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Title: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2016, 17:09:22
I've never painted onto fresh plaster before, I've had some insulation put on the conservatory walls. It's then been plaster-boarded then skimmed, it's all gone a nice pink colour, so fully dried out.

I did not know this but I'm told I need to 'mist coat' the walls first? Say 1 cup of paint to 4 cups of water?

It then needs 3 or 4 coats, is this the best way?

Cheers in advance  :y
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 March 2016, 17:12:38
Either watered down cheap emulsion or PVA watered down will do the job  :y
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2016, 17:15:26
Thanks  :y

Got some No-nonsense brilliant white from ScrewFix, couple of 10L ones for £25. So was planning to water that down a bit in a bucket  :)

I do have some PVA in the garage, from when I did the floor there. Although I think I would prefer watered down emulsion, less sticky!  ;D
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 March 2016, 17:16:58
Thanks  :y

Got some No-nonsense brilliant white from ScrewFix, couple of 10L ones for £25. So was planning to water that down a bit in a bucket  :)

I do have some PVA in the garage, from when I did the floor there. Although I think I would prefer watered down emulsion, less sticky!  ;D


What yeh like  ::) ;D ;D

Stick the lot in a bucket and get splashing  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: RobG on 07 March 2016, 17:33:25
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nice pink colour
Should be more of a whitish pink when fully dry
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: ronnyd on 07 March 2016, 18:07:29
How long has the plaster been up, this time of year needs extra time to fully dry. ???
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2016, 19:01:26
It's been up 9 days now, I'd say it's more a salmon pink? I've had the windows open for most of the time. Might leave it another day or so
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 March 2016, 19:07:44
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nice pink colour
Should be more of a whitish pink when fully dry



Depends on how much it was polished tbh
After 9 days should be pretty much there by now so I would shut the windows and just get a bit of warmth into it to finish it off  :y
Look at splashing paint around Wednesday :y
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: Terbs on 07 March 2016, 19:37:33
You need the watered down emulsion to seal the plaster. It will suck it up like a good 'un, but that is what you need. If you try putting neat emulsion on, it will only sit on the surface and will be hard to apply, and may cause problems later, if you ever decide to paper.  :y Plus a probable uneven coating. In all my years in the trade, we never used 'plaster sealer' just cheap b and q matt emulsion.
Theoretically, its best to use a non vinyl emulsion to seal the plaster. Vinyl Emulsion seals the 'pores' and does not let the emulsion 'breathe', just in case it is not fully dry underneath. :y
Mind you, in todays high speed world, I don't suppose a lot of so called 'decorators' give a toss as to what they put on.!!!! You would have been shot at dawn in the olden days for not using non vinyl as a sealer ;D
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: biggriffin on 07 March 2016, 19:48:04
60/40, cheapo emulsion n water it's called a mist coat.
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: tunnie on 07 March 2016, 21:32:25
Cheers chaps  :y

Looking forward to getting this job done  :)
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 March 2016, 23:30:33
Just to echo what others have said, we've done about 6-8 rooms in our house over the past 2 years, for insulation reasons like you. We watered down the cheapest emulsion we could get so that it was about the consistency of full fat milk.

If you've had skim over plasterboard, it can be dry in 3 days, if you've had a thick coat of "browning" onto brick with a skim over, it takes about a week. The way to tell is it gets lighter as it dries. Once the colour stops changing, you're ready to paint :).


I would also use the same watered down emulsion if wallpapering, otherwise the walls can such the moisture out of the paste too quick and cause the paper to bubble/shrink.

Oh and as a heads up, I'd expect some minor (1-2mm) shrinkage cracks in the corners of rooms. So if you have the scrag-end of a pot of emulsion left, don't bin it  :y
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: minifreek on 08 March 2016, 12:02:39
Can also use any masonry paint, directly applied to the plaster as that stuff is 'breathable' and you can get it non textured too, and in almost any colour you wish too...
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: STEMO on 08 March 2016, 13:00:53
We used to put a dollop of union bond in a bucket of water, splash it on, the suction of the new plaster meant you could more or less paint it straight away.
Title: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: Clock on 10 March 2016, 22:49:35
I've just had a  two rooms and ceilings re plastered. I let them dry out for week and painted them with Leyland Super Leytex. Took two coats. Superb coverage. 15litres £33.29 at Screwfix. Product code 60248. Read the reviews on Screwfix website.
Title: Re: Painting Fresh Plaster
Post by: Terbs on 11 March 2016, 16:36:27
Confirms my post...plaster needs to breathe...so this is the stuff :y Good price that for 15 litres