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Title: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 12 February 2016, 18:28:41
I backed up a colleague today to a RTC on the M6 southbound today. Foreign HGV which had gone from lane 1 to lane 2, clipping a Vauxhall Adams rear near quarter and then pushing it sideways along lane 2 for a short spell before the HGV driver knew there was anything wrong!!!

Luckily, driver & passengers of the Adam were ok, but in shock. The non-english speaking HGV driver however was a right $%$£"£$% and started getting ratty with my little colleague. I arrived just in time, to hear said colleague say to nasty HGV man "BEHAVE OR ILL SET HIM ON YA!!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D Think he understood that  ::) ::) ::)

He stank of ale, and after failing a roadside breath test  :o :o ::) ::) he was dumped in custody. I searched his truck & found a 3/4 empty can of lager in the cup holder + other empties (make never heard of) 8% proof  :o :o :o :o  No wonder he was pissed!!!!
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 12 February 2016, 18:34:02
Just frightening Jason, luckily no casualties how many more of these ars*hol** are driving around pissed , should lose their licences for good.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: STEMO on 12 February 2016, 18:39:40
Their culture is totally different to ours. These bastards should not get bail and should be given sentences long enough to put others off doing it. The owner of the truck should have to pay a hefty  fine to get it back.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 12 February 2016, 18:53:33
He won't get bail STEMO, he'll be in all weekend + yep the truck is impounded. As for the sentence - God knows  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Varche on 12 February 2016, 19:14:35
Things have changed a lot in Spain in recent years, but I remember about 15 years ago going into a cafe at about 11 a.m. and there was a four axle concrete mixer ticking over in the car park. Only one person in the cafe and he was eating toast, with a coffee and at least three big brandies before going out and driving off.

Your fellow driving with a 3/4 empty can of lager is just unbelievable. Lucky no one was killed. 
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: YZ250 on 12 February 2016, 19:33:47
....Foreign HGV .....

Nothing to do with drinking but I know of someone who regularly travels to the UK, from his home in Abu Dhabi, to visit relatives. He got caught for speeding but he was back home in Abu Dhabi before the NIP arrived at the address he uses over here. As he was back home, and Abu Dhabi won't allow you to send your licence out of the country, he won't get any points, or indeed any punishment whatsoever.
Is this common in any other country?  :-\

Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: STEMO on 12 February 2016, 20:10:24
He won't get bail STEMO, he'll be in all weekend + yep the truck is impounded. As for the sentence - God knows  ::) ::) ::)
The custody sergeant might keep him in all weekend but what about the magistrate on Monday?
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: biggriffin on 12 February 2016, 20:20:58
He won't get bail STEMO, he'll be in all weekend + yep the truck is impounded. As for the sentence - God knows  ::) ::) ::)
The custody sergeant might keep him in all weekend but what about the magistrate on Monday?

His licence will be endorsed, and go on the data-base, if he re-enters the country driving,and is stopped, he will be arrested, as long as the beak bans him, also details of the offence will be sent to his home country, and another driver will need to be sent to collect the truck with the required, funds and licence's and dqc card (cpc).
How many of those have you checked?
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: 78bex on 12 February 2016, 22:28:00
The pish head >:( that had the potential for a nasty outcome to the other vehicle involved.

Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: johnnydog on 12 February 2016, 22:33:00
Motoway accidents (sorry pc slipped then - collisions) of this nature are relatively quite common. Foreign LGV changing lanes, unable to see a vehicle immediately alongside the tractor unit on the opposite side of the vehicle to the driver due to the limited view from their mirrors, although most should have an additional downwards mirror purely for this purpose. The vehicle they strike is usually positioned just forwards of the tractor unit, resulting in the vehicle then turning across the front and being shunted for as far as it takes for the LGV driver to realise what's happened. This happens regularly at merging motorway junctions with UK truck drivers, where they find themselves in lanes 3 for example where the motorways merge, and then begin to move back towards lane 1. In these cases you have to question why any driver would chance going up the near side of a LCV which obviously is likely to be moving back to lane 2 then 1. A common place for this type of RTC is the M6 Southbound at Broughton, just north of Preston where the M55 joins the M6. Vehicles travelling south from Lancaster in lane 1 suddenly find themselves in lane 3 where they merge. LCV's have to then move back to the new lane 1 with faster moving cars coming up on their near side.
In this case today, the driver of the car seems to be totally innocent in his actions, although the moral of this story could be to always be wary when passing up the side of a goods vehicle with the steering wheel on the wrong side! The foreign driver having had a drink or three had obviously severely impaired his judgement and he needs stringing up for that alone, but some still think that the drink driving laws don't apply to them....

Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: biggriffin on 13 February 2016, 08:34:36
There's a side-swipe involving a foreign truck every day on the M25/M20/M2.

It is also becoming common with uk trucks as well due to motorist overtaking on the inside.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 February 2016, 09:57:15
If car drivers had to sit in/drive an HGV they would understand how restricted the vision is. Whilst this one will have been alcohol related also, it is very easy to "lose" a car, even a van in a blind spot.

I don't generally travel alongside HGV and wit for space to pass them before attempting it. Obviously it can't always be that way but most of the time t can :y
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: ronnyd on 13 February 2016, 11:03:26
I,m always very wary when going to overtake a "left hooker". Always, where poss, have a shurti at the licence plate.  :)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: r1 on 13 February 2016, 11:09:10
was it only me that thought" what the flip is a Vauxhall adam?" had to google it.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 February 2016, 11:14:51
was it only me that thought" what the flip is a Vauxhall adam?" had to google it.

It's a rebadged Fiat 500 ;)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 February 2016, 11:53:49
It was a It's a rebadged Fiat 500

Fixed that for ya!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 February 2016, 13:00:06
It was a It's a rebadged Fiat 500

Fixed that for ya!  :o :o :o

 :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Varche on 13 February 2016, 13:26:20
If car drivers had to sit in/drive an HGV they would understand how restricted the vision is. Whilst this one will have been alcohol related also, it is very easy to "lose" a car, even a van in a blind spot.

I don't generally travel alongside HGV and wit for space to pass them before attempting it. Obviously it can't always be that way but most of the time t can :y

Defensive driving. Good rule to follow. Shame a large percentage haven't a clue.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 13 February 2016, 13:49:27
If car drivers had to sit in/drive an HGV they would understand how restricted the vision is. Whilst this one will have been alcohol related also, it is very easy to "lose" a car, even a van in a blind spot.

I don't generally travel alongside HGV and wit for space to pass them before attempting it. Obviously it can't always be that way but most of the time t can :y

Defensive driving. Good rule to follow. Shame a large percentage haven't a clue.   



Defensive driving haven't heard that phrase for years, when I did my driving course in 1979  with London Ambulance Service  we taught this how to read the road & control  traffic  that is moving around you simply by defensive actions once learnt never forgotten, also enjoyed the skid pan & high speed training .
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: ronnyd on 13 February 2016, 14:13:08
I,m always very wary when going to overtake a "left hooker". Always, where poss, have a shufti at the licence plate.  :)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 February 2016, 14:48:59
If car drivers had to sit in/drive an HGV they would understand how restricted the vision is. Whilst this one will have been alcohol related also, it is very easy to "lose" a car, even a van in a blind spot.

I don't generally travel alongside HGV and wit for space to pass them before attempting it. Obviously it can't always be that way but most of the time t can :y

Defensive driving. Good rule to follow. Shame a large percentage haven't a clue.

I'm both a lorryist and motobicyclist (well, was) so you learn to be defensive :y Plus I've cleared up my fair share of nasty and fatal accidents so see things from a very different angle
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Nick W on 13 February 2016, 15:13:24
If car drivers had to sit in/drive an HGV they would understand how restricted the vision is. Whilst this one will have been alcohol related also, it is very easy to "lose" a car, even a van in a blind spot.

I don't generally travel alongside HGV and wit for space to pass them before attempting it. Obviously it can't always be that way but most of the time t can :y

Defensive driving. Good rule to follow. Shame a large percentage haven't a clue.


That is the real problem: Far too many drivers are utterly unaware of what is going on around them, or what various vehicles need to make them start/stop/steer. It would help if they actually concentrated on driving, rather than singing along with the radio/talking on the phone/daydreaming. This alone would eliminate all of the low speed running into the back of another car in traffic collisions, as there is no excuse for doing so.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 13 February 2016, 16:41:48
I had another good job the other week which has given me & my boss a good laugh.

Made a police car sandwich (boxed it on the m/way) of an Astra that wouldn't stop, driver arrested for driving offences, 2 x drive offs from petrol stations, knife possession, car had no insurance tax or MOT & was seized & taken to police pound.

He rings me up the other day wanting me to release the car  ;D ;D ;D to which I says "prove its yours, tax, Mot & insure it & pay the recovery costs and you can have it back + you can't drive it as you have no license".

He's now complaining to my boss  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D and says he's gonna have my job  :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 February 2016, 17:27:07
I had another good job the other week which has given me & my boss a good laugh.

Made a police car sandwich (boxed it on the m/way) of an Astra that wouldn't stop, driver arrested for driving offences, 2 x drive offs from petrol stations, knife possession, car had no insurance tax or MOT & was seized & taken to police pound.

He rings me up the other day wanting me to release the car  ;D ;D ;D to which I says "prove its yours, tax, Mot & insure it & pay the recovery costs and you can have it back + you can't drive it as you have no license".

He's now complaining to my boss  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D and says he's gonna have my job  :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)

But it's his human right to drive without a license ::) ;D
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 February 2016, 17:32:55
I had another good job the other week which has given me & my boss a good laugh.

Made a police car sandwich (boxed it on the m/way) of an Astra that wouldn't stop, driver arrested for driving offences, 2 x drive offs from petrol stations, knife possession, car had no insurance tax or MOT & was seized & taken to police pound.

He rings me up the other day wanting me to release the car  ;D ;D ;D to which I says "prove its yours, tax, Mot & insure it & pay the recovery costs and you can have it back + you can't drive it as you have no license".

He's now complaining to my boss  ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D and says he's gonna have my job  :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)

But it's his human right to drive without a license ::) ;D

Don't joke. The ECHR would probably find in his favour. ::)
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: STEMO on 13 February 2016, 18:15:22
I don't think this is funny. It's not even pathetic. It is a sad indictment of the society we have allowed to grow, influenced mainly by crackpot rules introduced by crackpot bureaucrats in Brussels. Another reason why I hanker for 'the good old days' when tw**s like this would have been locked away for a very long time.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Bigron on 13 February 2016, 19:27:47
Ah, STEMO, you mean those halcyon days when the streets were black & white - and the people weren't?

Ron.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Andy B on 13 February 2016, 19:57:51
Ah, STEMO, you mean those halcyon days when the streets were black & white - and the people weren't?

Ron.

Not sure you can say that Ron ........  :-\
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: STEMO on 13 February 2016, 20:10:44
Ah, STEMO, you mean those halcyon days when the streets were black & white - and the people weren't?

Ron.

Not sure you can say that Ron ........  :-\
No. I'm sure there's a rule or a law about that.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: ronnyd on 13 February 2016, 20:14:51
Ah, STEMO, you mean those halcyon days when the streets were black & white - and the people weren't?

Ron.

Not sure you can say that Ron ........  :-\
He just has. :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Bigron on 13 February 2016, 22:34:07
I meant, of course, that we had colourful characters back rhen!

Ron.
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: Andy B on 13 February 2016, 23:35:09
I meant, of course, that we had colourful characters back rhen!

Ron.

when at the bottom of a hole ....... stop digging
Title: Re: Well I've seen it all now!!!!
Post by: STEMO on 14 February 2016, 08:42:24
I meant, of course, that we had colourful characters back rhen!

Ron.

when at the bottom of a hole ....... stop digging
Why is he at the bottom of a hole? Nothing even mildly offensive to most of us there. It just goes to prove my point, I think.
If it appears to be racist, press the grass button.