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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: jimjimanta on 03 January 2016, 22:51:28

Title: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 03 January 2016, 22:51:28
I have a big problem.
Cuts bushings the car.
every 4-5 months a couple wants  !!!!!!!
We are talking about something like these:
http://www.antallaktikaonline.gr/swag/2135760

I changed 5-6  couples and a couple of Opel.

I am desperate ...
what could be wrong ???
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: baggers on 03 January 2016, 22:59:50
Well, could be one of many things if your going through them that quick.  When you have replaced them are they being replaced correctly?
Did it only start after the first replacement?, are you banging up and down kirbs all the time?
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: VXL V6 on 03 January 2016, 23:05:19
Are you torqueing the bolts up for that bush with the car on the ground?
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 03 January 2016, 23:08:54
Are you torqueing the bolts up for that bush with the car on the ground?
yes .
the last time after she cut of Opel, and I decided to change myself.
in order to exclude the possibility to do something wrong the engineer.


Well, could be one of many things if your going through them that quick.  When you have replaced them are they being replaced correctly?
Did it only start after the first replacement?, are you banging up and down kirbs all the time?
I do not understand exactly what thou tell me.

Your others  have the same problem;
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 03 January 2016, 23:49:40
They have to be fitted in a very particular way. If you don't align them correctly and don't tighten the bolts correctly then they will fail very quickly indeed.

Best thing would be to replace them with Powerflex poly bushes... It is impossible to fit these wrongly.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: tidla on 04 January 2016, 10:10:55
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Powerflex-Bush-Poly-Vauxhall-Opel-Omega-B-Front-Wishbone-Front-Bush-/290935087986?hash=item43bd152372:g:B5QAAOSwpDdVePUc
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 13:01:53
but not the same.
that tucked them;
will change behavior of the car;
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 January 2016, 13:35:34
but not the same.
that tucked them;
will change behavior of the car;
Do you want it sorted or not?

Fit those bushes, have the geometry reset and be happy.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: Gaffers on 04 January 2016, 15:19:52
but not the same.
that tucked them;
will change behavior of the car;
Do you want it sorted or not?

Fit those bushes, have the geometry reset and be happy.

And people wonder why you are seen as grumpy ;D

Go have a cup of tea and a biccy before you come back  :y
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 15:28:23
with them, will not pounding;


with them, will not pounding;
All of you in your car, you have them;
It is the only solution;

i apologize  showing disbeliever, with all these questions.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: pauls on 04 January 2016, 15:31:16
I have them in my car and I dont feel difference except it corners better.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 15:36:11
The engine loses oil from the sump.
This oil, arrives in the bushes.
Does the problem created thereby;

We are talking about it. http://www.antallaktikaonline.gr/swag/2135760
because it does not look like.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: Nick W on 04 January 2016, 15:52:37
The engine loses oil from the sump.
This oil, arrives in the bushes.
Does the problem created thereby;

We are talking about it. http://www.antallaktikaonline.gr/swag/2135760 (http://www.antallaktikaonline.gr/swag/2135760)
because it does not look like.


As well as being easier to fit, more durable and not needing to be torqued with the car's weight on them, the polyurethane bushes recommended are also resistant to oil. There really are no downsides!


But it sounds like you are fixing the symptom rather than the cause: your oil leak. Is it really the sump? It could just easily be the cranks oil seal, oil pressure switch, or even the cam covers
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 15:57:05
self bushing shown, has metal perimeter.
what you are telling me is pure plastic ...
how to place it ??

unless your photo, shows someone else.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: Nick W on 04 January 2016, 16:12:13
self bushing shown, has metal perimeter.
what you are telling me is pure plastic ...
how to place it ??

unless your photo, shows someone else.




The polyurethane bushes do not have or need a metal perimeter, because they work differently. The plastic bush revolves around the central metal tube that is clamped in place by the bolt - the stock ones rely on the holes in the bush for the movement, and this is what makes them fail quickly when fitted incorrectly.


Fitting poly bushes is simple: push each half of the new bush in place, and the slip the metal tube through the middle - these operations are done by hand. Bolt the wishbone back in place.  The worst part of the job is removing the old bush.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 17:17:05
ie, each set has 4 pieces gasket and two metal pipes;
and put them one tube and two joints at each end;
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: jimjimanta on 04 January 2016, 17:55:18
I read that make noise in the cabin. really ?
resistant up to 15,000 miles; and post soften excessively;
not applicable warranty forever;
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: Nick W on 04 January 2016, 18:12:23
I read that make noise in the cabin. really ?
resistant up to 15,000 miles; and post soften excessively;



I've used them on lots of different cars in the last 20 years. The only difference I've noticed is that I don't have to keep the replacing them. They might be a little firmer than standard, but an Omega is soft and quiet enough that would be a small price to pay.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: VXL V6 on 04 January 2016, 18:36:53
All you really notice is a slightly sharper steering feel and slightly more feedback of the road surface.
Title: Re: help . very big problem ...
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 January 2016, 18:45:41
The oil on your bushes comes from your bushes, not the sump. OE spec bushes should have oil pockets in them... Oil on the bushes suggests that they have failed ;)