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Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: ronnyd on 13 December 2015, 17:25:59
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Having trouble removing the unit, keys seem to be slotted fully home but won,t budge. Just wondering if my shunt in the rear has distorted something. Any advice fellers please?
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I hope yours isn't as bad as mine, I've given up trying to remove it - not had the wireless on for years!
Used the correct tools, it comes half-way out and no further and now will not go fully back, leaning about an inch sticking out.
Do please let me know if you solve your problem.....
Ron.
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Thanks Ron, mine hasn,t moved a fraction yet >:( .Will keep you posted as to how i get on.
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Decent double din tools. Eject 4-disc magazine, insert tools, ease pass. side tool to left with hand/fingers in magazine slot, HU should move slightly on L/H side. Repeat the procedure on driver`s side. HU should then come out. I`ve used this procedure on around a dozen HU`s including the NCDCXXXX and never had one break off the fascia or stick in the cage
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Trouble is Rob the CD mag is jammed in as well so can,t go that route. :(
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Double check that the Din tools are engaged, ease both outwards and gently pull on HU whilst moving tools side to side
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Double check that the Din tools are engaged, ease both outwards and gently pull on HU whilst moving tools side to side
Tried again this afternoon, still no joy. Good quality keys snapped right home, facia of unit came off but rest solid as a rock :( Had a word with the guy who works at the factors i bought the new stuff from (he is fitting it for me) and he has had advice/info that the switches on either side of unit (hazards etc) need removing first. Surely this is billhooks. Whats your take on that chaps? :-\
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Double check that the Din tools are engaged, ease both outwards and gently pull on HU whilst moving tools side to side
Tried again this afternoon, still no joy. Good quality keys snapped right home, facia of unit came off but rest solid as a rock :( Had a word with the guy who works at the factors i bought the new stuff from (he is fitting it for me) and he has had advice/info that the switches on either side of unit (hazards etc) need removing first. Surely this is billhooks. Whats your take on that chaps? :-\
Complete and utter billyboliks.
And you're letting him fit a new one :o
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Double check that the Din tools are engaged, ease both outwards and gently pull on HU whilst moving tools side to side
Tried again this afternoon, still no joy. Good quality keys snapped right home, facia of unit came off but rest solid as a rock :( Had a word with the guy who works at the factors i bought the new stuff from (he is fitting it for me) and he has had advice/info that the switches on either side of unit (hazards etc) need removing first. Surely this is billhooks. Whats your take on that chaps? :-\
Complete and utter billyboliks.
And you're letting him fit a new one :o
Not any more. ;D
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Decent double din tools. Eject 4-disc magazine, insert tools, ease pass. side tool to left with hand/fingers in magazine slot, HU should move slightly on L/H side. Repeat the procedure on driver`s side. HU should then come out. I`ve used this procedure on around a dozen HU`s including the NCDCXXXX and never had one break off the fascia or stick in the cage
Got a link Rob please for good ones and not cheap junk
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Decent double din tools. Eject 4-disc magazine, insert tools, ease pass. side tool to left with hand/fingers in magazine slot, HU should move slightly on L/H side. Repeat the procedure on driver`s side. HU should then come out. I`ve used this procedure on around a dozen HU`s including the NCDCXXXX and never had one break off the fascia or stick in the cage
Got a link Rob please for good ones and not cheap junk
Mine cost 8quid from my local motor factors so not ebay shite.
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Used cheap ones to pull mine and a few others out, but you need to carefully modify them as below to get a good purchase ;)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/removalkey_zpsde7eb502.jpg)
HTH :y
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Double check that the Din tools are engaged, ease both outwards and gently pull on HU whilst moving tools side to side
Tried again this afternoon, still no joy. Good quality keys snapped right home, facia of unit came off but rest solid as a rock :( Had a word with the guy who works at the factors i bought the new stuff from (he is fitting it for me) and he has had advice/info that the switches on either side of unit (hazards etc) need removing first. Surely this is billhooks. Whats your take on that chaps? :-\
Have a look to see if you still have the 4 securing lugs which attach the face to the unit - 2 at the top and 2 in the middle and the 2 small screws at the bottom. Without these the unit will never sit flush to the dashboard. Face removal on the CCR2006 requires the two single DIN sections to be spilt to release the lugs.
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I have had similar problems. I removed the switches or dummies at the sides of the head unit, then prised the whole cage out with thin screwdrivers. Once out I was able to separate cage from head unit.
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Used cheap ones to pull mine and a few others out, but you need to carefully modify them as below to get a good purchase ;)
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee386/dbugit/removalkey_zpsde7eb502.jpg)
HTH :y
Amazing how much trouble these radios can give you guys. We, as professional radio fitters / repairers have no problems at all, but it involves a few minutes with a needle file. Once you have bought your removal tools, you need to file a flat lip like this picture shows, and this gives the radio something to latch against, and it will then pull out (it is still tight though) If you do not file this sharp edge, and you try with a set of tools to remove it, the smooth edges of the tools will never engage with the sides of the radio and you may well end up pulling the fascia off with the resultant sideways force. Never failed to pull a radio out FIRST ATTEMPT with tools shaped this way
:y
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As others have said, you need to modify standard tools, they are all shite.
Halfords/Autoleads ones are possibly too soft, even with modification.
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Dave DND, as I said earlier, my unit is neither in nor out; I cannot release it all the way and cannot return it fully either - something behind it is stopping it.
Do you think the tools you suggest would help (I've used the "U" shaped 2 prongs per side so far), and if so, how much for you to provide a set and send to me, if you were prepared to do so?
Ron.
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Sorry Dave, can.t seem to see pics on my antique laptop :D. Any clue which bit to file?
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Ditto dbug, no effin pics. :'(
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Pics ok on my gear - must be your "
antique crappy laptop"
PM your email addy and I'll email you a copy of pic - its a std jpeg.
HTH
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Dave DND, as I said earlier, my unit is neither in nor out; I cannot release it all the way and cannot return it fully either - something behind it is stopping it.
Do you think the tools you suggest would help (I've used the "U" shaped 2 prongs per side so far), and if so, how much for you to provide a set and send to me, if you were prepared to do so?
Ron.
If its sticking partway out, then its just a case of wiggling it about as it unlikely to be anything more than being a tight fit in the cage.
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Thanks Dave.
I've tried the Arkwright "jer-jer-jiggling it about a bit", but it comes out about half-way and that's it; nor will it go fully back now.
Is the cage supposed to come out with it too, because it does!
The reason for wanting to take it out in the first place was to find the serial number, with a view to getting the code off-line, but I think it was your good self who disabused me of that idea some time back, saying that they don't co-relate? I've not had it functional for years, as I don't have the code and it's only because of this thread that I started to consider trying again.....
Ron.
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Thanks Dave.
I've tried the Arkwright "jer-jer-jiggling it about a bit", but it comes out about half-way and that's it; nor will it go fully back now.
Is the cage supposed to come out with it too, because it does!
No it isn't, and that is your problem; the locating lugs of the cage and the tight fit of the radio in it have jammed everything up. It might be worth working a thin, blunt knife down the sides of both the radio and the cage to free it up
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Wallpaper scraper is what we use here instead of a thin knife in those instances :y
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Pics ok on my gear - must be your "antique crappy laptop"
PM your email addy and I'll email you a copy of pic - its a std jpeg.
HTH
As promised copy of pic emailed to your email addy Ronnyd :y
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I got mine out a few years ago using unmodified/crappy removal tools by putting my fingers in the cassette slot and pulling.
Another example of the kind of crap design (especially espoused by the designers of interior trim) that makes it impossible to see how the clips work until you have broken one to remove it >:(
I fitted a different head unit so I had to remove the CCR2006 cage. That was almost as bad to remove - it has perforations punched all over with sharp edges. The sharp edges bite into the plastic dash surround and I had to bend the top and bottom of the cage to make it shrink a little.
I think the hole in the plastic dashboard surround is slightly too small which makes the cage an interference fit and hence makes the CCR2006 a very tight fit.
If I ever refit the CCR2006 I will need to straighten out the cage first and then find a way of reattaching the CCR2006 facia which is now only attached on one side :(
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I got mine out a few years ago using unmodified/crappy removal tools by putting my fingers in the cassette slot and pulling.
Another example of the kind of crap design (especially espoused by the designers of interior trim) that makes it impossible to see how the clips work until you have broken one to remove it >:(
I fitted a different head unit so I had to remove the CCR2006 cage. That was almost as bad to remove - it has perforations punched all over with sharp edges. The sharp edges bite into the plastic dash surround and I had to bend the top and bottom of the cage to make it shrink a little.
I think the hole in the plastic dashboard surround is slightly too small which makes the cage an interference fit and hence makes the CCR2006 a very tight fit.
It's not just the CCR2006. I had to remove a CDR2005 in my corsa and had all the same problems mentioned here. Removed the glovebox, vent trim etc and prised it out using a variety of tools having pulled the face off it by accident. Fortunately just a clip fitment on that model. Having got it out then tried to fit a replacement CCR2006, the problem became clear. The cage had been bent in the past and the release tab plates on the head unit were binding on the sides of the cage. A few gentle blows with a small faced hammer up and down the sides of the cage and it was sliding in and out with no problem at all.
If I ever refit the CCR2006 I will need to straighten out the cage first and then find a way of reattaching the CCR2006 facia which is now only attached on one side :(
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Gentlemen, thank you. I'm not sure if your comments give me encouragement and inspiration, or an urgent need to visit marks and Spencers!
However, brave (foolish?) as I am, if the motivation grabs me tomorrow.......
Ron.
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Pics ok on my gear - must be your "antique crappy laptop"
PM your email addy and I'll email you a copy of pic - its a std jpeg.
HTH
As promised copy of pic emailed to your email addy Ronnyd :y
Thanks dbug and have replied. :y
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Finally got the bugger out, took two of us, me and a retired radio fitter who is local to me. Keys were no good, had to use electrical screwdrivers. Once we had released the latches it came out quite well. New radio in and works well. :y