become better and the norm. ;)
Aye,and who would have thought that an electric road going car that could hit 155mph would be here and available to buy :o
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"1 litre petrol turbo"
Three cylinders, .......... no thanks.
Great if you want to knock around town. Wait until your fully loaded and want to set off on a very steep hill, then you'll see how good they are. I'd be amazed if there was enough low down power to get you going without burning the clutch.
Like Prettywood ::)
My 700cc turbo'd Smart is as you suggest, great around town, but lacking in grunt on the motorway
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I think most turbo failures used to-possibly still do-came from drivers not knowing/caring how to use them,i.e.ragging them something cruel from the off and after a good thrashing just turning engine off instead of letting turbo spool down some before doing so.Whether I'd trust a cheap turbo'd car because of not knowing how it'd been treated I don't know.
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I hired a VW Caddy that wouldn't set off on a steep hill. It was just like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpa26h5Hp8
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"Like Prettywood ::)"
That would be testing for most, but it was worse than that.
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I hired a VW Caddy that wouldn't set off on a steep hill. It was just like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFpa26h5Hp8
Sounds exactly like the Peugeot 308 I tried yesterday 3 cylinder turbo horrid thing
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I've been at the garage for almost a year now. Had about 5 or 6 cars in with shagged turbos over that time. Add another 5 or 6 that had noisy turbos.
Is that a lot? Not really compared to the amount of cars we get in imo.
And were the shagged turbos down to poor maintenance? Dunno.
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I've been at the garage for almost a year now. Had about 5 or 6 cars in with shagged turbos over that time. Add another 5 or 6 that had noisy turbos.
Is that a lot? Not really compared to the amount of cars we get in imo.
And were the shagged turbos down to poor maintenance? Dunno.
Not keeping on top of oil changes is the primary cause, or indeed, thrashing the balls out of it when cold (oil not doing what it should be doing when at working temp).
Over boosting is the second - Splits or poor joints between the blower and the manifold will make the turbo work harder.
(If Intercooled) Poor intercooler will not allow proper cooling, EGT will be sky-high causing issues with many components.
Turbocharged engines DO need more regular maintenance...... And that's why I'd never buy one of these piss poor ecoBoost things. They drive badly and are generally shit. Clearly, I'm not alone. I'd too rather have a 1.8 N/A Astra than a 1.4T.
My personal opinion, of course.
Last small engined FI car I drove was in Fuerteventura. A 1.2 Golf TSI. Not bad at all, until you get up into the hills. 1st gear is a must on every sharp corner, whereas, a larger engined NA car would have pulled in 2nd without a problem. Useless.
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I've been at the garage for almost a year now. Had about 5 or 6 cars in with shagged turbos over that time. Add another 5 or 6 that had noisy turbos.
Is that a lot? Not really compared to the amount of cars we get in imo.
And were the shagged turbos down to poor maintenance? Dunno.
I would bet 90% of drivers don't know how to use/care and the do's/don't of a turbo. Not because of ignorant abuse but they just don't know that when you have a turbo you do things differently.
Cars are now running "long life" oils which isn't doing engines any long term favours. And again general "joe public" don't know any better.
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Cant recall the last turbo I saw fail, possibly a Land Rover one many moons ago, uber reliable items.
Really? So you've never worked on a Focus/Mini/Peugeot/1.7 Vauxhall then?Or a Smart? Mercedes? Saab? I could go on, but I bet you get the idea. Turbos wear out quicker than most of the rest of the engine, and installation/maintenance/abuse issues exacerbate the problem.
Nor have I met anyone who has driven a 1.0l Focus who has anything good to say about them. God knows how bad the Mondeo inflicted with that engine is.