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Title: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 18:30:16
tried starting the 2.6 today after about 7 months , battery was total dead . fitted new battery but will not start, seems to be that there is no spark as there is lots of fuel coming though, it always started right away before being left , anybody any ideas ,    thankyou
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 18:38:19
done the pedal trick and its saying  6364
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: RobG on 22 December 2015, 18:41:36
done the pedal trick and its saying 6364
Do it again
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 18:43:45
in what way , does that not sound right
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: powerslinky on 22 December 2015, 18:46:53
done the pedal trick and its saying  6364

Pretty sure all 2.6 /3.2 codes begin with a 0     may be worth having a double check on the pedal trick code readout  :-\

0335 would be a prime suspect here IMO
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 18:48:57
thanks , would the knock sensor cause it not to start
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 18:50:14
its hard to know what 0 is from flashes
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: powerslinky on 22 December 2015, 18:56:40
its hard to know what 0 is from flashes

10 flashes = 0     have a look at Gixers video in the maintenance guide
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: amba on 22 December 2015, 19:05:39
Unless you have put a clean fill of fuel into the tank I doudt if 7 month old will be helping the cause .

Worth rigging up a clean fuel feed from a metal jerry can and see if that produces better results.

A ggod start requires decent plugs /good charge in battery and a clean source of fresh fuel
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 December 2015, 19:31:23
Is the EML just constantly flashing when you turn the key?
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 19:34:24
the  orange light with the car and a spanner is flashing the minuet you turn the ignition on 
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 December 2015, 19:35:58
the  orange light with the car and a spanner is flashing the minuet you turn the ignition on
Classic immobiliser issue... basically the chip in the key is either missing or wrong...
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 19:41:54
so the immobilizer only cuts the spark and not the fuel
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: powerslinky on 22 December 2015, 20:06:48
Try this  . . . sit in the car  . . turn ignition on . . push a  key fob button to do a central  locking reset ( doors lock & then open again)

Take key out  . .  get out of the car & lock using the fob  . . . then unlock using the fob  . . .get in & try to start the car .

Might seem strange  . . .but it has fixed a few with this problem   . . .mine included  ;)

Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 21:31:48
thanks , tried that still no joy and light still flashing , what next 
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: 05omegav6 on 22 December 2015, 22:17:01
thanks , tried that still no joy and light still flashing , what next 
the  orange light with the car and a spanner is flashing the minuet you turn the ignition on
Classic immobiliser issue... basically the chip in the key is either missing or wrong...
::)
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 22 December 2015, 22:40:57
And were in the key is the chip situated
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: VXL V6 on 22 December 2015, 22:44:44
Wiggle the connector on the immobiliser module under the steering wheel cowling.
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Andy B on 22 December 2015, 23:08:50
And were in the key is the chip situated

Remove the fob bit ie the bit with the buttons & the chip should live in the side of the horseshoe blade bit .... little rectangle-ish bit of plastic

same as this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-OMEGA-TRANSPONDER-KEY-COMPLETE-WITH-CHIP/161341904353?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3D14351e14300941678e77703310197f68%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D191219684422
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: powerslinky on 23 December 2015, 05:07:35
thanks , tried that still no joy and light still flashing , what next 
the  orange light with the car and a spanner is flashing the minuet you turn the ignition on
Classic immobiliser issue... basically the chip in the key is either missing or wrong...
::)

Agreed Al . . . but surely only if OP has taken apart or messed with the key since car was last started :-\

Also guessing there is only one key available here :-\
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 23 December 2015, 06:17:25
yes just one key
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: zirk on 23 December 2015, 08:30:43
When the Dash Light is flashing, is it flashing in a neat sequence on off, or does it sometimes flash randomly or miss a beat hear and there?
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 23 December 2015, 08:52:52
no chip in the key ??? .  do i need the ecu as well as a new key and chip
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2015, 08:56:41
no chip in the key ??? .  do i need the ecu as well as a new key and chip
Really?

Do you have the car pass?
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 23 December 2015, 09:05:05
think so
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 09:53:49
So that little black thing is missing... So Since you last ran the car,The key must of been opened up/Dropped..

Your gonna need to get one and then get on a Tec II  :y

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/transponder.jpg)
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 09:54:50
So that little black thing is missing..(Transponder). So Since you last ran the car,The key must of been opened up/Dropped..

Your gonna need to get on a TecII  :y

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70807181/transponder.jpg)
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 23 December 2015, 11:17:07
can a used chip be reprogramed
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: tunnie on 23 December 2015, 11:21:14
Yes, if you have the car pass  :y
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 11:24:15
Yes, if you have the car pass  :y
Not if its been on a naff code reader
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 11:35:27
The way i see it is.. The car the key & transponder and a tec II all need to get together here.. So no need to be going in with a half chance transponder.. Get New  :y
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 11:54:12
So do you remember the key at some point coming apart ?

If No... Could the transponder have been put in the steering column somewhere and now its fallen off ?
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: zirk on 23 December 2015, 12:23:14
So do you remember the key at some point coming apart ?

If No... Could the transponder have been put in the steering column somewhere and now its fallen off ?
Was kinda thinking along them lines also, but its a bit 20 questions isn't it.
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2015, 12:34:26
So do you remember the key at some point coming apart ?

If No... Could the transponder have been put in the steering column somewhere and now its fallen off ?
Was kinda thinking along them lines also, but its a bit 20 questions isn't it.
Blindfolded charades more like ::)
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: zirk on 23 December 2015, 13:04:09
So do you remember the key at some point coming apart ?

If No... Could the transponder have been put in the steering column somewhere and now its fallen off ?
Was kinda thinking along them lines also, but its a bit 20 questions isn't it.
Blindfolded charades more like ::)
well it is Christmas. ;D
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: 05omegav6 on 23 December 2015, 14:31:01
 ;D

Buy this...
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161341904353?_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=20140122125356&meid=14351e14300941678e77703310197f68&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=191219684422&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_mwBanner=1
And take it and the car pass to either a decent locksmith or Vauxhall.
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 23 December 2015, 22:26:43
sorted,, locksmith came out fitted new chip and reprogrammed , took 7 minutes .  £132 inc vat  :o
the chip was lost when the battery was replaced , totally unaware there was one there
 thank you for your help  and merry Christmas
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Andy B on 23 December 2015, 22:33:06
sorted,, locksmith came out fitted new chip and reprogrammed , took 7 minutes .  £132 inc vat  :o
the chip was lost when the battery was replaced , totally unaware there was one there
 thank you for your help  and merry Christmas

Christ! I know he came to you, but you could have almost bought the whole key & had it coded from Vauxhal for that kind of money!
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Steve B on 23 December 2015, 22:38:48
sorted,, locksmith came out fitted new chip and reprogrammed , took 7 minutes .  £132 inc vat  :o
the chip was lost when the battery was replaced , totally unaware there was one there
 thank you for your help  and merry Christmas
:-X :-X :-X Did he say "Happy Xmas when you were saying goodbye"
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: Nick W on 23 December 2015, 22:45:30
sorted,, locksmith came out fitted new chip and reprogrammed , took 7 minutes .  £132 inc vat  :o
the chip was lost when the battery was replaced , totally unaware there was one there
 thank you for your help  and merry Christmas

Christ! I know he came to you, but you could have almost bought the whole key & had it coded from Vauxhall for that kind of money!


But that would have been plus the cost of having the car recovered to them, and getting it back sometime in the new year.


Although £132 does seem a bit steep.
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: aaronjb on 24 December 2015, 10:30:34
Cheaper than Timpsons wanted for just a key last time I asked - they were more expensive than the main dealer..
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: robson on 24 December 2015, 19:06:44
Get a spare key. :y
Title: Re: 2.6 non starter
Post by: swordfish on 24 December 2015, 19:13:08
yes , thanks pal and all the best  :y :y