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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Andy H on 20 December 2015, 14:57:15
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Not a good time for the current machine to rip a concrete weight off and drop it on the floor.
It is a Hotpoint Ultima 1400. It has been a good machine but it needs a new plastic tub (and probably a new lump of concrete) and they cost about £170 from what I can see on the internet.
Went and picked up some presents from Argos earlier and they have basic white Hotpoint machines at around £210.
With one little one in washable nappies (and another due in February) it gets used almost daily and the 1400 spin makes a big difference to getting stuff dry afterwards.
Any comments? It is difficult to get excited about household appliances. The £1200 Samsungs look quite nice but I can't believe they are that much more effective and whatever we buy is going to be stuffed until the door barely shuts despite anything I dare say about it being overloaded >:(
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The cheapo hotpoints will let you down, mines broken 3 times within first year with average use so probably is worth spending a bit more when you rely on one :y
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Our machine broke down last week. So went out and bought new samsung £320 lighter now but at least my clothes are nice and clean now :y
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and whatever we buy is going to be stuffed until the door barely shuts despite anything I dare say about it being overloaded >:(
Different machines have different size drums obviously for a bigger load. Our last washer came from Costco, a Maytage 'Intellisense' 10kg 1400rpm spin ... supposedly weighs the contents before it washes to save energy etc IIRC it was £400 something
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We've had a Bosch washer now for over 12 years and.......touch wood........its never missed a beat. It is getting a little noisy now and does a good foxtrot across the kitchen on a fast spin ;D ;D ;D but I cannot fault it really. So much so that I went for a Bosch dishwasher to
replace SWMBO stop SWMBO moaning :D and that is good too.
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Cheap washing machines are built down to a price and most up to the mid range in cost terms aren't repairable these days. The drum is plastic welded together so you can't get it apart to remove caught garments or change the bearings.
If it's getting heavy use washing nappies, it probably pays to stump up for something decent IMO.
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I bought this one about 15 years ago from Joe Grahams in Luton. He started as a washing machine repair man and got an excellent reputation for repairs and selling refurbed machines from a corner shop in Dallow Road. About 20 years ago the business moved into an industrial unit and expanded the sales side. I bought this one after asking which machine they had to do least repairs to. I think I paid about £400 then.
After 6 or 7 years the drum bearings became noisy so I replaced them and it has worked apparently OK ever since. The tub is plastic but it can be split to allow the drum to be removed
From the comments above it looks as though I need to pay about £400 to get something that might last :-\
PS - having moved to Cornwall it isn't convenient to go back to Luton for a new one..........
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If it 'ripped' the concrete block out of it mountings then it surely must have not been balanced properly? It takes a lot of vibration to shake one of those buggers loose.
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If it 'ripped' the concrete block out of it mountings then it surely must have not been balanced properly? It takes a lot of vibration to shake one of those buggers loose.
Its what happens when the bearings start going
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As for your new one, I reckon it's a bit of pot luck, along with usage of course. I've got a hotpoint in the garage but when we moved in here there was a beko one already plumbed in. It's been faultless for about 15 months now, 2 or 3 washes every day :-\
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If it 'ripped' the concrete block out of it mountings then it surely must have not been balanced properly? It takes a lot of vibration to shake one of those buggers loose.
Two years ago it got noisy again so I bought some new bearings. When I went to fit them I found that the bolts holding the concrete blocks had worked loose and tightening them seemed to fix the problem. After that we moved it to the garage/workshop so that I could rip the kitchen out and build an extension.
What I wasn't aware of is that the bolts must have worked loose again - the holes in the concrete block are now twice as large as they should be and the plastic lugs on the drum wore away to almost nothing (before finally snapping) :(
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Buy one of the cheaper Bosch models - they seem to have the same basic innards as the much more expensive models.
I've found they really get your clothes clean and ours has been on almost every day for 10 years. It did need new brushes and it did need a new display but the important stuff is all fine still.
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Typical oof faffing.
go to Argos buy what you can afford, take out the insurance, if goes wrong, ring up they come and either replace machine with new one, or repair, job sorted.
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Typical oof faffing.
go to Argos buy what you can afford, take out the insurance, if goes wrong, ring up they come and either replace machine with new one, or repair, job sorted.
I want a washing machine that works as well as my old one used to. What I can afford isn't the issue.
What I can't afford is to be spending time on the phone trying to get someone to come and solve a problem that could have been avoided by buying a properly engineered machine in the first place.
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Have a look at this, Andy:
http://hubys.co.uk/news-information/2/who-really-makes-your-washing-machine
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Have a look at this, Andy:
http://hubys.co.uk/news-information/2/who-really-makes-your-washing-machine
Thanks Steve :y
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ive just replaced the self cleaning pump on our ariston 'margherita' machine, which had started tripping the circuit breaker and finally stopped. incredibly it is about 20 years old and that pump is the only part that has ever needed attention, touch wood. therefore i highly recommend them (ariston/hotpoint/indesit).
probably though it was just made after the time when they were unable to make reliable washing machines and before the more recent time where they can now make machines that fail the day after the warranty expires.
agree about the spin speed ours is only 1200 but the faster the better for drying
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Our Miele has just gone wrong, a month outside its 10 year warranty.
As they want about £200 to sort, ill have a play myself, suspect the brushes.
Always sommat.....
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Had a Hoover 1200 for 25 years then it bit the dust.
Got a new Hoover 1400 that seems to be going well, barely run in though as it's only five years old ;D
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Worth reading this before getting too hung up on spin speed:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2632-buying-help-the-great-spin-speed-debate (http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2632-buying-help-the-great-spin-speed-debate)
In fact, there's a lot of useful information on that site, IMHO and they are a good source of spare parts.
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So a few notes from me, beware the cheaper Bosch units, they are not made by Bosch and can be pretty hit n miss.
The general consensus on build/reliability is that you need to be hitting the £400 to get something reasonable, below this it gets hit n miss for a family washer (possibly fine if you don't have any kids!).
Miele is still considered the best but will cost and can be got with a ten year warranty.
Middle of the road is the better Bosch machines and the likes of AEG (they have truly improved in recent years and most have a 5 year warranty)
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If it were my money, I'd be looking at the LG machines. A bit more monies than the usual lot, but the Direct Drive system is marvellous. Almost silent in operation and has a 10yr warranty on the motor itself. ANNNNND, if you are 'that sort of person' you can control it with your Android Phone.... Just 'cuz.
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Our Miele has just gone wrong, a month outside its 10 year warranty.
As they want about £200 to sort, ill have a play myself, suspect the brushes.
Always sommat.....
I was right.....just 8 minutes to remove the brush holder, all done from the front, very nice engineering.
Local appliance repairer, while they dont touch Miele, did have brushes in stock.
£15 job done.
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Our Miele has just gone wrong, a month outside its 10 year warranty.
As they want about £200 to sort, ill have a play myself, suspect the brushes.
Always sommat.....
I was right.....just 8 minutes to remove the brush holder, all done from the front, very nice engineering.
Local appliance repairer, while they dont touch Miele, did have brushes in stock.
£15 job done.
Ohh, and another set for £5.99 about to be ordered for next time....
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Get some genuine ones as brush compound is a real black art..... :y
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So a few notes from me, beware the cheaper Bosch units, they are not made by Bosch and can be pretty hit n miss.
The general consensus on build/reliability is that you need to be hitting the £400 to get something reasonable, below this it gets hit n miss for a family washer (possibly fine if you don't have any kids!).
Miele is still considered the best but will cost and can be got with a ten year warranty.
Middle of the road is the better Bosch machines and the likes of AEG (they have truly improved in recent years and most have a 5 year warranty)
We seem to have settled on a £500 Bosch (hopefully this puts us in the right ballpark). If this had been a planned purchase we would have done more research but the dirty nappies are stacking up..........
I have found a local(ish) supplier with one in stock so I think that is what I will be picking up in my lunch hour tomorrow.
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I love an OOF White Goods thread! 8)
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Get some genuine ones as brush compound is a real black art..... :y
I made some motor brushes from work fit as a temp fix on a Hoover washer motor. It worked, but the brushes lasted weeks. A new set of OE brushes were fitted which then lasted for years.
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and whatever we buy is going to be stuffed until the door barely shuts despite anything I dare say about it being overloaded >:(
Don't overload it you won't get the best out of your wash and in the event of machine failure during warranty it will become void. And yes they will know you have overloaded it.
The old Hotpoints used to be ok, but today if you get five years out of them your doing well.
In general Bosch are a decent machine.
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Worth reading this before getting too hung up on spin speed:
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2632-buying-help-the-great-spin-speed-debate (http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2632-buying-help-the-great-spin-speed-debate)
In fact, there's a lot of useful information on that site, IMHO and they are a good source of spare parts.
i think there's an order of magnitude error on that site. Their percentage graph shows a 2000rpm v 1000rpm extracts 57% of a litre v 35% of a litre. so that's 220ml difference not 22ml.
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Thanks to my favourite toy, I managed to get my old Hotpoint 1400 top-of-the-range heap into the wheelie bin when I decided the repairs it needed were not worthwhile.
Stupidly bought another Hotpoint though.
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So a few notes from me, beware the cheaper Bosch units, they are not made by Bosch and can be pretty hit n miss.
The general consensus on build/reliability is that you need to be hitting the £400 to get something reasonable, below this it gets hit n miss for a family washer (possibly fine if you don't have any kids!).
Miele is still considered the best but will cost and can be got with a ten year warranty.
Middle of the road is the better Bosch machines and the likes of AEG (they have truly improved in recent years and most have a 5 year warranty)
Had a new Bosch tumble dryer a few years back. Kept tripping overloads all the time, had service engineer on speed dial. Dumped it and had my daughters old Electra when she updated her kitchen. It,s now over 20years old now and still going strong. :y
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I've got an all-singing, all-dancing tumble dryer, it weighs the load and, through magic, knows when it is dry. It knows 'iron dry'and 'cupboard dry'. Unfortunately it doesn't know f*****g really dry, which is how I like mine, so I have to give it another ten minutes when it's finished.
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Thanks to my favourite toy, I managed to get my old Hotpoint 1400 top-of-the-range heap into the wheelie bin when I decided the repairs it needed were not worthwhile.
Stupidly bought another Hotpoint though.
Oops ::)
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
I have the solution. Buy two cheaper ones and put one in the garage. The first one may last ages, you never know.
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
I have the solution. Buy two cheaper ones and put one in the garage. The first one may last ages, you never know.
Quote from: Marks DTM Calib on 21 December 2015, 09:34:27
So a few notes from me, beware the cheaper Bosch units, they are not made by Bosch and can be pretty hit n miss.
The general consensus on build/reliability is that you need to be hitting the £400 to get something reasonable, below this it gets hit n miss for a family washer (possibly fine if you don't have any kids!).
Miele is still considered the best but will cost and can be got with a ten year warranty.
Middle of the road is the better Bosch machines and the likes of AEG (they have truly improved in recent years and most have a 5 year warranty)
We seem to have settled on a £500 Bosch (hopefully this puts us in the right ballpark). If this had been a planned purchase we would have done more research but the dirty nappies are stacking up..........
I have found a local(ish) supplier with one in stock so I think that is what I will be picking up in my lunch hour tomorrow.
I picked it up yesterday - spent this morning installing plumbing in the extension and set it to work this afternoon.
Gave it a true initiation - two buckets of 3 day old fermenting nappies ;D
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
I have the solution... Just go out and buy one that's in budget without consulting the internet. It'll be fine... ::)
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
I have the solution... Just go out and buy one that's in budget without consulting the internet. It'll be fine... ::)
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Or that.....
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At B_Q indesit 7kg £158 available from 26/12.
We had a 15 year old Hotpoint which lasted well. We were warned (here and mumsnet) that the the current crop of sub £200 Hotpoints wouldn't cope with the usage that awaits the replacement. Hotpoint are now made/owned by Indesit. What could possibly go wrong.......
I have the solution... Just go out and buy one that's in budget without consulting the internet. It'll be fine... ::)
:y
Or that.....
I still love an OOF White Goods thread though! ;D
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I picked it up yesterday - spent this morning installing plumbing in the extension and set it to work this afternoon.
Gave it a true initiation - two buckets of 3 day old fermenting nappies ;D
and you remembered to remove the transportation screws
....... unlike others :-[ :D :D
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I picked it up yesterday - spent this morning installing plumbing in the extension and set it to work this afternoon.
Gave it a true initiation - two buckets of 3 day old fermenting nappies ;D
and you remembered to remove the transportation screws
....... unlike others :-[ :D :D
Yes :y and ran the 90 degree wash that Bosch list as part of the installation routine.
First impressions are good - the new machine is very quiet and the stinking nappies came out clean and apparently dry to the touch. (the old machine was very noisy and we had taken to rinsing washing twice to try to get rid of the smell of washing powder)
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You have to do a wash with the machine on it's side? :-\
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You have to do a wash with the machine on it's side? :-\
Those crazy Germans........