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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STEMO on 14 April 2016, 15:04:07
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I'm starting to seriously consider one of these sometime in the future. It appears, to me, to be a win-win option. The only thing that need urgent action is the infrastructure to support the rollout of these machines. We have a charging point in our garage which was, apparently, an option when the house was built. Never been used, of course, but I think the government should be compelling developers to include them in all new builds.
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If you do, get solar panels on your house roof.
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A friend of mine got one of those Lexus Hydro thingy's, predominantly to save on fuel cost in and out London, whilst it wasn't his dream car, it would perform to 60+ MPG without trying on Petrol cost (Dont think he calculated the Liccy bill into the equation though), keeping it fully charged was the key though.
Must admit not really my thing as a main Car, decent engine and LPG for me, but I do have access to a smaller cheapo run around for poddling around and driving with a paper bag on my head.
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
True at present, but power storage/solar power/renewables should improve making them viable. :y
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
True at present, but power storage/solar power/renewables should improve making them viable. :y
Yes true, but that decades away though in my view. As coal fired, gas and nuclear power are here for some time yet.
You then have to add in how will batteries recycled, the cost of producing them and having them changed every few years.
Not sure i'd personally be happy with leccy car as main driver, maybe as commuter as you know the distances. As plans change, if you run low on fuel you can easily get more. Run low on leccy while driving, you are fairly screwed.
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Tunnie, you are the only 30 something dinosaur that I know. ;D
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
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Tunnie, you are the only 30 something dinosaur that I know. ;D
I want cheap reliable motoring, with comfort thrown in. What's wrong with that? :)
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We use a leaf at work , have to say it can be surprisingly quick off the mark , very eerie to drive as they are silent .
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
I don't imagine many people that buy a new car still have it after 8 years......so wont put people off buying it. They have a massive waiting list I believe?
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
I usually go through two cars in eight years, so....no worries. ;D
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
I don't imagine many people that buy a new car still have it after 8 years......so wont put people off buying it. They have a massive waiting list I believe?
Tunnie does ;D
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You will note, btw, my post said 'sometime in the future'. ::)
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
I usually go through two cars in eight years, so....no worries. ;D
;D ;D ;D
Oh yeah forgot about that :D - Guess if you have the money, why not?
I paid £2.7k for my 2.2 many, many moons ago. (2005!) - Apart from basic service schedule parts, it's been rock solid. Apart from stat issue recently.
It's cost very little to run thanks to OOF, I don't know what I will do when these old barges cannot be run any more. If I had to rely on garages, safe to say I would no longer have it. So maybe once I no longer DIY, I too would have a car for 4 years or so :-\
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And, while we're on the subject, a new, top of the range, omega was thirty odd grand when new. Eight years later........junk. ;D
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.
Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.
If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break. ;)
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Knew you'd be along soon, Al. ;)
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Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.
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Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.
Plant in Holland coming on line imminently too, which will help pricing :y
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Ignore the range, none of us will ever reach that figure. Also, if you regularly half flatten the battery, the battery life is severely reduced. Using the fast charger also. This is why NO purely electric car is suitable for my 50m daily commute, as even if I could charge it in time overnight (not enough time), the 50m drain would kill the batteries.
Many manufacturers will rent you the batteries, but when I looked, I'd be paying £400pm to do so with the options I'd have to use... ...makes fossil fuel more enticing.
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The batteries on the leaf cost 5k and are guaranteed for 5 years which means they will either last 10 year or 5 and a day.
I bought mine. Made more financial sense.
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They also get fully tested every year at service. After 3 years ours are still in tip top condition despite doing 30k miles and making a few long trips to Sheffield and Tenby.
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What seems to put people off the Model S is the price. The Model 3 goes along way to addressing that, it costs the same as the leaf with twice the range. And by the time it is released, I expect the advertised range will have increased some ;)
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We're going for another leaf with the new bigger battery pack. Then when the model 3.1 comes out (when they fix the niggles after release) then we'll get it :y
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.
Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.
If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break. ;)
What profit? You have to turn a profit to re-invest. Their losses are increasing (but revenue up) they burning more cash reserves. They have a hype about them, which is not sustainable.
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
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Anyway....electric cars have been about since the dawn of time so I fail to see how they can be the future.
Petrol for me..... :y
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If you really want an alternative to petrol then hydrogen fuel cell is the way to go. :y
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Full Electric or Hybrid? Full Electric are still far to new for me, batteries being the main cause. What happens to a mobile phone battery after 3-4 years? It's buggered!
Expect to buy new batteries after 5 years, which at the moment is 50% of the cost of the initial car cost. Better option is to rent the batteries, which I think Guffers is doing on his leaf.
For for me, it's till not proven enough to beat the reliability and use of petrol/diesel. Max range of Tesla's is around 200 miles, not sure I could live with that. As you need to include your return journey in limit, as your destination would need to have charge point.
It's also complete complete crap that Electric cars will save the planet ::)
The warranty on the battery in a tesla S is 8 years, unlimited miles and can have a range nearer 300 miles under the right conditions. I would say that's suitable for about 60-70% of the population. A leaf with about 90 miles would do me.
So what happens after 8 years, what do they quote now to replace batteries? Sorry still don't buy any of this leccy car bull. It's not the future.
Also has to be said, Tesla are yet to make a profit. So who knows if they will be around in 8 years ;)
FFS Tunnie you can be such a stupid arse at times.
Stop reading naysaying rubbish. Tesla pour all their profit back into Research and Development. Their product is good because they believe in it and invest accordingly.
If you get a moment or two at work, watch Revenge of the Electric Car and report back. I would also politely suggest a visit to your local Tesla outlet one lunch break. ;)
What profit? You have to turn a profit to re-invest. Their losses are increasing (but revenue up) they burning more cash reserves. They have a hype about them, which is not sustainable.
The cars are more like R&D for their battery and charging tech. And 12 years is no time at all for and industrial startup.
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
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I think Mr Musk is set to release a smaller 4 door version of the current model in 2017, if he can produce the goods as 276,000 punters in the good ole US of A have already paid their Deposit. When said model hits the U.K at supposedly £18k :o a few people in the car industry could well be spitting feathers. :y
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
Guess again...
https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA
And...
https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc
Not so cocky now ::)
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
Guess again...
https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA
And...
https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc
Not so cocky now ::)
Guess this is "the watch this space" car you are going for ;D ;D ;D Only around £25K to pay with the £200 part ex for the Focus. ::)
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Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc :y
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Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc :y
Not exactly hard though :)
Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine ;D
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Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc :y
Not exactly hard though :)
Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine ;D
The full fat AMG cars are easily distinguished by proper wheels and body kit... ::)
Actually, you know what...
https://youtu.be/Zuh_ylt2keg ;D ;D ;D
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I kinda considered an Ampera as a car just for getting me to work & back. Range is/should be sufficient to commute on just battery power and there's a 1400cc genny if it runs out of Durracel power. I could better things with £10k though and those batteries will need replacing at some time ???
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The one with the V10 R8 Audi is a bit impressive :y
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Tesla Motors were founded 13 years ago, I think they'll be here in 8 more. Especially with $8bn in cash & assets.
only started general production 8 years ago. sacked 1/4 staff and had to be bailed out by govt with $460mil in 2009 . safety recall of 345 roadsters in 2009 "could cause the driver to lose control of the car and cause it to crash." and 439 roadsters in 2010. I think that's over 50% of production at the time. share price has shot up though so who knows. i would ask if the 8yr guarantee is underwritten by anyone else though.
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Absolutely. Last Monday morning I witnessed on M4 going towards Maidenhead, a white Tesla Wipe the floor with an A.m.g Merc :y
Not exactly hard though :)
Mother Tunnies Merc is the 'AMG' version with it's alloys, it has a 2.1 diesel engine ;D
The full fat AMG cars are easily distinguished by proper wheels and body kit... ::)
Actually, you know what...
https://youtu.be/Zuh_ylt2keg ;D ;D ;D
That's the first roundabout taken care of, but I think I'll wait until TheBoy can drive one across Milton Keynes without a recharge. ;)
Besides, I'd have to pay that bloke in the Ferrari a bit to follow me around so I've got a soundtrack. :-*
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
Guess again...
https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA
And...
https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc
Not so cocky now ::)
Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.
I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes. :y
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....and what about the aural element of the equation? :)
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....and what about the aural element of the equation? :)
Pardon?
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....and what about the aural element of the equation? :)
Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari? :)
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....and what about the aural element of the equation? :)
Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari? :)
Doesn't matter M'lud, if you've got good tunes on your device the volume should be cranked up anyway! :y
As I've generally driven bangers the music is usually at the required level to drown out any funny knocks or noises! ;D
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....and what about the aural element of the equation? :)
Does a Tesla sound as evocative as a V12 Ferrari? :)
It's a different perspective, but set the brakes to maximum regeneration and it's so quiet you can hear the person behind shit themselves every time you lift off ;D
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
Guess again...
https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA
And...
https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc
Not so cocky now ::)
Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.
I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes. :y
Wrong again.
The system is programmed to keep the batteries below the 100% capacity on a "full" charge and to a certain level at which their life can be maintained before being "Empty". Regardless of what the driver is told by the system the car is never really 100% full or 0% empty, it's more intelligent than that. Thus throughout the charge range there is no discernable difference in torque from the (not so) loud pedal until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode where you are limited by the car as to how much torque you can apply because you literally have a couple of miles range left.
I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.
This explaination is not for you Lord Opti as I know you'll never change your mind on them, but I wouldn't want your false aspertions putting other people off :y
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... until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode ... because you literally have a couple of miles range left.
I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.
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It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-EU20i-2000W-Portable-Quiet-Inverter-Generator-VAT-Incl-/262388503386?hash=item3d1792d35a:g:WPoAAOSwL0NXEPAx) in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? ::)
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Read all these posts, without doubt I am with Opti no desire whatsoever for an electric car, petrol big engine all the way for me ! The rumble of a V8 or the silence of a "milk float" no contest in my book.
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V8 :y V8 :y V8 :y :D :y Not to worried about the fact that a Tesla beat VXR8 in a drag race by point something of a second.I like many will stick with something hot and throbbing.....that's probably a metaphor for something else,not sure what tho' ::) ;)
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You forget my other motor is an XJR.
EV's have their place and will become more commonplace as time goes on and the tech improves/costs come down. That doesn't mean they are the end of the fossil fuel car
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Whether EV's are the future as opposed to say gas power or not the main drawbacks at present seem to be lack of range and poor supporting infrastructure such as charging points.Of course not just anyone can work on/repair them as they need special facilities for discharging batteries in order to do so safely.However development will see ranges increase,more people buying them will see infrastructure improve and so on.Let's not forget the internal combustion engine vehicles have had 100+yrs of development to get where they are today.
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It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-EU20i-2000W-Portable-Quiet-Inverter-Generator-VAT-Incl-/262388503386?hash=item3d1792d35a:g:WPoAAOSwL0NXEPAx) in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? ::)
I've always wondered if you could charge an electric car (gradually, of course) from something like that, or whether it instantly tries to draw 16 amps from whatever you plug it into, then throws its' toys out if it can't.
I could see myself using one as a commuting car, but I wouldn't want something as large as a leaf for that. 2 seats, enough luggage space for a laptop and a packed lunch would do me. I wouldn't drive a deathtrap like a Renault Twizy, though, and the thought of French electrics and a ruddy great Li-Po battery fills me with dread. Electric MX5 would be perfect. :y
It wouldn't replace any of our current 3 cars either, so would have to find somewhere to park it too. ::)
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It's the lack of an alternative power supply that would put me off an all electric Leaf or B Class etc If you put one of thses (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-EU20i-2000W-Portable-Quiet-Inverter-Generator-VAT-Incl-/262388503386?hash=item3d1792d35a:g:WPoAAOSwL0NXEPAx) in your boot, would that make it a Hybrid? ::)
I've always wondered if you could charge an electric car (gradually, of course) from something like that, or whether it instantly tries to draw 16 amps from whatever you plug it into, then throws its' toys out if it can't.
I could see myself using one as a commuting car, but I wouldn't want something as large as a leaf for that. 2 seats, enough luggage space for a laptop and a packed lunch would do me. I wouldn't drive a deathtrap like a Renault Twizy, though, and the thought of French electrics and a ruddy great Li-Po battery fills me with dread. Electric MX5 would be perfect. :y
It wouldn't replace any of our current 3 cars either, so would have to find somewhere to park it too. ::)
Neighbours driveway would be ideal, especially if you convinced them "that the battery was a bit low an would you mind if I plugged this low power trickle changer into your socket in the garage" ::) ;D
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My commuting days are over so an EV is not ever going to figure in my life,but having said that I can appreciate the attraction of the EV as a commuter and as technology takes care of any shortcomings I think there will be more and more people making an informed choice as to wether an EV is the way to go. As to fossil fuels...my neighbour is a geologist for a large oil company and he assures me that all the gloom and doom about dwindling oil reserves is an absolute load of old cobblers,he agrees that yes the oil will eventually run out,but he says that there are vast reserves yet to be tapped into and so electrickery and oil burners will co exist for many moons to come. :y
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I desire an electric car about as much as I lust after a derv. :)
Indeed. I have no interest in them, they are not the future.
For the most part people buy 'milk floats' with their head and not their heart. They appeal to people who have little or no interest in a car other than knowing it will get them from A to B...........provided the oversized PP9 doesn't go flat.
Still, not to worry, a quick eight hour charge will soon get you going again. ::) ::) ::) :) ;)
Guess again...
https://youtu.be/oQ9omrZ9hSA
And...
https://youtu.be/_nQDU7HOStc
Not so cocky now ::)
Hmmm....Monster and instant torque gets it off the line pretty smartly, but it runs out of steam about half way down the strip.
I imagine it would be slower still as the battery charge diminishes. :y
Wrong again.
The system is programmed to keep the batteries below the 100% capacity on a "full" charge and to a certain level at which their life can be maintained before being "Empty". Regardless of what the driver is told by the system the car is never really 100% full or 0% empty, it's more intelligent than that. Thus throughout the charge range there is no discernable difference in torque from the (not so) loud pedal until you reach what is known on the Leaf as turtle mode where you are limited by the car as to how much torque you can apply because you literally have a couple of miles range left.
I have, on one occasion in the early days of EV ownership, coasted in to the Nissan dealership for a rapid charge (the ChaMoDo rapid chargers you see in service stations; 0-90% charge in 40 mins) having just ran out of charge and having been on the turtle for the last 5 miles which was downhill, fortunately.
This explaination is not for you Lord Opti as I know you'll never change your mind on them, but I wouldn't want your false aspertions putting other people off :y
You'll have to excuse my ignorance, Mr Guffer. ;)
Electric only is not for me but I could be tempted by a 'hybrid' so long as there is a proper engine (petrol only obviously) as back up.
The Infiniti M35H has a certain appeal.They can be bought almost new for less than half price and have a proper 330 BHP 3.5 litre V6 up front. :y
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....although the M37 without the 'milk float engine' taking up room in the boot may be a better bet. :y
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Tizzy cars can work in some areas. I work in Milton Keynes, and its full of Teslas - not a day goes past when you don't see at least one - because its viable there.
I'm sure that any MK OOFer's will agree, leaving the grid is far to scary to ever consider, so even hoofing a Tesla between the roundabouts won't flatten it, as you're never more than 5 or 6 miles from home...