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Title: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2015, 11:39:33
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/12006988/Mali-Bamako-terrorist-attack-170-hostages-Paris-live.html


Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 11:49:27
Or.......start changing the way we deal with these people. A few more atrocities and I reckon the decisions that need to be made will be made. The sooner the better. We're calling it war, so let's fickin get on with it.
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 20 November 2015, 12:09:12
Or.......start changing the way we deal with these people. A few more atrocities and I reckon the decisions that need to be made will be made. The sooner the better. We're calling it war, so let's fickin get on with it.
                 

Agree wholeheartedly, but our politicians need to grow some balls instead of worrying about offending someone.
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2015, 12:19:48
Or.......start changing the way we deal with these people. A few more atrocities and I reckon the decisions that need to be made will be made. The sooner the better. We're calling it war, so let's fickin get on with it.


Too true that  :y

Knowing how laid back the froggies are, I was amazed and very impressed when Hollande when he came out and called it a war  :y
Kin ell, the Argies invaded the Falkland Islands 30 od years ago and we called it a "conflict"  >:(
I for one, didn't know that the French armed forces have been quietly going about wiping these scum out in Africa for quite a while now  :)
Good on them I say  :y :y

It does worry me about this sort of thing happening in the UK though because we are totally breaked if it does and a lot of people are going to die  :(
We just don't have the necessary assets to combat scum like these in the UK unless it happens in London. 



Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Gaffers on 20 November 2015, 14:25:34
If you haven't read the Qur'an, I highly recommend it.  It gives an insight in to the faith that will contradict the cherry-picked sh!te you hear peddled in the media :y
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Shackeng on 20 November 2015, 15:23:53
If you haven't read the Qur'an, I highly recommend it.  It gives an insight in to the faith that will contradict the cherry-picked sh!te you hear peddled in the media :y

Yes, that's the annoying thing, that the radical Imams cherry pick the bits that suit their warped agenda to preach to the gullible. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 November 2015, 15:24:58
If you haven't read the Qur'an, I highly recommend it.  It gives an insight in to the faith that will contradict the cherry-picked sh!te you hear peddled in the media :y

Indeed. The summary is about promoting love and tolerance.
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 November 2015, 16:29:16
If you haven't read the Qur'an, I highly recommend it.  It gives an insight in to the faith that will contradict the cherry-picked sh!te you hear peddled in the media :y

Indeed. The summary is about promoting love and tolerance.

The devil is in the details....  ::)
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2015, 18:45:47
If you haven't read the Qur'an, I highly recommend it.  It gives an insight in to the faith that will contradict the cherry-picked sh!te you hear peddled in the media :y

Yes, that's the annoying thing, that the radical Imams cherry pick the bits that suit their warped agenda to preach to the gullible. >:( >:( >:(




That's very true that
One of my customers is an Iraqi who worked for the British forces in Basra during Dessert Storm as a interpreter.
Due of this, he was allowed to stay in the UK because himself and his family was under threat by pretty much everybody out there because he helped the allies.

I serviced his system last month and afterwards we set the world to rights as blokes do over a cuppa  :y
I have never read the Koran personally but as he says, the book is about love, family, tolerance and respect for mankind.
I can honestly say that I have never met a more respectful, true to his belief's family man in my life.

I did ask him why we don't see more British Muslim's standing up and being counted against these scumbags but his imam discourages it for whatever reason apparently  :(

Its a shame because I honestly believe that is what is needed.

 
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 18:50:54
But, if he truly believes that the Quran preaches truth and love and tolerance, then he'd tell his imam to go hang, wouldn't he? Just as any Catholic, Church of England, whatever flavour would tell their priest/vicar.
Hiding away and muttering about the imam ain't gonna get it done.
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: tigers_gonads on 20 November 2015, 19:34:54
But, if he truly believes that the Quran preaches truth and love and tolerance, then he'd tell his imam to go hang, wouldn't he? Just as any Catholic, Church of England, whatever flavour would tell their priest/vicar.
Hiding away and muttering about the imam ain't gonna get it done.


Understand what you mean Stemo and I did ask him the same question (but more diplomatically)  ;D

I cant remember his exact words but the jest of it was .................

A similar thing to people years ago when you didn't disrespect or answer back your parents  :-\
What is said behind closed doors is one thing but what is said out in the open is another  :-\

The teachings of Islamic State isn't preached out in the open by the imam.
Its muttered in dark corners of the mosque by the rebels of the faith  >:(
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 19:51:42
So we get back to my original point. If they don't want to be harassed and accused, time to start getting your loyalties right. Us.......or them?
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Gaffers on 20 November 2015, 20:43:46
So we get back to my original point. If they don't want to be harassed and accused, time to start getting your loyalties right. Us.......or them?

As scouser once nicked my bike, I know he was a scouser because I was told so.  Plus we all know that all scourers steal.  Thus I suggest you apologise and renounce for their thriving antics else be damned Mr STEMO.
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 20:58:01
So we get back to my original point. If they don't want to be harassed and accused, time to start getting your loyalties right. Us.......or them?

As scouser once nicked my bike, I know he was a scouser because I was told so.  Plus we all know that all scourers steal.  Thus I suggest you apologise and renounce for their thriving antics else be damned Mr STEMO.
I know nothing about thriving antics  :-\
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Gaffers on 20 November 2015, 21:02:41
Bloody autocorrect!

Theiving antics, numbnuts  ;D
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 21:04:31
I don't thieve, and I don't defend thieves. If I saw a scouser thieving, I would report it to the police.

Now..if only Muslims would try this..... :)
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: gbh on 20 November 2015, 21:05:51
The Muslims are as varied as the Christians and all religions,we tend to hear only the Pakistani version.My wife is Turkish by birth and of course Muslim and over 30 years going to Turkey i've met plenty,they like a drink and don't all wear any face coverings and men big beards although they do like the odd moustache,well the older ones anyway.Children all go to school the same,no head coverings.It seems as with all religions the more religious you are the less tolerant you are,oh and by the way she loves a bacon sandwich.Consider voting UKIP
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 21:07:23
The Muslims are as varied as the Christians and all religions,we tend to hear only the Pakistani version.My wife is Turkish by birth and of course Muslim and over 30 years going to Turkey i've met plenty,they like a drink and don't all wear any face coverings and men big beards although they do like the odd moustache,well the older ones anyway.Children all go to school the same,no head coverings.It seems as with all religions the more religious you are the less tolerant you are,oh and by the way she loves a bacon sandwich.Consider voting UKIP
My kinda Muslims  ;D
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: biggriffin on 20 November 2015, 21:36:55
The reasons we are seeing more Muslims wearing head/face coverings and men wearing dish-dashes, is to be in your face, "look were Muslim" 
 I have seen many a good Muslim shop keeper selling pork products to the infidels, having a flag out the back of his shop, not paying income tax, but paying the local imams a 'tax'.
 Good Muslims,good Catholic, good Christians, yeah right all trucking hypocrites.

 
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Gaffers on 20 November 2015, 21:41:13
Plenty of Muslim groups have publicly denounced extremist views.  They have even clubbed together and paid for a newspaper ad.  News outlets don't like to make light of this,  I wonder why......

All this to denounce the actions of a minority who don't share the same values as they do.

I am not sure what else you want innocent people to do in order to satisfy your fears/anguish/views?  :-\
Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: Andy H on 20 November 2015, 21:46:36
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
    Edmund Burke
    Irish orator, philosopher, & politician (1729 - 1797)

Title: Re: Best we all start learning the Koran
Post by: STEMO on 20 November 2015, 21:53:29
I think we should stop before, as always, people get offended and it kicks off. We can all say as much or as little as we like, it will make no difference whatsoever to the eventual outcome.

Thats my lot, anyway.