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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 22 December 2015, 15:53:46
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Can these be moved by a Non BT installer.
In my case this would mean repositioning the incoming BT cable that hangs from the telegraph pole to the current locaction by moving the achoring/spring tension mount and actully relocating it to annother room (on the outside ) on the front (and closer to the telegraph pole)
Am wanting to do this to bring my modem into the living room and tidy all the wiring up, also in the process maybe add an extension socket, the rest of the house is covered with the use of DECT phones so no issue there.
The other question is , if I upgrade to Fibre then will the new fibre box need to be fitted next to the phone socket, or can it be installed in a different location. ( I have never looked into what is involved in a Fibre so am a complete numty regards this) ::) If it has to be fitted next to/instead of the master socket then would the installer move the socket to suit.
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No, it belongs to BT.
If its a pig tail at your end, unwind that first before you unbolt the bracket Unwind from the outside towards the bracket, as that will give you some idea how much play in the dropwire cable you need when you relocate it closer to the Pole. You normally need more slack than you think you do. :y
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Can these be moved by a Non BT installer.
Legally, no, you can't touch anything from the master socket to outside (besides the removable bottom half of the faceplate if it's a newer split-face master socket)
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Any interference before a line is terminated (test socket in NTE5, or all sockets if not NTE5) is a criminal offence until the Telecommunications Act.
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Any interference before a line is terminated (test socket in NTE5, or all sockets if not NTE5) is a criminal offence until the Telecommunications Act.
Until the telecommunications act does what....exactly? ;D
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Any interference before a line is terminated (test socket in NTE5, or all sockets if not NTE5) is a criminal offence until the Telecommunications Act.
Until the telecommunications act does what....exactly? ;D
Stops people buggering up their lines ;D
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If it has to be fitted next to/instead of the master socket then would the installer move the socket to suit.
My master socket was in a cupboard so when BT installed infinity my signal was crap. After monitoring it BT agreed the signal was crap and agreed to move it. I ran new cable, at my expense, to where I wanted it (sitting room) but did not wire anything up. The BT engineer turned up, I explained what I'd done, he wired up the master socket and then connected the other end of my cable to the main line in. :y
Easy job for him as I'd done all the routing of cable to keep it out of sight. He did say that my cable may not be up to BT spec, until I showed him the packaging with BT on it. He was happy when he realised that I'd done it to help him.
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YZ - having once been a BT phone engr, I would have appreciated that, and would have connected it if the cable was decent. Even 25yrs ago, the quality of cheap cable was shocking. I dread to think how bad it can get now that egay has been invented.
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Cheers every one, it's confirmed what I was thinking. :y
Probably worth fitting the split-face master socket (I believe they are plug in once the screws are removed)
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Cheers every one, it's confirmed what I was thinking. :y
Probably worth fitting the split-face master socket (I believe they are plug in once the screws are removed)
Known as an interstitial VDSL NTE5
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Cheers every one, it's confirmed what I was thinking. :y
Probably worth fitting the split-face master socket (I believe they are plug in once the screws are removed)
Known as an interstitial VDSL NTE5
I have a cream you can have for that ;D
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Can these be moved by a Non BT installer.
In my case this would mean repositioning the incoming BT cable that hangs from the telegraph pole to the current locaction by moving the achoring/spring tension mount and actully relocating it to annother room (on the outside ) on the front (and closer to the telegraph pole)
Am wanting to do this to bring my modem into the living room and tidy all the wiring up, also in the process maybe add an extension socket, the rest of the house is covered with the use of DECT phones so no issue there.
The other question is , if I upgrade to Fibre then will the new fibre box need to be fitted next to the phone socket, or can it be installed in a different location. ( I have never looked into what is involved in a Fibre so am a complete numty regards this) ::) If it has to be fitted next to/instead of the master socket then would the installer move the socket to suit.
There are two acronyms to look out for with fibre upgrades FTTP (fibre to the premises) and FTTC (fibre to the cabinet). I may be wrong (probably am) but I don't think BT are giving home owners FTTP as it is much easier for them to install fibre to the roadside cabinets and not take fibre into individual houses.
The upgrade happens in the cabinet so your master socket remains the same (or very similar).
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Can these be moved by a Non BT installer.
In my case this would mean repositioning the incoming BT cable that hangs from the telegraph pole to the current locaction by moving the achoring/spring tension mount and actully relocating it to annother room (on the outside ) on the front (and closer to the telegraph pole)
Am wanting to do this to bring my modem into the living room and tidy all the wiring up, also in the process maybe add an extension socket, the rest of the house is covered with the use of DECT phones so no issue there.
The other question is , if I upgrade to Fibre then will the new fibre box need to be fitted next to the phone socket, or can it be installed in a different location. ( I have never looked into what is involved in a Fibre so am a complete numty regards this) ::) If it has to be fitted next to/instead of the master socket then would the installer move the socket to suit.
There are two acronyms to look out for with fibre upgrades FTTP (fibre to the premises) and FTTC (fibre to the cabinet). I may be wrong (probably am) but I don't think BT are giving home owners FTTP as it is much easier for them to install fibre to the roadside cabinets and not take fibre into individual houses.
The upgrade happens in the cabinet so your master socket remains the same (or very similar).
FTTP is available for virtually all FTTC areas, but few ISPs offer it. The Openreach product is FTTP On Demand.
The wholesale price to your ISP is "quite expensive", both activation and monthly.
If G.fast likely to come (assuming current extended trials are favourable) to all FTTC areas in the next 10yrs, and speeds predicted to ramp to 500Mbps over time, that is believed to be the future direction, rather than FTTP.
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Can these be moved by a Non BT installer.
In my case this would mean repositioning the incoming BT cable that hangs from the telegraph pole to the current locaction by moving the achoring/spring tension mount and actully relocating it to annother room (on the outside ) on the front (and closer to the telegraph pole)
Am wanting to do this to bring my modem into the living room and tidy all the wiring up, also in the process maybe add an extension socket, the rest of the house is covered with the use of DECT phones so no issue there.
The other question is , if I upgrade to Fibre then will the new fibre box need to be fitted next to the phone socket, or can it be installed in a different location. ( I have never looked into what is involved in a Fibre so am a complete numty regards this) ::) If it has to be fitted next to/instead of the master socket then would the installer move the socket to suit.
There are two acronyms to look out for with fibre upgrades FTTP (fibre to the premises) and FTTC (fibre to the cabinet). I may be wrong (probably am) but I don't think BT are giving home owners FTTP as it is much easier for them to install fibre to the roadside cabinets and not take fibre into individual houses.
The upgrade happens in the cabinet so your master socket remains the same (or very similar).
FTTP is available for virtually all FTTC areas, but few ISPs offer it. The Openreach product is FTTP On Demand.
The wholesale price to your ISP is "quite expensive", both activation and monthly.
If G.fast likely to come (assuming current extended trials are favourable) to all FTTC areas in the next 10yrs, and speeds predicted to ramp to 500Mbps over time, that is believed to be the future direction, rather than FTTP.
So does that mean the old master sockets stays? even with G.fast?
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Its still being trialled, but most likely, yes.
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I assume, if it ever rolls out, g.fast will just be a further upgrade to already FTTC serviced areas?
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I assume, if it ever rolls out, g.fast will just be a further upgrade to already FTTC serviced areas?
"Yes". But I would imagine that its likely that newly installed cabinets, once the trials are complete, will go straight to the new technology.