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Title: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 05 January 2016, 13:52:46
Long shot I know, but by any chance are the vectra b xenon headlight motors and level sensors the same as the omega ones? Thinking that as they are the same age car I might be lucky.
Cheers
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: Muroman on 05 January 2016, 15:29:45
I know or im 90% sure that 94-99 vectras and omegas 94-99 dont have the same adjusting motors. Dont know anything else...

-Mika
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 05 January 2016, 21:01:30
Was hoping for a bit of luck, think it's on an x plate and its giving headlight range warning on the vectra. Lights move up and down when you first turn them on then they move all the way down, vibrate, move back to centre and the warning light comes on. Sensors are attached, so to me it seems likely it will be a sensor fault. Can't seem to find anyone breaking a vectra that has the sensors on it still but I think I can get some from a cdx omega but it a way away so didn't want to waste a trip if anyone knew they were different.

Al
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: Nick W on 05 January 2016, 21:31:54
Are you sure it isn't damaged adjusters in the lamps? Very common problem
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: minifreek on 05 January 2016, 22:49:02
Headlight motors on the Vectra B's are smaller than the Omega motors... sorry fella...

BUT

Your problem sounds more like a sensor to me too, as the motors are proving they are working (by moving) and they are resting in a place that they are being told to by the sensors/ECU...

Very possibly just the sensor on the font N/S wishbone is either missing its arm or just goosed... the sensors though are universal throughout the Vx range :)
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 06 January 2016, 08:24:49
Cheers, fairly sure the motors/adjusters are fine as the lights motor up and down when you first turn them on.
Arms are attached, going to try disconnecting and moving them today to see if the lights move.

Al
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 25 January 2016, 16:05:25
Looking for some inspiration with this one as the headlights apparently need to come out to get to the motors.
As previously mentioned, both lights move down and up when you turn them on, but only the left one moves up and down when you move the arm on either the front or rear sensor arm.
I don't understand how only one moves with the sensor if they both move when turned on.
As the fld/beam warning is on would tech2 give an answer as to the fault, would it know if it's a motor or sensor fault, although as it's not taxed  and mot'd I will struggle to get it read as can't be driven.

Any ideas why they both move initially but then the divers one falls would be great.

Cheers, Al
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 January 2016, 16:51:50
Tech 2 should tell you, and Kevin Wood lives about ten minutes from you... send him a pm :y
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 January 2016, 17:09:31
I'm guessing that the quick up and down at startup is a self test, and one of the headlight motors fails this and is then driven to a safe position and ignored while the other is still working.

Tech 2 will give you a fault code, assuming you've got a "Low beam fld/vision" warning on the MID. Most likely issue is that the motor's seals have failed and the insides have gone rotten though.



Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 25 January 2016, 17:51:41
I'm guessing that the quick up and down at startup is a self test, and one of the headlight motors fails this and is then driven to a safe position and ignored while the other is still working.

Tech 2 will give you a fault code, assuming you've got a "Low beam fld/vision" warning on the MID. Most likely issue is that the motor's seals have failed and the insides have gone rotten though.




Have a motor or two here if required ;)
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: iansoutham on 25 January 2016, 18:13:10
Also, a little known fact that Omega headlamp motors are the same as some VW ones. Indeed my ones are identical to my MK3 Golf ones other than the back cover is different. However, that simply clips off and swaps over.
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 27 January 2016, 12:56:11
Al, is that you have a motor for a vectra with demons. If so how much for one please?
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 January 2016, 13:06:32
Al, is that you have a motor for a vectra with demons. If so how much for one please?
Got my wires slightly crossed... if you can confirm that Vectra b motors are the same as Omega then we can go from there :y
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: al brown on 27 January 2016, 13:08:44
Nah, vectra ones are different.
Cheers anyway Al
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 January 2016, 13:14:35
Nah, vectra ones are different.
Cheers anyway Al
They'll not be much use then  :D
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: Andyv6 on 28 January 2016, 23:42:09
Vectra xenons do a self test when first turned on, iirc there is a ecu in the driver side wing behind the headlamp this has a short loom that water can get into causing problems with the o/s light, I'm sure the o/s light ecu feeds the n/s ecu in a master and slave situation.
Title: Re: vectra B headlights
Post by: 05omegav6 on 29 January 2016, 02:39:15
Vectra xenons do a self test when first turned on, iirc there is a ecu in the driver side wing behind the headlamp this has a short loom that water can get into causing problems with the o/s light, I'm sure the o/s light ecu feeds the n/s ecu in a master and slave situation.
The Omega has an ecu in a similar location, but seems to be very well protected from the elements...