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Title: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 18:10:21

Depending on some potential new work, I may seriously consider a new "used" car.

My requirements: Estate. Auto. A Bit of poke. Big load area. OK for long trips to France etc. Reliable.

Took the MV6 to south of France last year. Went great and no problems. But it's beginning to look a bit tatty, minor scrapes etc. Radio CD not working properly, little things that add up to quite a lot.

Thinking (only thinking at this stage) about maybe a Volvo XC70. 8-10 years old with 100k or less. Quite a few around. Any thoughts ? Petrol or diesel ?
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 19:06:01
Petrol 2.4 or T5... E class might be a safer bet, S211 model rather than the S210 shitter ;)

Later Vectra C ('06-'09) also worth a look, but avoid the 2.2 engine (petrol or diesel)... Personal suggestion would be either 1.8 petrol or the 120bhp 1.9 diesel. Key point with the Vectra suggestion is that boot is about the same size as the Omegas, and the estate has a slightly longer wheelbase so gives decent rear legroom... Noteworthy if you travelling 4/5 up :y
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2016, 19:14:05
Surely you would get the level of refinement with a common or garden vectra though? Not exactly smooth and effortless like the superior omega.  ;D
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 19:18:00
Surely you would get the level of refinement with a common or garden vectra though? Not exactly smooth and effortless like the superior omega.  ;D
Not rusty either... ;D

Design Spec is pretty good... Climate, electric windows all round, electric tailgate, half leather...
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 19:20:05
Surely you would get the level of refinement with a common or garden vectra though? Not exactly smooth and effortless like the superior omega.  ;D

Quite. I looked at Vectras some time ago, one big thing for me was the single CD player and other little touches.

I have a question. Often models of car are referred to by numbers like S211 and S210, not just with Mercs but many others. How does one tell ? When a car is advertised it usually is something like E230 Estate Auto or something, not S211 or W124  ???
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2016, 19:22:16
Surely you would get the level of refinement with a common or garden vectra though? Not exactly smooth and effortless like the superior omega.  ;D

Quite. I looked at Vectras some time ago, one big thing for me was the single CD player and other little touches.

I have a question. Often models of car are referred to by numbers like S211 and S210, not just with Mercs but many others. How does one tell ? When a car is advertised it usually is something like E230 Estate Auto or something, not S211 or W124  ???
One has to be a bit nerdy and sad and not get out much to know all that stuff.
Al's an expert.  ;D
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 19:25:07
Starter for 10...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Vectra-1-9CDTi-16v-150ps-auto-2007MY-Design-/231972994514?nav=SEARCH
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: STEMO on 08 June 2016, 19:27:10
Starter for 10...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Vectra-1-9CDTi-16v-150ps-auto-2007MY-Design-/231972994514?nav=SEARCH
According to that ad, the MOT expired in February.
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 19:49:44
Starter for 10...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Vectra-1-9CDTi-16v-150ps-auto-2007MY-Design-/231972994514?nav=SEARCH
According to that ad, the MOT expired in February.
Good point well presented  ;D

Would expect to pay around £1,300-2,000 for a nice one, especially if a '58/'09 plate :y
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: biggriffin on 08 June 2016, 20:03:00
Starter for 10...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Vectra-1-9CDTi-16v-150ps-auto-2007MY-Design-/231972994514?nav=SEARCH
According to that ad, the MOT expired in February.

Then worth a punt,
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 June 2016, 20:17:46
Starter for 10...

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Opel-Vectra-1-9CDTi-16v-150ps-auto-2007MY-Design-/231972994514?nav=SEARCH
According to that ad, the MOT expired in February.
Good point well presented  ;D

Would expect to pay around £1,300-2,000 for a nice one, especially if a '58/'09 plate :y

That one will cost a minimum of £5487 as he's after finance customers mugs only!  ::)

Not sure that Rog fits into that category.  :-\  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: frostbite on 08 June 2016, 20:24:35
I would go for an e class or 5er bmw. Similar size both also a lot more powerful

Or go s class or 7er if you want rwd then maybe an a6 or a8 if you can let go of superior rwd
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 20:26:40
I would go for an e class or 5er bmw. Similar size both also a lot more powerful

Or go s class or 7er if you want rwd then maybe an a6 or a8 if you can let go of superior rwd
5Series tourer boot is a joke, nice Merc estates are stupid money and the rest of the list are all saloons ;D

Will find a nice example of the Vectra when I get a minute ;)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 20:34:17
OK. Suggested budget might need a rethink, nice, late ones seem to be north of £3K...

Try this as an idea...
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=121990982566&category=9858&pm=1&ds=0&t=1465414278647 ;)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Nick W on 08 June 2016, 20:40:52
I would go for an e class or 5er bmw. Similar size both also a lot more powerful

Or go s class or 7er if you want rwd then maybe an a6 or a8 if you can let go of superior rwd
5Series tourer boot is a joke, nice Merc estates are stupid money and the rest of the list are all saloons ;D



Al's not wrong about the 5series, it looks good until you open the boot, especially if you're used to using the Omega. An A6 isn't much better.


The only real option is a V70: avoid the diesel, and under no circumstances buy an automatic.
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 June 2016, 20:59:14
I would keep my options open to include anything and everything*


*......provided it doesn't run on lorry fuel.
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 08 June 2016, 23:28:51
OK. Suggested budget might need a rethink, nice, late ones seem to be north of £3K...

Try this as an idea...
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=121990982566&category=9858&pm=1&ds=0&t=1465414278647 ;)

Ummm sorry I don't think I have even mentioned a budget

I'm thinking along the lines of V70, XC70, 5 Series, E Class, maybe passat, or Audi A6, curve ball Honda Accord.

Solid reliable long distance motorway cruiser. All estate, all auto (sorry)


Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 08 June 2016, 23:47:58
The suggested part was my initial £1,500-2000 for a nice Vectra C rather than a specific budget :y

If you want to be going posh and auto, then you're only sensible choice has to be the '03 on Eclass  :y
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: tunnie on 08 June 2016, 23:58:29
These are nice, but command stupid money!

http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p (http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 09 June 2016, 00:05:51
I would go for an e class or 5er bmw. Similar size both also a lot more powerful

Or go s class or 7er if you want rwd then maybe an a6 or a8 if you can let go of superior rwd
5Series tourer boot is a joke, nice Merc estates are stupid money and the rest of the list are all saloons ;D



Al's not wrong about the 5series, it looks good until you open the boot, especially if you're used to using the Omega. An A6 isn't much better.


The only real option is a V70: avoid the diesel, and under no circumstances buy an automatic.

 :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 June 2016, 03:25:02
These are nice, but command stupid money!

http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p (http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p)
Shop around...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601280494278/sort/priceasc/radius/1500/make/mercedes-benz/model/e_class/page/1/postcode/rh104pf/usedcars

And before you bleat about the £490 rfl, the £4K saving buys alot of petrol ::)

Prices start at £3,500 ;)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 09 June 2016, 09:32:44
How about a 'Bentley' Rog?  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605194105283?page=1&search-target=usedcars&body-type=estate&sort=default&make=chrysler&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&radius=1500&model=300c&postcode=rh104pf&logcode=p
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: tunnie on 09 June 2016, 10:27:09
These are nice, but command stupid money!

http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p (http://www4.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201603192130355?page=2&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&sort=default&minimum-badge-engine-size=3.0&searchcontext=default&model=e_class&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&postcode=tw75qd&make=mercedes-benz&price-from=8000&body-type=estate&logcode=p)
Shop around...
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601280494278/sort/priceasc/radius/1500/make/mercedes-benz/model/e_class/page/1/postcode/rh104pf/usedcars

And before you bleat about the £490 rfl, the £4K saving buys alot of petrol ::)

Prices start at £3,500 ;)

I'd want the 320 rather than 280. Faster & better on fuel  :y

Also that one is not the Sport version, I like the external trim of the Sport and it has fair few less miles on it than that 280.

All hypothetical really, as my next car purchase will either be a Zafira Tourer, Ford Galaxy/SMax or similar  ::)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 June 2016, 14:45:49
How about a 'Bentley' Rog?  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605194105283?page=1&search-target=usedcars&body-type=estate&sort=default&make=chrysler&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&radius=1500&model=300c&postcode=rh104pf&logcode=p

Blimey. Are they allowed to do that ? If I was Bentley I would not be happy. However, it does had a certain over-the-top novelty appeal  :D But no
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 June 2016, 14:50:06


Not ready to buy anything at this stage, just forming some ideas.

The Mercs certainly have an appeal. And, nobody has said to watch out for particular faults

No real comments on the XC70, which is a strong contender for me. I don't know why  ???
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: 05omegav6 on 09 June 2016, 15:00:31


Not ready to buy anything at this stage, just forming some ideas.

The Mercs certainly have an appeal. And, nobody has said to watch out for particular faults

No real comments on the XC70, which is a strong contender for me. I don't know why  ???
Here's an XC70 comment for you...

It's mechanically identical to the V70, ergo the same things apply, only the handling is more role poly ::)
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Viral_Jim on 09 June 2016, 15:03:11
No experience of xc70, so no constructive comments I'm afraid

How about a Saab 9-5 estate? I've had 2 saloons and found them to be excellent. Some of the comfiest seats in the business  :y
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Nick W on 09 June 2016, 15:23:42


Not ready to buy anything at this stage, just forming some ideas.

The Mercs certainly have an appeal. And, nobody has said to watch out for particular faults

No real comments on the XC70, which is a strong contender for me. I don't know why ???


Volvos have the same appeal as an Omega for me: it's intended to be a big, practical, comfortable, sensible car with none of the  pretentious marketing wank( Ultimate driving machine, Let's all pretend it's more than a tarted-up VW, etc) the German competitors indulge in.
Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Mister Rog on 09 June 2016, 16:09:24


Not ready to buy anything at this stage, just forming some ideas.

The Mercs certainly have an appeal. And, nobody has said to watch out for particular faults

No real comments on the XC70, which is a strong contender for me. I don't know why  ???
Here's an XC70 comment for you...

It's mechanically identical to the V70, ergo the same things apply, only the handling is more role poly ::)

My local mechanic has one and that's what he says.

XC70 is AWD, and higher than V70 but not in big 4x4 land.

Title: Re: Miggy Alternative
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 June 2016, 16:29:56
How about a 'Bentley' Rog?  :)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605194105283?page=1&search-target=usedcars&body-type=estate&sort=default&make=chrysler&onesearchad=new%2Cnearlynew%2Cused&radius=1500&model=300c&postcode=rh104pf&logcode=p

Blimey. Are they allowed to do that ? If I was Bentley I would not be happy. However, it does had a certain over-the-top novelty appeal  :D But no

Agreed. That is just so wrong.