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Title: tyre safe to use if
Post by: vauxsull on 02 February 2016, 16:58:07
Its 16 years old but never been used?
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: b4ndit on 02 February 2016, 17:04:23
I would say no as the rubber will have degraded somewhat. I defo would not use it on the road but your choice :y
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Bigron on 02 February 2016, 17:07:12
If it has had daylight (ultraviolet light) on it for any significant length of time - bin it!

Ron.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: vauxsull on 02 February 2016, 17:08:01
Dont think its ever seen daylight... i was just checking as its a damn good tyre... i shall just keep it as the spare then..
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 February 2016, 17:10:24
Speaking of shagged tyres.......our Corsa still wears it's 2003 original P6000's on the rear.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Paddy Flannery on 02 February 2016, 19:09:58
Rubber will have degraded over time and therefore it's grip capabilities will be reduced leading to potential loss of traction and/or increased stopping distance.

Matter for yourself, but is it worth it for the sake of buying one tyre ?
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Andy B on 02 February 2016, 19:15:14
There'll be loads of Omegas around still with the original spare in the boot  ;) As a spare they'll have rarely seen the light of day .... I'd use it as a spare
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: terry paget on 02 February 2016, 20:54:58
Most Omegas I buy have brand new spare tyres on steel wheels. They have not seen the light of day since new, and show no sign of cracking or deterioration. I reckon if age were a problem they would put year of manufacture on them. I use them on the front of my car, and never had cause to regret doing so.
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Post by: TheBoy on 02 February 2016, 22:05:23
Most Omegas I buy have brand new spare tyres on steel wheels. They have not seen the light of day since new, and show no sign of cracking or deterioration. I reckon if age were a problem they would put year of manufacture on them. I use them on the front of my car, and never had cause to regret doing so.
They do.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Keith ABS on 03 February 2016, 07:35:17
My 81 Opel Senator stillhas origional spare on the alloy in the boot and has no signs of cracking or deteriation on it

Keith ABS
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 03 February 2016, 09:45:34
If you find yourself unable to use the tyre due to public pressure, please feel free to tell me where the bin is in which you throw it...  :y

If its cracking - no good, if it's not - I'd say fine. As with any item to do with vehicles, periodic inspection will be beneficial.  :)
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Mr Gav on 03 February 2016, 10:10:11
If you find yourself unable to use the tyre due to public pressure, please feel free to tell me where the bin is in which you throw it...  :y

If its cracking - no good, if it's not - I'd say fine. As with any item to do with vehicles, periodic inspection will be beneficial.  :)

A few years ago evo magazine ran a tyre test, all the tyres were new from the manufacturer and out of interest bought some identical tyres from a local garage for comparison. The tyres they bought were six months old and iirc had a 20 metre greater stopping distance than the ones fresh from the manufacturer. If that's how much grip they can lose after six months then I wonder how much difference a year it two makes, maybe another ten metres?

It's your money but there's no way I'd be putting old tyres on a car, it could be the difference between hitting another car out stopping in time in an emergency stop situation.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 03 February 2016, 10:33:49
It's a fair point, however this suggest that tyres should be thrown away and replaced (presumably less than) every 6 months for safety. But it's one of those 'you pay your money, you takes your choice' things.

With second hand rubber some will say 'it be fine' some will say 'never on my car' but I'm not calling anyone who is the latter is wrong.. just saying what I'd do, sort of thing.  :)
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: vauxsull on 03 February 2016, 10:53:25
Its purely because the tyre is a michelin primacy as opposed to a cheap budget tyre.. shame not to bae able to use it due to age even though its never seen daylight. Its a full size 17" tyre too fitted to an alloy.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 03 February 2016, 10:58:24
No good for me, then  :y :D But being a more-than decent tyre make, well you know my views  :) if actually terrified, then leave it just in the boot as a spare, which you'll (probably) never ever use. Done.  :)
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Kevin Wood on 03 February 2016, 11:26:28
Any tyre where the surface has been exposed to the air for some months / years will, at least temporarily, have reduced grip. I notice this when the kit car has had a lay-up. Take it easy until fresh rubber has started to be exposed and then all is fine.

As to the OP's question: I'd be inspecting the tyre carefully. Any signs of cracking and I wouldn't use it, but, if it's still in visually good condition, then I'd use it as a spare. You aren't going to be asking much of a spare, in the unlikely event that you have to use it, anyway.
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 February 2016, 17:31:02
Its purely because the tyre is a michelin primacy as opposed to a cheap budget tyre.. shame not to bae able to use it due to age even though its never seen daylight. Its a full size 17" tyre too fitted to an alloy.
Sounds pretty shite to me....
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: TheBoy on 03 February 2016, 17:35:13
As the tyre manufacturers (all of them) only warrant 5 yrs from production, and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise.

Now we all carry old spares, but hopefully we drive a little more cautiously (and less than 50mph for FL owners ;D) when in use, but for day to day usage on a tyre way over the 5yr mark, nah, bin it. Its the one thing in contact with the ground.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: tidla on 04 February 2016, 17:25:26
I should imagine sunlight and whether the tyre was loose or fitted and holding the weight of the vehicle would make a difference.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Andy B on 04 February 2016, 17:31:56
.... and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise. ....

but, so far, there isn't a max age for a tyre.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: Bigron on 04 February 2016, 20:41:01
Have you considered emailing the technicxal department of the tyre manufactuer?

Ron.
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 05 February 2016, 13:27:25
As the tyre manufacturers (all of them) only warrant 5 yrs from production, and actively state they should be replaced after, you can be in a grey area insurancewise.

Now we all carry old spares, but hopefully we drive a little more cautiously (and less than 50mph for FL owners ;D) when in use, but for day to day usage on a tyre way over the 5yr mark, nah, bin it. Its the one thing in contact with the ground.
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Totally agree bin it, not worth the risk for the sake of a few quid.What value do you put on your well-being ?
Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: TheBoy on 06 February 2016, 09:03:32
Have you considered emailing the technicxal department of the tyre manufactuer?

Ron.
I spoke to them (I think from memory, it was Michelin, but it was a while ago back when she had lease cars), and they will confirm that they will not warrant any tyre older than 5yrs from manufacture date, and thus say they highly recommend it is changed. But then they would say that. But at least with that info, the lease company was forced to replace the rears ;D

Tyres are a service item, and treat them as such. You wouldn't run an air filter for 5yrs, or coolant for 5yrs, or even oil for 5yrs.

Title: Re: tyre safe to use if
Post by: vauxsull on 07 February 2016, 09:36:04
I shall just keep it as a spare.. :y