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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: T.m.f on 17 February 2016, 22:47:32
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Lets see who is right lol
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Lol,I voted panda but Discovery is more likely if you wanna go anywhere :y
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Panda in pink.
Obviously ::)
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Panda in pink.
Obviously ::)
:D
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He going get a disco. Put a riser kit on, a big 150tonne winch, and the pre-requisite"one life live it" sticker ;D
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He going get a disco. Put a riser kit on, a big 150tonne winch, and the pre-requisite"one life live it" sticker ;D
They're standard fit from the factory aren't they ;D
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He going get a disco. Put a riser kit on, a big 150tonne winch, and the pre-requisite"one life live it" sticker ;D
I saw a better sticker. One wife,livid. ;D
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He going get a disco. Put a riser kit on, a big 150tonne winch, and the pre-requisite"one life live it" sticker ;D
I saw a better sticker. One wife,livid. ;D
Very clever. ;D
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The replacement is required because of an insurance write off.
So, the money from that and your whiplash claim ;) together with some loose change found down the back of the sofa, you could treat yourself to a nice white Dacia Duster.
Vive la Romanian Renault!
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Got to be disco :D
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The poor sod is just about daft enough* to get another Frontera wannabe, so that gets my vote.
* Plus had a knock on the bonce.
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This per chance???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99-VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-3-2i-V6-24v-AUTO-LTD-43k-4WD-HTD-LHER-DEPOSIT-NOW-TAKEN-/151983443269?hash=item2362eb4d45:g:dxoAAOSwll1WwHxg
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This per chance???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99-VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-3-2i-V6-24v-AUTO-LTD-43k-4WD-HTD-LHER-DEPOSIT-NOW-TAKEN-/151983443269?hash=item2362eb4d45:g:dxoAAOSwll1WwHxg
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Mm I wonder. Tmf road trip. ::)
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He going get a disco. Put a riser kit on, a big 150tonne winch, and the pre-requisite"one life live it" sticker ;D
Should really say 'One life, spend it welding and stopping oil leaks on the b'stad things'
Oh and the newer models suffer great issues with the rear suspension arms, which all the specialists recommend cutting the arm in half to get it off otherwise you'll be there all day. Progress eh!
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The Aussies have a saying:
If you want to go into the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back again, take a land cruiser.
I've genuinely never seen the point of defenders. Uncomfortable, slow and crap reliability. Even a Suzuki vitara with some cheap mods will scare the bejesus out of most people off road. So no point on that score either.
For me, They're a status symbol, nothing more ;D
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This per chance???
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/99-VAUXHALL-FRONTERA-3-2i-V6-24v-AUTO-LTD-43k-4WD-HTD-LHER-DEPOSIT-NOW-TAKEN-/151983443269?hash=item2362eb4d45:g:dxoAAOSwll1WwHxg
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That wouldn't be the shed that EMD sold to some poor unsuspecting sod a while back? Complete with shagged box iirc ;D
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The Aussies have a saying:
If you want to go into the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back again, take a land cruiser.
I've genuinely never seen the point of defenders. Uncomfortable, slow and crap reliability. Even a Suzuki vitara with some cheap mods will scare the bejesus out of most people off road. So no point on that score either.
For me, They're a status symbol, nothing more ;D
That actually depends very much what you are using them for, I look after three and hate them with a passion however, there is no other vehicle which will do what they do and take the punishment they do.
One is a road rail conversion mind where the massive chassis is a must for mounting the rail gear on (plus the wheel track is exactly equal to rail spacing)
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there is no other vehicle which will do what they do and take the punishment they do.
Really? My experience (admittedly only through friends and relatives - I need a defender like a hole in the head!) is they only take that punishment on a constant diet of fettling, maintenance and not a little welding ::).
That actually depends very much what you are using them for
That is true, I was probably being a bit sweeping/keyboard warrior-ish in my assertions. I guess maybe 10-20% of users have them for their capabilities and actually make use of all those capabilities. The res, well.... :-X
If I were in the market for such a thing, my choices would be either Land Cruiser, Hilux or Lada Niva/Cossack, depending on what my requirements were. I have a real soft spot for the Niva. My parents had a Cossack, in "prosthetic limb" beige :o. When I was young I absolutely loved it, while simultaneously being embarrassed by being in a Lada ;).
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there is no other vehicle which will do what they do and take the punishment they do.
Really? My experience (admittedly only through friends and relatives - I need a defender like a hole in the head!) is they only take that punishment on a constant diet of fettling, maintenance and not a little welding ::).
That actually depends very much what you are using them for
That is true, I was probably being a bit sweeping/keyboard warrior-ish in my assertions. I guess maybe 10-20% of users have them for their capabilities and actually make use of all those capabilities. The res, well.... :-X
If I were in the market for such a thing, my choices would be either Land Cruiser, Hilux or Lada Niva/Cossack, depending on what my requirements were. I have a real soft spot for the Niva. My parents had a Cossack, in "prosthetic limb" beige :o. When I was young I absolutely loved it, while simultaneously being embarrassed by being in a Lada ;).
As they get older yes they do require more attention but reality is, the equivalent from ANOther supplier would be shot to pieces and pricey and complex to fix. :y
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In the two years I was with my ex all I remember her father doing to his Landy was sticking fuel in it.. admittedly regularly because there was no working fuel gauge ;D
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Do not buy the 3.2 with auto box at any cost >:(
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That is true, I was probably being a bit sweeping/keyboard warrior-ish in my assertions. I guess maybe 10-20% of users have them for their capabilities and actually make use of all those capabilities. The res, well.... :-X
Ignoring the "special" people with a strange love for Series Landrovers (but each to their own, and I ain't gonna knock it), most of the defenders I see around these parts are those needing genuine offroad capability, such as farmers and the utility companies having to get feed, personnel and equipment into otherwise unreachable areas.
For these sorts of uses, there absolutely is nothing better than a Defender. Nothing. Not even close. That's why the damn thing has been constantly on sale for over 60 years, and consistently sells. JLR could predict, with stonking accuracy, how many would be sold over the upcoming 3 year period.
If you think anything can rival its capabilities, you've not understood its capabilities.
As they get older, they need attention, but probably no more than my 1998 Omega ;D. Remember its a 70yr old design, and anticorrosion techniques have come a long way in that time, not just in preparation and coatings, but in the design of vehicles. Yet an estimated 75% of all built are still out there. I'd suggest that 75% of the 21yr old Omega have already been sent up to Mr Beanz and wrapped in a blue/green label.
However, I agree, you'd have to have an absolute passion for Defenders to use one for a "normal" commute... ...although I know Hotel21 has driven one from Scotland to Essex (IIRC), and survived ;D
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And the damn thing would still be produced and on sale in the UK if it wasn't for the do-gooders and eurobuearucrats.
There was talk of JLR shifting production abroad for non euro markets, but not sure if that'll happen...
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That is true, I was probably being a bit sweeping/keyboard warrior-ish in my assertions. I guess maybe 10-20% of users have them for their capabilities and actually make use of all those capabilities. The res, well.... :-X
Ignoring the "special" people with a strange love for Series Landrovers (but each to their own, and I ain't gonna knock it), most of the defenders I see around these parts are those needing genuine offroad capability, such as farmers and the utility companies having to get feed, personnel and equipment into otherwise unreachable areas.
For these sorts of uses, there absolutely is nothing better than a Defender. Nothing. Not even close. That's why the damn thing has been constantly on sale for over 60 years, and consistently sells. JLR could predict, with stonking accuracy, how many would be sold over the upcoming 3 year period.
If you think anything can rival its capabilities, you've not understood its capabilities.
As they get older, they need attention, but probably no more than my 1998 Omega ;D. Remember its a 70yr old design, and anticorrosion techniques have come a long way in that time, not just in preparation and coatings, but in the design of vehicles. Yet an estimated 75% of all built are still out there. I'd suggest that 75% of the 21yr old Omega have already been sent up to Mr Beanz and wrapped in a blue/green label.
However, I agree, you'd have to have an absolute passion for Defenders to use one for a "normal" commute... ...although I know Hotel21 has driven one from Scotland to Essex (IIRC), and survived ;D
There was talk of one being delivered to Hong Kong (iirc) by road. H21 and I were looking at options in one of those conversations you have ::)
To be fair, the newer, modern ones are quite comfortable when compared to the 60 year old design! I still wouldn't want it for long use every day though ::)
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The Aussies have a saying:
If you want to go into the outback, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back again, take a land cruiser.
I've genuinely never seen the point of defenders. Uncomfortable, slow and crap reliability. Even a Suzuki vitara with some cheap mods will scare the bejesus out of most people off road. So no point on that score either.
For me, They're a status symbol, nothing more ;D
In four years I have only had one scare in my Vitara. I was traversing a familiar track , a few days ago, across a steep hillside after several days of rain. Hardly any grip due to the tyres having 3 inches of clay on them. Foot on brake just sliding, only way was to drive it.
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Ignoring the "special" people with a strange love for Series Landrovers (but each to their own, and I ain't gonna knock it), most of the defenders I see around these parts are those needing genuine offroad capability, such as farmers and the utility companies having to get feed, personnel and equipment into otherwise unreachable areas.
For these sorts of uses, there absolutely is nothing better than a Defender. Nothing. Not even close. That's why the damn thing has been constantly on sale for over 60 years, and consistently sells. JLR could predict, with stonking accuracy, how many would be sold over the upcoming 3 year period.
You think so? Personally I have my doubts. If they were that good then surely they would be the default choice throughout the globe? They aren't, Toyotas are. Wherther it's the UN, Medcin Sans Frontiere, or some bearded nut job with an anti aircraft gun, if you want the job done in the harshest of environments (and outside the reach of an AA truck) you take a Toyota.
No doubt they have sold very well for decades, probably largely on the back of status, royal patronage, British obsession and a reputation (deserved or not is debatable I think) for rugged reliability. a whole generation grew up seeing them do amazing things and going places no-one had been before, that's bound to leave an impression. In today's world (and the world of the last 10-15 years) I remain to be convinced that reputation is deserved.
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That's why the damn thing has been constantly on sale for over 60 years, and consistently sells. JLR could predict, with stonking accuracy, how many would be sold over the upcoming 3 year period in each territory.
Clarified for accuracy for the doubters.
If you think anything road going can rival its capabilities, you've not understood its capabilities.
Reiterated (and clarified), again for the doubters.
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Always had Japanese 4x4 s now a Korean Hyundai never had a problem with any of them, nothing would to persuade me to buy a Land Rover unreliable & outdated .
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I had a Range Rover, G plate 3.5 V8 on LPG, before my first Omega. I used it to go all sorts of places and it frequently went off road, properly! Never got stuck and towed many other brands out of the smelly stuff. All on road tyres ;)
It was also highly reliable... Sure, I maintained it but it was all routine, apart from the welding. It took me all over the country in comfort, with heavy trailers, even on the hottest and coldest days when many newer marques were falling by the wayside! :y
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Just been talking to my friend who bought a 2009 LWB defender in 2012 low miles cost £26,995, nothing but problems from the start even basic things like the H.R.W. not working replaced screen twice & still causing problems , transmission issues poor fuel consumption & a damn God awful ride wishes he had never bought it powered by a Ford diesel , told him at the time if you are spending that amount of cash buy a Landcruiser .
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Next door but one has just bought a '63 lwb Defender... one owner and 10k miles... front end panel gap inconsistency is astounding, even the bumper has been bolted on pissed ;D makes the whole thing look like is just hit a tree with the NSF corner... it hasn't as the chassis is true and the bumper unmarked, as are the panels... it has simply been thrown together by a drunk union worker at five minutes to knocking off on a friday lunchtine :o
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Next door but one has just bought a '63 lwb Defender... one owner and 10k miles... front end panel gap inconsistency is astounding, even the bumper has been bolted on pissed ;D makes the whole thing look like is just hit a tree with the NSF corner... it hasn't as the chassis is true and the bumper unmarked, as are the panels... it has simply been thrown together by a drunk union worker at five minutes to knocking off on a friday lunchtine :o
It's a land rover, it's called rustic charm (bostin engineering rr kid) ;D
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Always had Japanese 4x4 s now a Korean Hyundai never had a problem with any of them, nothing would to persuade me to buy a Land Rover unreliable & outdated .
Little bro has a Santa Fe. Fair to say he doesn't have a good word to say about Hyundai ;D. Mind you, having helped fix the poxy electrics on it, I don't have much good to say about it either ;D.
Its going OK now though :y
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Next door but one has just bought a '63 lwb Defender... one owner and 10k miles... front end panel gap inconsistency is astounding, even the bumper has been bolted on pissed ;D makes the whole thing look like is just hit a tree with the NSF corner... it hasn't as the chassis is true and the bumper unmarked, as are the panels... it has simply been thrown together by a drunk union worker at five minutes to knocking off on a friday lunchtine :o
Yeah, its an old design with old production methods, almost handbuilt* compared to modern production methods.
But that's not really an issue for it, as its not a status symbol, its a utility vehicle. Can't see Guffer's ex colleagues complaining if their Cheftians aren't quite straight.
* Thrown together
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He understands that it left the factory like it, and why... Indeed it's one of its redeeming features...
What he doesn't get is that having stripped the front to replace part of the aircon gubbins, the dealer workshop made no effort to correct the factory chasms... ::)
Clearly build quality, or lack thereof isn't a warranty item ;D
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I have had a Nissan Patrol, Toyota Landcruiser,Subaru Forester & have had a 2006 Hyundai Terracan for the last 4 years, apart from normal service items none of them ever let me down on, the best attention I receive is from my local Hyundai dealership EMG .
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Next door but one has just bought a '63 lwb Defender... one owner and 10k miles... front end panel gap inconsistency is astounding, even the bumper has been bolted on pissed ;D makes the whole thing look like is just hit a tree with the NSF corner... it hasn't as the chassis is true and the bumper unmarked, as are the panels... it has simply been thrown together by a drunk union worker at five minutes to knocking off on a friday lunchtine :o
It's a land rover, it's called rustic charm (bostin engineering rr kid) ;D
Land Rovers aren't made in the blackcountry!
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A Land Rover the most capable off-roader? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
TB is smoking some serious stuff these days.
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A Land Rover the most capable off-roader? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
TB is smoking some serious stuff these days.
Feel free to add you're thoughts on the best road going 4x4 off roader. Obviously, if its not a Defender, you're wrong. But then you already knew that ;)
Obviously we are speaking from an off road capability PoV, rather than luxury, economy, emission, safety, "status" or cost.
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Getting suspenseful this innit? ;D We still don't know what he bought ::)
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Back on topic ::)
I reckon tmf is an omega owner once again :-\
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bowler wildcat :D :D :D :D
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I had a Deafener left with me on sale or return by a good car dealer friend. It was a 110 crew cab with canvas load. It looked pretty good, and at slow speeds was quite nice to drive! Motorway speeds weren't as much fun!
It however ended it's journey with me like this...
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Iirc, injector seals were leaking into the sump, excess mixture of engine oil and diesel led the engine to 'runaway'. Thankfully it was a manual, so into 5th and drop the clutch and it stalled!
New engine was required!
However, after a new engine it was up at £14kish...they do prove very popular. Some may not like them, but a lot of people do.
Land Rover products in general for me, have proven very reliable.
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It however ended it's journey with me like this...
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Ahh! So that's the off-road ability which TB was referring to, I understand now! ;D :y
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Doesn't surprise me at all , unreliable, uncomfortable & overpriced.
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Well i didnt get a range rover,or a panda 4x4,omega sadly no,but i did get a 1995 discovery 300tdi,5 door,non sunroof model,never been used off road and had all welding done several years ago,and here it is
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Nice :y
My parents had one very similar a number of years ago. Bit "wallowy" IIRC but very capable!
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A 21 year old disco. Trouble free motoring.
;D
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Looks ok and will suit your off road needs :y 3 inch lift ? :-\
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I will give you 200 for it when it fails the MOT next :y
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Well, it took a couple of goes to pass the last mot, and had rear chassis welding in 2014, floor welding the year before that, a patch in the boot floor the year before that...
Be needing a new n/s headlight and a drag link boot before April :y
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You guys know how to rain on someones 1990s parade, don't you :P ;D
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Yes but the 300Tdi Disco makes a great donor for a defender engine upgrade........
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You guys know how to rain on someones 1990s parade, don't you :P ;D
Yep, you just got to love the praise and enthusiasm they share with someone's choice of vehicle haven't you. ::) ;D
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I did see advisories and seen previous history,but i dont mind changing some parts for a new mot tho.
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Sure it will be fine... ;)
And if it isn't, Mark is just up the road :D
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Very capable car off road (not quite in Defender league), and comfortable enough on road as a daily driver (unlike Defender). A good allrounder :y
From that era, they rust like hell, so will need keeping on top of. Engine isn't the most powerful, but reliable, easy to service, cheap to service, and will just keep chugging away. Rarely give too much trouble and will go on for ages (and anywhere) if you can control the rot.
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Think its too early for my Testbook.
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Think its too early for my Testbook.
I think it's too early for any ECUs to be fitted to the vehicle :-\
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A 21 year old disco. Trouble free motoring
What could possibly go wrong 😀 😀 😀
;D
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Well been busy buying stuff ready for off roading,got wading kit,safari snorkel,2" suspension lift spacers,extended flexi brake pipes,set off a/t tyres with wheels,glow plugs and rocker cover gasket.
Reconnected crankcase breather pipe to turbo inlet pipe,reconnected vac pipe to air filter box,replaced leak off pipes,cb radio fitted,dash cam fitted,more to do tho.
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Will i have to widen the driveway gates for you to get through this time ::) ;D
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Will i have to widen the driveway gates for you to get through this time ::) ;D
It sounds like that won't be a problem..
..he'll just drive over them.
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Will i have to widen the driveway gates for you to get through this time ::) ;D
It sounds like that won't be a problem..
..he'll just drive over them.
;D
Or winch them down :D I bet it looks very different to when we picked it up ..
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It will look different over the next couple off weeks,just waiting on wheel bolts to fit the steel wheels to disco.
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I've got access to 'Microcat', which is the Land Rover parts catalogue. I can use VRN or VIN lookup. If there's any part numbers or diagrams you need, let me know! Anyone else with a Land Rover, I can do the same.
Microcat normally tells me date of manufacture and full trim specification, but for yours only tells me;
N4 ACB - I assume previous reg?
2.5 TDI EGR (GEM)
Wheel Base 100"