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Title: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 12:23:13
I doubt I would vote for any of them but Stephen Crabb comes across as living in the real world.

'Boris the Bloodless' is not for me. He has virtually no experience of senior government.

I'm not being sexist  ::) 8) but I think we can ignore the 'token girlies' who make up the numbers.The job will be too big for them.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: STEMO on 29 June 2016, 12:34:06
I'm watching Cameron on PMQ's. He is very good at what he does and I really can't see anyone filling his boots. As for Stephen Crabb, I've never heard of him.
I fear, after last weeks vote,  that not only will we be poorer as a country but, if we don't choose our path very carefully and put the right people in place, we are in danger of becoming an insignificant laughing stock. There are plenty in Europe who would relish that scenario.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 12:41:50
I'm watching Cameron on PMQ's. He is very good at what he does and I really can't see anyone filling his boots. As for Stephen Crabb, I've never heard of him.
I fear, after last weeks vote,  that not only will we be poorer as a country but, if we don't choose our path very carefully and put the right people in place, we are in danger of becoming an insignificant laughing stock. There are plenty in Europe who would relish that scenario.

I would have to agree with that.

I think the last thing we need is a 'rabid unhinged individual'....I mention no names. :)

As for Stephen Crabb......google him you lazy northern reprobate. ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 June 2016, 12:56:08
I would imagine there will be two serious candidates. Boris and Theresa May. Imo Theresa hid behind the sofa the whole way through the EU referendum campaign and that may well wreck her chances, and rightly so.
There is no-one in contention who I think will be the best possible candidate, but I expect Boris to enjoy the spoils of his victory.
David Davis would still be my choice as Tory leader. If they had chose him over the vacuous, compulsive liar Cameron they may have saved themselves a whole lot of grief in the last 6 years.
As for Labour. I can see them actually splitting into two different parties. The MP,s forming a new party, leaving Corbyn with his young, naïve, idealistic membership.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: zirk on 29 June 2016, 13:25:22
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 13:45:27
The wee girlie who runs Scotland wants the SNP to be considered as the main opposition to the government. Her argument being that the Labour party is no longer fit for purpose. :-\

Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: STEMO on 29 June 2016, 13:45:43
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
There's a very strong and powerful 'anyone but Boris' lobby forming. All well and good but, for Christs sake, don't let someone like the intellectualy-challenged Nicky Morgan get in by the back door.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 June 2016, 13:53:33
The wee girlie who runs Scotland wants the SNP to be considered as the main opposition to the government. Her argument being that the Labour party is no longer fit for purpose. :-\

She's right!  ::)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 13:54:10
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
There's a very strong and powerful 'anyone but Boris' lobby forming. All well and good but, for Christs sake, don't let someone like the intellectualy-challenged Nicky Morgan get in by the back door.

Whenever I see her, I imagine  she owns several horses and has a sister called Pippa.

Why does she always wear a startled expression, like a big black fella has just taken her roughly from behind?
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 June 2016, 14:04:44
I doubt I would vote for any of them but Stephen Crabb comes across as living in the real world.

'Boris the Bloodless' is not for me. He has virtually no experience of senior government.

I'm not being sexist  ::) 8) but I think we can ignore the 'token girlies' who make up the numbers.The job will be too big for them.

That surprises me Opti..... I would have thought you'd love a piece of Andrea Leadsom. Worryingly I'm not sure I wouldn't  :-[ :-[ :-[ :o ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 14:08:29
I doubt I would vote for any of them but Stephen Crabb comes across as living in the real world.

'Boris the Bloodless' is not for me. He has virtually no experience of senior government.

I'm not being sexist  ::) 8) but I think we can ignore the 'token girlies' who make up the numbers.The job will be too big for them.

That surprises me Opti..... I would have thought you'd love a piece of Andrea Leadsom. Worryingly I'm not sure I wouldn't  :-[ :-[ :-[ :o ;D

Strewth, Mr Bear. No thanks. She is older than time itself.

Perhaps she has an attractive daughter. :)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Webby the Bear on 29 June 2016, 14:11:48
I doubt I would vote for any of them but Stephen Crabb comes across as living in the real world.

'Boris the Bloodless' is not for me. He has virtually no experience of senior government.

I'm not being sexist  ::) 8) but I think we can ignore the 'token girlies' who make up the numbers.The job will be too big for them.

That surprises me Opti..... I would have thought you'd love a piece of Andrea Leadsom. Worryingly I'm not sure I wouldn't  :-[ :-[ :-[ :o ;D

Strewth, Mr Bear. No thanks. She is older than time itself.

Perhaps she has an attractive daughter. :)

 ;D maybe it's a reflection on the 'mature specialist' material I've been watching of late I stumbled upon when perusing t'Internet looking for a pair of shoes.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 29 June 2016, 14:33:27
A lot of people think that Boris got into Eton due to his background.
In fact, Boris actually was awarded a scholarship due to the grey matter between his ears  ;)

Don't be fooled into thinking he is some sort of bumbling idiot because you couldn't be more wrong were this bloke is concerned  ;) He knows how to unite people and win as he showed during the Brexit campaign  :y

Stephen Crabb is the new William Hague of the tory party imo
A new golden boy with a working class background who will go far in the years to come probably not ready yet  :-\

Michael Gove has shown he can get the job done and doesn't mind pissing a few people off in the process 

Forget the girlies because non of them have the charm of Thatcher  ;)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 15:13:05
A lot of people think that Boris got into Eton due to his background.
In fact, Boris actually was awarded a scholarship due to the grey matter between his ears  ;)

Don't be fooled into thinking he is some sort of bumbling idiot because you couldn't be more wrong were this bloke is concerned  ;) He knows how to unite people and win as he showed during the Brexit campaign  :y

Stephen Crabb is the new William Hague of the tory party imo
A new golden boy with a working class background who will go far in the years to come probably not ready yet  :-\

Michael Gove has shown he can get the job done and doesn't mind pissing a few people off in the process 

Forget the girlies because non of them have the charm of Thatcher ;)

Charming is not an adjective I'd use to describe old iron balls. :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 June 2016, 15:35:25
Charming is not an adjective I'd use to describe old iron balls. :D ;D ;)

Let's not hear any more adjectives, or we'll all be reaching for the mind bleach.  :o

You can't even veil that one behind the speculation that she has an attractive daughter. Oh, don't tell me... You would?  :-X
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 June 2016, 18:13:46
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
Net result is the same, he becomes the next PM, and as such has a responsibility to ensure that he leads from the front and gets the job done and done right ;)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Nick W on 29 June 2016, 18:20:14
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
Net result is the same, he becomes the next PM, and as such has a responsibility to ensure that he leads from the front and gets the job done and done right ;)


Those are several new skills for him to learn on the job. Is it too much to expect that a prospective leader would have shown some of them already?
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 June 2016, 18:42:19
I'd imagine our Lord Opti could handle Anna Soubry?   ::)  :y
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 18:50:57
I'd imagine our Lord Opti could handle Anna Soubry?   ::)  :y
.....and her sister(s). :)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 June 2016, 19:04:10
I'd imagine our Lord Opti could handle Anna Soubry?   ::)  :y
.....and her sister(s). :)

Why not?  ???  We all know you like a feisty forthright woman...............                                 and her sister!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 June 2016, 20:00:35
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
Net result is the same, he becomes the next PM, and as such has a responsibility to ensure that he leads from the front and gets the job done and done right ;)


Those are several new skills for him to learn on the job. Is it too much to expect that a prospective leader would have shown some of them already?
Better or worse, London didn't become a smoldering ruin with him as Mayor...
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 29 June 2016, 20:07:01
STEMO for the top job!!! He'll soon snap em into line!  :y :y :y
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: STEMO on 29 June 2016, 20:13:11
STEMO for the top job!!! He'll soon snap em into line!  :y :y :y
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who wouldn't like that at all.  ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 29 June 2016, 20:24:52
STEMO for the top job!!! He'll soon snap em into line!  :y :y :y
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who wouldn't like that at all.  ;D

Never said you had to be popular  :D ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 June 2016, 20:26:51
STEMO for the top job!!! He'll soon snap em into line!  :y :y :y
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who wouldn't like that at all.  ;D

You could change the shape of Britain.

Barnsley and Wakefield could replace London as the financial capital of the world. :)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: STEMO on 29 June 2016, 20:33:28
It would be good for some people. Vladimir Putin would appear to be a benevolent, caring kind of chap all of a sudden.  ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Crazycarzowner on 29 June 2016, 20:35:48
That's the spirit!!! :y :y :y
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Rods2 on 30 June 2016, 02:04:32
STEMO for the top job!!! He'll soon snap em into line!  :y :y :y
There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of people who wouldn't like that at all.  ;D

You could change the shape of Britain.

Since Monday STEMO, Barnsley and Wakefield have replace Reykjavik as the financial capital of Iceland. :)

Fixed ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: btc on 30 June 2016, 12:18:24
Boris has ruled himself out of the running to be the next PM could it be Grove
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: zirk on 30 June 2016, 12:35:04
Boris will probably get it, assuming he doesn't bottle it at the last moment, some will say he's the right man for the job, others will probably argue he started this mess so now sort it out.  :-\
Seems sooner than I thought he would.  ::)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 30 June 2016, 12:39:47
I smell something fishy going on in the Conservative Party and its not coming from Theresa Mays panties  :-X :D

Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 30 June 2016, 15:17:11
I smell something fishy going on in the Conservative Party and its not coming from Theresa Mays panties  :-X :D

How am I expected to enjoy my dinner tonight, Mr Gonads? ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: amazonian on 01 July 2016, 23:08:09
Theresa May is a certainty for the job, if only by a process of elimination.

You cannot take any of the others seriously.

 :)  :)

Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 July 2016, 09:48:10
I smell something fishy going on in the Conservative Party and its not coming from Theresa Mays panties  :-X :D

How am I expected to enjoy my dinner tonight, Mr Gonads? ;) :D ;D



A nice parsley sauce goes well with fish  :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 02 July 2016, 09:50:10
Theresa May is a certainty for the job, if only by a process of elimination.

You cannot take any of the others seriously.

 :)  :)



I wonder who Camoron and his gimp, Osborne are backing  ;)
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Rods2 on 02 July 2016, 16:43:34
Personally I don't think 'Thick as Bisto' May has the vision or negotiating skills that are required for #Brexit and the 12 or more bilateral trade negotiations. Gove and Andrea Leadsom seem the best candidates to me.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 July 2016, 16:50:41
I think Gove could be on the back benches before the year is out, but Andrea Leadsom would make an excellent leader.
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 July 2016, 17:00:06
Personally I don't think 'Thick as Bisto' May has the vision or negotiating skills that are required for #Brexit and the 12 or more bilateral trade negotiations. Gove and Andrea Leadsom seem the best candidates to me.

How long before Mr Gove plunges a dagger between the ribs of Andrea Leadsom, I wonder?
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Nick W on 02 July 2016, 17:07:48
I think Gove could be on the back benches before the year is out, but Andrea Leadsom would make an excellent leader.


I think you're right about Gove, his conduct this week means anyone would have to be utterly desperate to work under him/vote for him/be in the same room as him. He's fulfilled his function of removing Boris.


Andrea who? ;D
Title: Re: New Tory leader?
Post by: Rods2 on 03 July 2016, 16:50:14
This is what Jonathon Forman's experience of Teresa May is. The article was pulled from the Telegraph after pressure from Teresa May's election campaign.

http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/read-full-article-pulled-telegraph-pressure-may-campaign/ (http://order-order.com/2016/07/02/read-full-article-pulled-telegraph-pressure-may-campaign/)

Teresa May was IMO a total failure as Home secretary, she was tasked with reducing net migration to 10,000s but last figures were worst ever at over 330,000. :o :o :o If she becomes PM she is keen and on a mission to fully implement Sharia law for the UK Islamic community, so we have an unaccountable legal system within outside of our legal system.. She may make the last two but she is disliked by Conservative party members and she went against her local Conservative association, where she saw Remain as a political advancement opportunity, so, thankfully, it is very unlikely she will win the Conservative party members ballot.