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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Jsp on 28 November 2015, 13:29:35

Title: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 28 November 2015, 13:29:35
Well this one is the least of my problems but the cheapest i assume to fix.
2000 Opel omega 2,5L v6 24valve

My gear knob has the leathery part broken and a piece fell off.. Now when i flick open the top plate that has the 12345R on it, the whole handle just falls off cause it's held on by it. (Sliced in half)

How hard is it to replace the gear knob? What kind of gear knobs fit?
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 28 November 2015, 15:37:22
Bump!
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 28 November 2015, 19:42:48
You don't know how to fix it or the forum is dead?

It has the lift mechanism for reverse so i assume it's not just a twist off thing..
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: JoeRadosavljevich on 28 November 2015, 19:46:51
Maybe it just screws in
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Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 November 2015, 20:26:03
The knob is not available separately... need a new/replacement assembly ;)
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: 05omegav6 on 28 November 2015, 20:30:50
You don't know how to fix it or the forum is dead?

It has the lift mechanism for reverse so i assume it's not just a twist off thing..
Neither... bumping a thread because noone has replied in a couple of hours on a saturday afternoon is just plain rude ::)

Anyways, back to my previous post... the following should explain your problem a the solution :y

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There are no nuts as such - the bolts go into a pair of flat bars that have a threaded hole at each end.  By removing the 4 bolts that hold the gear lever mounting onto the support panel, you will have allowed these 2 flat bars to move about (#19 on the diagram below), sounds like you've been unlucky and one has moved too far to be able to catch it with the bolt.

2 ways to fix this...
1) reach your hand to the top of the mounting block (#18 on the diagram) and feel for the loose bar and return it to its correct place - perhaps feel around the good side first so you can get the idea of what it is and where it goes
2) from above, drill out the pop rivets that hold the gear lever gaiter onto the transmission tunnel, you will then be able to see clearly where the errant part is

(http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g373/sjcrossan/Gear%20Lever%20Housing.jpg)
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: tunnie on 28 November 2015, 20:41:34
You don't know how to fix it or the forum is dead?

It has the lift mechanism for reverse so i assume it's not just a twist off thing..

You bumped a thread after just two hours?  ???

Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: JoeRadosavljevich on 28 November 2015, 20:51:37
Probably a youngster.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 29 November 2015, 09:22:02
Oh well.. That's rather a poor design. Guess i'll just fabricate something custom then.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: martin341 on 29 November 2015, 12:31:36
Why to fabricate some maybe it holds up, fingers crossed stuff as there is plenty of original spare parts available for not too many €?  :o
I just bought set of headlights in mint condition( yes, xenon headlights) for 20€/pair.
And your fix is not really a rocketscience to pull off :y

Martin
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 29 November 2015, 13:33:11
Why to fabricate some maybe it holds up, fingers crossed stuff as there is plenty of original spare parts available for not too many €?  :o
I just bought set of headlights in mint condition( yes, xenon headlights) for 20€/pair.
And your fix is not really a rocketscience to pull off :y

Martin

I drive this every day to work and i work overtime each week. I don't have time to do it properly during the week.
I just want a real fast and cheap fix to it.. At the moment it's just held on by the top cap.. And it feels loose and wiggly to the hand.
I thought it would have been just a screw off like all the other cars have.. It's overengineered.. I was thinking about putting an 8ball or something to it but since it requires removing the whole gear lever and replacing it then i'll just let it be.



EDIT:
Okay i searched trough the web and the only way to remove the knob is to destroy it..
I'll probably just pull the leather off and melt a plastic skull or something on top of the metal piece and boom custom gear knob..
Opel just had this poor design to milk money off of it's users and not allow us to customize it.. Typical german engineering.

Never had problems like these on my old mopar.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: JoeRadosavljevich on 29 November 2015, 17:13:39
Why to fabricate some maybe it holds up, fingers crossed stuff as there is plenty of original spare parts available for not too many €?  :o


Martin

Good point.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 30 November 2015, 09:12:13
If the whole gear lever assembly / lever comes off as easily as the Auto transmission ones, then I watched a mechanic mate chisel off the heads of the rivets with a sharpened old screwdriver, and removed the whole lot in about 2 minutes flat. Just then need to detach the linkage.

Don't know how long it will take to melt a skull on or whatever other tasteful modification you were thinking, but there it is. Best of luck.  :)
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: Jsp on 30 November 2015, 09:33:47
If the whole gear lever assembly / lever comes off as easily as the Auto transmission ones, then I watched a mechanic mate chisel off the heads of the rivets with a sharpened old screwdriver, and removed the whole lot in about 2 minutes flat. Just then need to detach the linkage.

Don't know how long it will take to melt a skull on or whatever other tasteful modification you were thinking, but there it is. Best of luck.  :)

It's just the idea that you need to take the whole lever off just to change a knob. While other cars you just twist it off like a bottle cap.
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Post by: sjc on 01 December 2015, 08:16:13
The gear knob just pulls off mate (you need to waggle it as you pull, it's very tight). It's not over-engineered  ;D

New one pushes on but you got ya give it a good thump to get it fully home.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: terry paget on 01 December 2015, 08:43:36
The gear knob just pulls off mate (you need to waggle it as you pull, it's very tight). It's not over-engineered  ;D

New one pushes on but you got ya give it a good thump to get it fully home.
Fascinating. In the exploded parts page published above, top left hand corner, there is a bottle of something, I now presume glue, something like Loctite. I expect that is to attach the knob to the stick. All is explained.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 01 December 2015, 17:05:20
The gear knob just pulls off mate (you need to waggle it as you pull, it's very tight). It's not over-engineered  ;D

New one pushes on but you got ya give it a good thump to get it fully home.
Fascinating. In the exploded parts page published above, top left hand corner, there is a bottle of something, I now presume glue, something like Loctite. I expect that is to attach the knob to the stick. All is explained.

Clearly a bottle of lube, for the more adventurous technician...
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: sjc on 01 December 2015, 17:36:50
The gear knob just pulls off mate (you need to waggle it as you pull, it's very tight). It's not over-engineered  ;D

New one pushes on but you got ya give it a good thump to get it fully home.
Fascinating. In the exploded parts page published above, top left hand corner, there is a bottle of something, I now presume glue, something like Loctite. I expect that is to attach the knob to the stick. All is explained.

I'll verify later, but I think that's thread-lock for the bolts you were having the difficulty with  ;)

BTW, I had used the diagram of the Carlton gearstick here because it is virtually identical to the Omega one and all the parts are shown on one page in EPC whereas the Omega one is split over multiple diagrams.
Title: Re: Gear knob.
Post by: terry paget on 01 December 2015, 18:23:59
The gear knob just pulls off mate (you need to waggle it as you pull, it's very tight). It's not over-engineered  ;D

New one pushes on but you got ya give it a good thump to get it fully home.
Fascinating. In the exploded parts page published above, top left hand corner, there is a bottle of something, I now presume glue, something like Loctite. I expect that is to attach the knob to the stick. All is explained.

I'll verify later, but I think that's thread-lock for the bolts you were having the difficulty with  ;)

BTW, I had used the diagram of the Carlton gearstick here because it is virtually identical to the Omega one and all the parts are shown on one page in EPC whereas the Omega one is split over multiple diagrams.
Thank you. I eagerly await your verification. There certainly was thread lock on the nut strip I dislodged, as can be seen in my pic. I still like my locking fluid theory. I imagine your pic came from a manual with some text, or labelling.