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Title: stupid damn pc...
Post by: PaulW on 21 July 2008, 22:36:31
just went pop on me... bloody crappy P4 chips!

changed psu, memory, graphics... nothing :(

powers up, fans spin, no lights, no beeps, nothing...

now need to price up another pc to act as my media box, so might do a bit of an upgrade to play 1080p via HDMI...
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: tunnie on 21 July 2008, 22:42:25
check the RAM is seated correctly, if its not seated right it will not boot at-all, but if its got partical connection the normal 8?? beeps for no ram will not sound.

Any internal fuses?
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: PaulW on 21 July 2008, 22:45:51
no internal fuses or jumpers on the mainboard, reseated the ram countless times...

Usually if there is RAM issues, it does 2 short and 1 long beep 3 times in a row.  graphics is continuous beep beep, but dead cpu does nothing...

checked ram, graphics and psu's in an old athlon-based system with no problems...  this one just locked up mid-video and then when rebooted won't even post at all...
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: tunnie on 21 July 2008, 22:48:24
humm sounds mobo related, got a spare battery for the bios? only other thing i can think of.

Try taking stuff out... like graphics card, boot with no ram ect, see if you can get any responce from it.

Ohh and get a 24" iMac  ;)
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: MaxV6 on 21 July 2008, 22:50:00
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Ohh and get a 24" iMac  ;)


sage advice indeed  :D
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: PaulW on 21 July 2008, 22:50:51
Why would I want to pay an extortionate amount of money for what is basically a £600 PC  ;D  and then waist the 24" monitor by hooking it up to my tv :D

yeah done the whole elimination process of starting with a plain mobo with nothing, and adding components in to test.  also did the battery and still nothing :(
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: MaxV6 on 21 July 2008, 22:52:22
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Why would I want to pay an extortionate amount of money for what is basically a £600 PC  ;D  and then waist the 24" monitor by hooking it up to my tv :D

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coz it'll work !  ;D
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: PaulW on 21 July 2008, 22:53:50
 ;D everything else works in the house, just this one stupid pc (probably due to being a Fujitsu PC World Special bought 5 years ago by my brother...)
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 21 July 2008, 22:55:45
Silly question, have you reset the bios by shorting the jumper.?
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: PaulW on 21 July 2008, 22:56:51
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Silly question, have you reset the bios by shorting the jumper.?

stupid thing has no jumper to reset the bios, hence removing the battery itself...
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: SWMBO on 21 July 2008, 23:17:11
lol, after 5 years, even the best PC has a limited life line i'm afraid lol.

I would never buy a MAC I'm afraid, not just the overly high cost.., ya can't upgrade the darn things lol and i like fiddling too much, would deprive me of a major joy in life lol. Get bored.., add another bit lol or a new and better component :P

If only it were so easy to upgrade men he he (without losing the best bits of the original)

:P :P

/me now goes and hides
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: TheBoy on 22 July 2008, 00:09:46
Intel P4s are generally bomb proof.  More likely mobo, esp as most from P4 era will be lead free.
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: M16 on 22 July 2008, 07:41:12
AMD 64 AthlonX2 4600+
Geforce 6100PM-M2 motherboard (intergrated graphics card)
500Gb Sata HDD
2Gb RAM
Midi Tower
£250 Brand New
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 July 2008, 08:41:34
any chance to remove the battery ( for at least 10 minutes and plug off..) ?

Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 July 2008, 08:46:18
I must admit, having extensively used an imac (why the break cant you connect the mouse to the USB ports on the keyboard without tripping the poly fuse!), iPhone and various other MAC products, they are a bit niche. They are excellent for some apps but, not ideal for a general purpose home machine from a support, serviceability and price perspective.

My home machine (touch wood) is now 4 years old and has never missed a beat, so it does show that good hardware which is well setup can be very stable even on windoze...

Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: dbug on 22 July 2008, 09:11:35
Mobo m8  :(
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: Ian_D on 22 July 2008, 18:48:11
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Intel P4s are generally bomb proof.  More likely mobo, esp as most from P4 era will be lead free.

Deffo agree...

I've not come across a dead P4 cpu yet...

See a dead motherboard every other week at work! (based on a couple of pc's booked in a day)
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: Bandit127 on 22 July 2008, 19:45:48
If you have no beeps the BIOS isn't booting. Or you have disconnected the speaker...  :) The BIOS will beep with just the mobo, cpu and power.

In my experience, your problem can be due to a faulty cpu/card/mem chip/allsorts. The starting point is to remove everything except the cpu (including mouse, keybord) and try booting. If still no beep code the mobo is the most likely candidate. I would have gone for PSU as no. 1 but you have changed that.

If you get a beep code, add stuff back one bit at a time till it stops - there's the culprit.

If you don't get a beep code then it's BIOS/mobo/cpu/speaker cable in that order.

If it really did go POP! then it's the PSU.

All of the above assumes that you haven't lost faith and decided to get a nice fast new PC anyway. In which case the current system is trashed beyond redemption...  :) :) :)
Title: Re: stupid darn pc...
Post by: MaxV6 on 22 July 2008, 23:19:03
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I must admit, having extensively used an imac (why the break cant you connect the mouse to the USB ports on the keyboard without tripping the poly fuse!), iPhone and various other MAC products, they are a bit niche. They are excellent for some apps but, not ideal for a general purpose home machine from a support, serviceability and price perspective.

My home machine (touch wood) is now 4 years old and has never missed a beat, so it does show that good hardware which is well setup can be very stable even on windoze...


sounds like a faulty mouse or one with too high a current draw.

says he with mouse plugged in to keyboard.....