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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 June 2016, 16:25:57

Title: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 23 June 2016, 16:25:57
 >:( After the most excellent service of Autofarce some months ago, as they used the original old, knackered trim strip, it's now starting to part company with the screen. Specifically the rubber part, there's a thin plastic channel which appears to sit slightly beneath the screen. I've compared with the Peanut, and the peanut's rubber appears securely bonded to this plastic trim strip, and even moves around. Now one option is to try and remove the second hand one from the Peanut - but experience tells me that may end in tears. Also, I have no idea if I only need to be taking the rubber bit. No clue!

I wasnt there when they fitted the screen, so didn't see the 'magic' happen.

Can I pull off just the rubber, or will/should I remove the plastic as well with it ok? Lost and now completely detached down the OS A-pillar
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 June 2016, 19:07:07
The rubber clips into a channel on the trims... rubber can be reused, trims generally cannot...

Either way, fixing it properly is a screen out job :'(
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: gstylebaby on 23 June 2016, 21:09:11
Is it just the lower part or the hole trim around the sides and top?
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Lazydocker on 23 June 2016, 21:14:50
Mine did the same. Apparently the rubber is now NLS. Pull it off before it makes a bid for freedom and call them out again!
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 24 June 2016, 07:15:18
Funnily enough, mine is also coming away since the windscreen got replaced, and I vaguely remember the fella having trouble refitting it too....
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Keith ABS on 24 June 2016, 07:35:26
Get them back to refit it as they have not done it correctly to start with. Should be something in the sale' of goods and services act somewhere

Keith ABS
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 24 June 2016, 09:24:03
Ta chaps.

Apparently they used to supply them, but now they don't - not sure if this is linked to them being NLS or not. One of the blokes actually said "hey we ought to supply these, instead of reusing the old one"


Screen out. Brill.  :'(
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 June 2016, 10:25:58
Ta chaps.

Apparently they used to supply them, but now they don't - not sure if this is linked to them being NLS or not. One of the blokes actually said "hey we ought to supply these, instead of reusing the old one"


Screen out. Brill.  :'(
They go with the turn up and hope approach because they can't guarantee to have the parts in place to do the job properly, and they don't like to cancel the appointment as it costs them and annoys the customer...

I would rather the job be delayed and done properly than have it oppsed up two or three times, but maybe that's just me :-X
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 24 June 2016, 10:44:30
They cancelled and/or didn't show up/showed up with the wrong screen four/five times. I was without a windscreen and of course transport, for over a week.  :(
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 26 June 2016, 15:15:25
Think I'll Tigerseal mine back on..

Mine came off whilst on our way home today, as soon as I hit the legal limit it started to come away and made a hell of a buzzing noise too....

Got hoe and reinserted it back into where it supposed to go, but will get some Tigerseal tomorrow and glue it back on...
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 June 2016, 15:37:25
Which will render it scrap next time the screen is changed :-X
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 26 June 2016, 20:35:57
The problem you have is most insurance companies refuse to pay for trims. Insurance companies have deals with windscreen companies. Like they will pay a set price per job but refuse to pay for trim, clips etc

If they have to use trims its not insurance companies who pay for them. And as we all know a trim kit for an omega ain't cheap.

If say insurance pay £100 plus the excess. But you have the screen and the bonding kit that's most of that cash away. If the windscreen company has to pay for trim kit. Its not worth doing the job. Hence why they bring out the wrong screen etc. Job doesn't get done and its off or sometimes customer kicks up with insurance company then send Jo to another company then the cycle starts again

Its not windscreen companies at fault its the insurance dictating prices
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 27 June 2016, 08:03:58
Which will render it scrap next time the screen is changed :-X

Not planning on putting mine through its test next year, so no problem there :)

Isn't the windscreen held in with a type of PU adhesive anyway....? which is what Tigerseal is made from....
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 June 2016, 08:05:40
Kinda missed the point ::) the rubber is clipped not glued and the trim frames are an interference fit on the screen, and again, not glued...

Anything which alters the profile of the clip on the rubber renders it scrap, likewise the trims.
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 June 2016, 08:06:47
Yea held in with pu. Not the trim to the plastic backing though. That's meant to clip in  :y
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 27 June 2016, 08:11:52
Kinda missed the point ::)

No point missed at all Doc, just saying that the windscreen wont be removed/replaced anytime soon.... or anytime before the next MoT is due as I wont be putting mine through its next test coz we're changing cars next year....
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: baggedestate on 27 June 2016, 08:27:37
I've had trouble with mine aswell since my windscreen was replaced. Had the outer rubber fly off down the m25 lol
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: ted_one on 27 June 2016, 08:50:33
I have a similar problem with rust in the windscreen recess and Autoglass have refused to fit the new screen until the repair is done to their satisfaction.BUT what they don't realise is.. that with that policy they have forced me to take the car of the road for the last 3 weeks as it's been virtually impossible to get anyone here to take on the repairs.And also unbeknown to me Autoglass have refunded my £75 excess and not told me why....what's that all about? Anyway I've managed to find someone to do the work, but I've had to arrange recovery to move the car over to the workshop which is 16 miles away..but at least it's finally going this morning and having read the comments about the trims then I think I'll pay for new ones,that's if they are easy to get :-\
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Lazydocker on 27 June 2016, 14:31:59
The problem you have is most insurance companies refuse to pay for trims. Insurance companies have deals with windscreen companies. Like they will pay a set price per job but refuse to pay for trim, clips etc

If they have to use trims its not insurance companies who pay for them. And as we all know a trim kit for an omega ain't cheap.

If say insurance pay £100 plus the excess. But you have the screen and the bonding kit that's most of that cash away. If the windscreen company has to pay for trim kit. Its not worth doing the job. Hence why they bring out the wrong screen etc. Job doesn't get done and its off or sometimes customer kicks up with insurance company then send Jo to another company then the cycle starts again

Its not windscreen companies at fault its the insurance dictating prices

They pay a lot more than that though ;)
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 27 June 2016, 21:21:15
Yea. Some pay more some pay less. Was just an example of prices not actual prices. Don't want to get myself into trouble with the company now  :-X
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Paddy Flannery on 28 June 2016, 21:19:43
I have a similar problem with rust in the windscreen recess and Autoglass have refused to fit the new screen until the repair is done to their satisfaction.BUT what they don't realise is.. that with that policy they have forced me to take the car of the road for the last 3 weeks as it's been virtually impossible to get anyone here to take on the repairs.And also unbeknown to me Autoglass have refunded my £75 excess and not told me why....what's that all about? Anyway I've managed to find someone to do the work, but I've had to arrange recovery to move the car over to the workshop which is 16 miles away..but at least it's finally going this morning and having read the comments about the trims then I think I'll pay for new ones,that's if they are easy to get :-\

Autoglass replaced my screen the other day. All new trims/ rubbers were supplied ( there were lots of boxes and plastic bags ) and fitted. Have to say, they did a very neat job. Got it done free as Autoglass agreed to take care of my excess as they'd turned up the week before with the wrong screen.
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 29 June 2016, 08:37:30
Lucky sod! Managed to get my excess paid in the end, but still on my old, fragile rubber.

I hate how fluid 'truth' us. AUTOGLASS, DO YOU PROVIDE THE RUBBER TRIM? YES OR NO - yesnoermwellishyouseeitdependswhoyoutalktoactuallywerenotsure  :'(
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: ted_one on 13 July 2016, 18:28:54
Looks like this topic may run for a bit, I recently posted earlier about the rusty windscreen recess and Autoass wouldn't fit the new screen until the repairs were carried out.At that time I asked them to fit new trims and even offered to provide them at my own expense if they didn't provide them as standard, and was assured that they would provide them as part of the screen replacement....nice one I thought. But on the day that they did the job,the fitter said that the trims were unavailable and had put the old ones back which at the time looked sort of OK. :-\
But looking at them this morning,they feel loose and so I have just ordered a set of trims from VX,and will be speaking to Autoass customer services in the morning.
Question....do the trims have a function or are they just a cosmetic finisher,or does the screen have to come out again to fit them, as screens are a bit of a mystery to me ::) BUT.. regardless of what sort of resolution I get,Autoass is one shite company >:(

.
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 13 July 2016, 19:47:03
Well they yend not to stay on and fitted at just above the legal limit..... I had to collect mine from the middle lane of the M6....!!!! I oppsing shit meself too..... fortunately is was quiet for once...

They are just cosmetic, and just finish the screen surround. they serve no other function but to help the windscreen look nice...


I dont suppose you have the part number do you Nitro...?
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 13 July 2016, 19:47:47
Purely a cosmetic item. Side bits try to stop the water spraying round the door glasses but never works.

Ideally the screen should be removed for fitting of new trims don't let them tell you otherwise!!! What we call a back fill and bodge job :y
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: ted_one on 13 July 2016, 21:02:15
minifreek......I didn't get the part numbers as I just asked VX to order them,but I should have sight of them over the next few days,so if you aren't desperate,then I'll PM you as soon I've got them :y
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: Tick Tock on 13 July 2016, 21:28:26
Look forward to hearing the outcome on this. Mine look awful and there's a big gap between the rubber and the roof corner.
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 13 July 2016, 21:42:32
Thanks Nitro :y appreciate it :)
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: baggedestate on 14 July 2016, 20:17:23
mine come off the other day. i only had my windscreen replaced recently aswell. and they used the old ones :/
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: davieboy0312 on 14 July 2016, 22:23:53
When I fit them I bond the trim to the glass so they don't come off. Most fitters dont
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: minifreek on 14 July 2016, 22:49:49
I now need my brand new windscreen replaced..... just got 2 huge cracks in it.....
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: biggriffin on 15 July 2016, 08:25:14
minifreek......I didn't get the part numbers as I just asked VX to order them,but I should have sight of them over the next few days,so if you aren't desperate,then I'll PM you as soon I've got them :y

The keeper of photos and numbers aka(RobG) be along soon with pictures and numbers ;D
Title: Re: Windscreen trim strip falling off!!! What to do?
Post by: EMD on 09 August 2016, 09:50:07
3rd time lucky windcreen fitted to the Omega last week  ::) I think they have got the hang of fitting the trims properly now  :D ;D Trims are apparently £70 a pop  :o