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Title: Little cherubs
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 27 January 2016, 11:34:14
Driving to work, turn off the main drag into a side street, forced to actually stop dead, with back end still poking out, made following two vehicles stop dead too because three little girls - and I'm talking no older than 10 - were sauntering across the side street, and continued to walk at their steady pace, all eyeballed me, one even went "what?!" and cheeked me, effectively using that thing in English law which disallows me from actually running people over against me.

Little bloody girls. Jesus.  :(


We made a decision, continuing on our journey - we're getting a dashcam. Had enough of this kind of thing.  :(
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 27 January 2016, 17:07:24
The way of the world I'm afraid , makes the blood boil the behaviour of some youngsters.
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Entwood on 27 January 2016, 17:19:19
Don't blame the kids ... blame the parents... it is THEY who have either not taught them manners/respect/how to behave or have taught them that whatever they do is their "right" and sod everyone else.

No child is born "bad" ... they learn, either by example or by simply getting away with more and more .....
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 21:03:14
I had one of these about three hours ago. I was turning left into a road and he (around 14 years old) proceeded to play with his phone while stepping off the pavement and onto the road I was turning into. He didn't even bother with a cursory glance away from  his phone to check the road before walking across it.
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when he realised there was a car about a foot away from him.
As I passed him I heard many words beginning with F, W, C etc. He seemed very certain that he had done nothing wrong.  ::)
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Andy H on 27 January 2016, 21:15:02
I had one of these about three hours ago. I was turning left into a road and he (around 14 years old) proceeded to play with his phone while stepping off the pavement and onto the road I was turning into. He didn't even bother with a cursory glance away from  his phone to check the road before walking across it.
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when he realised there was a car about a foot away from him.
As I passed him I heard many words beginning with F, W, C etc. He seemed very certain that he had done nothing wrong.  ::)
From your description he had right of way.
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: STEMO on 27 January 2016, 21:17:11
I had one of these about three hours ago. I was turning left into a road and he (around 14 years old) proceeded to play with his phone while stepping off the pavement and onto the road I was turning into. He didn't even bother with a cursory glance away from  his phone to check the road before walking across it.
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when he realised there was a car about a foot away from him.
As I passed him I heard many words beginning with F, W, C etc. He seemed very certain that he had done nothing wrong.  ::)
From your description he had right of way.
Yep. Give way to pedestrians crossing the road in front of you, but was he on the pavement?
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Andy B on 27 January 2016, 21:18:04
....
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when  ....

best done with an auto where you can rev the car a bit to give the impression of heavy acceleration without actually doing so .... I've 'encouraged' a few smart arses to cross a bit quicker than they'd originally planned  ::)
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 21:24:14
I had one of these about three hours ago. I was turning left into a road and he (around 14 years old) proceeded to play with his phone while stepping off the pavement and onto the road I was turning into. He didn't even bother with a cursory glance away from  his phone to check the road before walking across it.
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when he realised there was a car about a foot away from him.
As I passed him I heard many words beginning with F, W, C etc. He seemed very certain that he had done nothing wrong.  ::)
From your description he had right of way.
Yep. Give way to pedestrians crossing the road in front of you, but was he on the pavement?
No. It was a wide T junction with me clearly  indicating and in the process of turning left, when he just walked off the pavement, and almost into the o/s side of my car. Had he not been totally distracted by his phone, he presumably wouldn't have stepped off the pavement. Or maybe he just assumes that traffic will stop for him as he is obviously special. :-\
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: STEMO on 27 January 2016, 21:25:57
I had one of these about three hours ago. I was turning left into a road and he (around 14 years old) proceeded to play with his phone while stepping off the pavement and onto the road I was turning into. He didn't even bother with a cursory glance away from  his phone to check the road before walking across it.
I had no intention of stopping for him, so he got the fright of his life when he realised there was a car about a foot away from him.
As I passed him I heard many words beginning with F, W, C etc. He seemed very certain that he had done nothing wrong.  ::)
From your description he had right of way.
Yep. Give way to pedestrians crossing the road in front of you, but was he on the pavement?
No. It was a wide T junction with me clearly  indicating and in the process of turning left, when he just walked off the pavement, and almost into the o/s side of my car. Had he not been totally distracted by his phone, he presumably wouldn't have stepped off the pavement. Or maybe he just assumes that traffic will stop for him as he is obviously special needs :-\
Fixed.
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 21:27:51
I almost wrote that, but thought someone might find it offensive. :D
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: 05omegav6 on 27 January 2016, 21:31:37
Need thicker skin than that around here lol...

But, he did have right of way ::)
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 21:39:40
He walked into the road (almost) into a car which was occupying the bit of road he wanted to walk on, how did he have right of way ?
Maybe Im not explaining what happened well enough.  :-\
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: STEMO on 27 January 2016, 21:48:36
He walked into the road (almost) into a car which was occupying the bit of road he wanted to walk on, how did he have right of way ?
Maybe Im not explaining what happened well enough.  :-\
Does it matter? It's not exactly an earth-shattering tale, is it?  ;D
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Andy H on 27 January 2016, 21:54:16
He walked into the road (almost) into a car which was occupying the bit of road he wanted to walk on, how did he have right of way ?
Maybe Im not explaining what happened well enough.  :-\
No harm done today but if he had managed to put himself under your wheels then it would have been very difficult to "explain what happened"......
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: YZ250 on 27 January 2016, 21:59:01
He walked into the road (almost) into a car which was occupying the bit of road he wanted to walk on, how did he have right of way ?
Maybe Im not explaining what happened well enough.  :-\

Bit below may help.  :y

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The Official Highway Code

Pedestrians
At a junction. When crossing the road, look out for traffic turning into the road, especially from behind you. If you have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, you have priority and they should give way

I try not to stop in these circumstances to avoid being smacked up the arse.  ;)

Edit: If you were already there and he walked out then I don't see what you could have done different.  :-\
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 22:03:29
But I had started turning in before he stepped off the pavement.  ;)
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Mr Gav on 27 January 2016, 22:04:26
I`m not sure how someone not paying attention and just stepping into the road has right of way  :-\

Don`t they have to be on the road before the car is there? 
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: YZ250 on 27 January 2016, 22:12:03
I`m not sure how someone not paying attention and just stepping into the road has right of way  :-\

Don`t they have to be on the road before the car is there?

Yes, they do.  :y  I would have also thought that the onus is on the pedestrian to check whether a car is turning before stepping in to the road, otherwise it leaves it wide open for 'injury compo' abuse. I deem it the pedestrians responsibility to check that nothing is turning before crossing the road so I will continue to scatter them as usual.  ;)
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Mr Gav on 28 January 2016, 08:00:06
I`m not sure how someone not paying attention and just stepping into the road has right of way  :-\

Don`t they have to be on the road before the car is there?

Yes, they do.  :y  I would have also thought that the onus is on the pedestrian to check whether a car is turning before stepping in to the road, otherwise it leaves it wide open for 'injury compo' abuse. I deem it the pedestrians responsibility to check that nothing is turning before crossing the road so I will continue to scatter them as usual.  ;)

Totally agree with you on that one  :y

Whatever happened to the Green Cross Code?
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 28 January 2016, 11:03:31
What a world we live in, that's all I can say. I was always taught as a kid the pavement is for pedestrians, the road is for cars, if you go on the road, expect to be hit. So cross one as quickly and safely as possible.  But, then again, at my school (and I suspect all other schools) they just stand there playing chicken with cars knowing the car has to stop, legally. Pathetic.

Joke is there was a fatality not long ago of a child, on my way home from work, on a side street, killed by a car. The driver was on his phone, and drunk, and mounted the pavement, at 40mph.  >:( With people like that on the roads(or pavements) you'd think people would behave with more sense when crossing, but ah well...  ::)

Oh, little edit, on the way home last night that same road a car to my left had to do a fairly sharp brake because like some kind of mental I was going round the roundabout at a lunatic 18mph, from their right. They then bibbed me! I was in their way. I should have stopped dead on the roundabout to let them pass, I think. They must use roundabouts daily and they have no idea how to use them. Worries me.
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: aaronjb on 28 January 2016, 15:29:44
It's no surprise we can't teach kids respect; we can't get the parents to stop wearing Pyjamas to school.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3418979/Mother-performs-school-run-nightwear-protest-head-teacher-told-parents-not-wear-pyjamas-bring-children-school.html

Shooting is too good.
Title: Re: Little cherubs
Post by: EMD on 29 January 2016, 14:16:57
It's no surprise we can't teach kids respect; we can't get the parents to stop wearing Pyjamas to school.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3418979/Mother-performs-school-run-nightwear-protest-head-teacher-told-parents-not-wear-pyjamas-bring-children-school.html

Shooting is too good.

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