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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: omegaelitetd on 11 July 2016, 08:55:53
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hi,
ive got a 2000 omega 3.0 V6 manual MV6 estate facelift.
and my rear brake disc backing plates have turned to dust. vauxhall no longer stock these, anyone tell me where i can get some from? ive already looked on ebay.
also, i'd like to fit a NCDR2013 satnav headunit + screen into the omega, is it a straight plug in and play?
does anyone have a satnav setup for sale?
many thanks
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Perhaps not directly answering the question, but important info nonetheless - backing plates require the removal of the rear hub/bearings. This is, depening on your OOF Top Trumps Experience Level ...
1.0 Pah! I do them in 15 mins a side between making love to my three wives and learning the Violin
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9.9 That is impossible, I spent two days with the car up in the air, snapped two pullers, nearly broke my wrist, eventually had to drive to a garage to get them to do it - who failed. Where's Serek/Marks DTM/Nick W/JamesV6CDX? ? ?
Basically you need some custom tools to make the job doable. It's not impossible, and is doable with the right tools, time and prep. But it's not half as easy as replacing the fronts, that's all.
The second option is to weld on replacement patches to 'professionally bodge' the holes which have appeared. Long term option is, of course to strip down, refurb and repaint the rear axle assembly, with new hubs and backplates. Depends how far you want to go financially and time-wise. :y
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my rear wheel bearing has gone on my omega and while stripping it apart i have discovered that the rear plates are knackered and cant really be fixed theres not much to weld to, and annoyingly the fixing kit for handbrake shoes attach to this otherwise i would just leave them off.
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also, will a ncdc2013 from a signum or vectra c with screen fit and work in an omega?
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also, will a ncdc2013 from a signum or vectra c with screen fit and work in an omega?
Nope :)
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also, will a ncdc2013 from a signum or vectra c with screen fit and work in an omega?
Nope :)
hmm, they look the same to me in the pics.
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I asked the same question a week or so ago. I got the answer I expected, but thought it best to check.
If you find a supply of Omega style NCDC 2013 / CID,s give me a shout. :D
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also, will a ncdc2013 from a signum or vectra c with screen fit and work in an omega?
Nope :)
hmm, they look the same to me in the pics.
Categorically will not work, although they look identical behind the scenes it's a totally different system in Vectra C & Signum.
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oh, only reason i asked is ive seen some forsale advertised for omega vec c and signum on ebay
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oh, only reason i asked is ive seen some forsale advertised for omega vec c and signum on ebay
Yeah, but you can also buy magic beans on eBay ::)
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Whilst the NCDC unit is identical between the cars, the display is different and incompatible.
I think VXL V6 and I had nearly the entire UK supply of Omega NCDC/CIDs/Telematics between us, and I launched all of mine and half of his into orbit :-[. Since that day, I'm managed to scrabble enough bits from various sources to keep me going to the end of my Omega ownership, but its becoming increasingly rare to acquire Omega ones. Vectra ones a more common, but not much use to us...
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Oh, and if you think you can bodge in a Vectra screen, I have one here, I've been there, tried it, bought the T-Shirt, spent a shed load on Vecta ECUs, gave up as not viable.
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Also, if the car was recently aquired from the Kings Lynn area, I would be more concerned about welding up the front of the chassis than messing with the radio...
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Also, if the car was recently aquired from the Kings Lynn area, I would be more concerned about welding up the front of the chassis than messing with the radio...
Yup. :), in the rare silver also. Now if it's for sale again ::)
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Also, if the car was recently aquired from the Kings Lynn area, I would be more concerned about welding up the front of the chassis than messing with the radio...
it is said car from kings lynn, have no idea what youre on about welding up the front end???? it went straight through its mot
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Also, if the car was recently aquired from the Kings Lynn area, I would be more concerned about welding up the front of the chassis than messing with the radio...
it is said car from kings lynn, have no idea what youre on about welding up the front end???? it went straight through its mot
Very surprising seeing as this was the first result ???
Test date: 1 July 2016
Test Result: Fail
Odometer reading: 83,016 miles
MOT test number: 1319 6090 0966
Reason(s) for failure: rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) offside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) nearside outer Ball joint has excessive play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) offside Rear wheel bearing rough when rotated (2.6.1) nearside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) offside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)
Advisory notice item(s): offside outer Ball joint has slight play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened both heavy rusted on inner faces (3.5.1i) offside rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
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Also, if the car was recently aquired from the Kings Lynn area, I would be more concerned about welding up the front of the chassis than messing with the radio...
it is said car from kings lynn, have no idea what youre on about welding up the front end???? it went straight through its mot
Very surprising seeing as this was the first result ???
Test date: 1 July 2016
Test Result: Fail
Odometer reading: 83,016 miles
MOT test number: 1319 6090 0966
Reason(s) for failure: rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) offside front Steering component mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded chassis rail at steering idler mount (2.2.C.1h) nearside outer Ball joint has excessive play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) offside Rear wheel bearing rough when rotated (2.6.1) nearside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1) offside front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)
Advisory notice item(s): offside outer Ball joint has slight play track rod end (2.2.B.1f) front brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened both heavy rusted on inner faces (3.5.1i) offside rear brake disc worn, pitted or scored, but not seriously weakened (3.5.1i) Windscreen has damage to an area less than a 40mm circle outside zone 'A' (8.3.1d)
Hence why it appeared as an auction and not a for sale. ::)
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no i bought it with no mot and didnt know it had been for one else where previously. ive since had it mot'd at a garage near me who passed it and before anyone asks no it wasnt a bent ticket either. perhaps it went to a mot testing station such as kwik fit or similar who was trying to find work it didnt need i dont know aint the first time ive had that in the past certain garages failing it on stuff it didnt need in the first place.
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Brake imbalance and steering component chassis mounting corrosion are not subjective items :-X
I didn't make a note of the listing, so have no reg for running the latest MoT... but would have thought that the brake imbalance would have constituted a dangerous fault :-\
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Also looking at the past Mot history it had been flagged up every year,suggesting problems had never been resolved although not failing on
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no i bought it with no mot and didnt know it had been for one else where previously. ive since had it mot'd at a garage near me who passed it and before anyone asks no it wasnt a bent ticket either. perhaps it went to a mot testing station such as kwik fit or similar who was trying to find work it didnt need i dont know aint the first time ive had that in the past certain garages failing it on stuff it didnt need in the first place.
That could be true, but if I had just bought it I would give it a close inspection on the areas mentioned above. ;)
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no i bought it with no mot and didnt know it had been for one else where previously. ive since had it mot'd at a garage near me who passed it and before anyone asks no it wasnt a bent ticket either. perhaps it went to a mot testing station such as kwik fit or similar who was trying to find work it didnt need i dont know aint the first time ive had that in the past certain garages failing it on stuff it didnt need in the first place.
That could be true, but if I had just bought it I would give it a close inspection on the areas mentioned above. ;)
once ive sorted the rear brakes etc out im planning on fitting new front discs + pads on it anyway aswell as 2 new front tyres as they are low so i'l be having a good look at these areas anyway.
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Might be best to have a look before you spend more money on it ?
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There's a rumour, that the mot testers dog was very friendly ;D
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Chassis corrosion is very speculative in my experience, you see some pass areas of corrosion and others fail it.
As for back plates, according to my tame man they are still available but have to come from Germany so a few days wait.
On the NCDC displays, the (rare) Astra G ones will work with the Omega if that helps (fitted two of these myself) but there is a mode pin you need to set to get them to program ok. Other wise its a case of add a few extra wires to the loom for the RGB signals etc and move a couple of pins around, easy enough to do.
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Chassis corrosion is very speculative in my experience, you see some pass areas of corrosion and others fail it.
As for back plates, according to my tame man they are still available but have to come from Germany so a few days wait.
is the back plates from vauxhall? as ive already tried them and they said no longer stocked??
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Yes from Vx
Try calling another dealer as you have probably hit upon one who cant be arsed to look at stock in the other dealers or central stock :y
Part codes are 24436738 and 24436739
As an example, there are a pair on German ebay for circa €86 delivered
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-ORIGINAL-GM-Opel-Abdeckblech-Bremsankerblech-OMEGA-B-hinten-24436738-24436739/182169202654?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37468%26meid%3Deb7ed36bc00b45638545b01a4da9d2af%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D182169202654
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Yes from Vx
Try calling another dealer as you have probably hit upon one who cant be arsed to look at stock in the other dealers or central stock :y
Part codes are 24436738 and 24436739
As an example, there are a pair on German ebay for circa €86 delivered
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-ORIGINAL-GM-Opel-Abdeckblech-Bremsankerblech-OMEGA-B-hinten-24436738-24436739/182169202654?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D37468%26meid%3Deb7ed36bc00b45638545b01a4da9d2af%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dlo%26sd%3D182169202654
many thanks ive just ordered these.
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Which model of the Astra G range would have had an NCDC 2013 / CID fitted ? :-\
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Which model of the Astra G range would have had an NCDC 2013 / CID fitted ? :-\
Think Mark means the CID, rather than the entire set up, but will be pretty rare as the NCDR1100 with CID was probably a £900+ option...
Usual caveat also applies re depairing properly or risk bricking it ;)
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Can a properly depaired CID screen then be paired to a NCDC 2013 which has been paired to (and then depaired from)a GID ?
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Can a properly depaired CID screen then be paired to a NCDC 2013 which has been paired to (and then depaired from)a GID ?
If it is depaired and in delivery mode then yes. The process basically involves depairing everything and starting again from scratch so the security code is needed for the car it is going into :y
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Good stuff. Just got to find one that's guaranteed to have been put into delivery mode, then someone localish with Tech 2 who knows what they are doing. What could possibly go wrong. :D
Or if I'm feeling really foolhardy I could do it all with my naff code reader. :o ;D ;D
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Good stuff. Just got to find one that's guaranteed to have been put into delivery mode, then someone localish with Tech 2 who knows what they are doing. What could possibly go wrong. :D
Or if I'm feeling really foolhardy I could do it all with my naff code reader. :o ;D ;D
You can never have too many door stops :D :D
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Can a properly depaired CID screen then be paired to a NCDC 2013 which has been paired to (and then depaired from)a GID ?
If it is depaired and in delivery mode then yes. The process basically involves depairing everything and starting again from scratch so the security code is needed for the car it is going into :y
Not quite true, you can pair an unpaired screen to a paired headunit if you know the code.
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The code for the unpaired screen, the headunit or both ?
How would I find the code ?
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The code for the unpaired screen, the headunit or both ?
How would I find the code ?
This sounds like a fickin spy thriller.
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Its much more complicated than that. :D
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The code for the unpaired screen, the headunit or both ?
How would I find the code ?
This sounds like a fickin spy thriller.
It's nowhere near that interesting ;D