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Title: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 12:13:59
Prime minister May it is, then, and may God bless all who sail in her.  ;D
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 12:26:47
Prime minister May it is, then, and may God bless all who sail in her.  ;D

What happened?
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Entwood on 11 July 2016, 12:32:03
Prime minister May it is, then, and may God bless all who sail in her.  ;D

What happened?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208

:)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 12:32:28
So all that 'remains' is for a 'remainer' to sort Brexit. ::)

Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 12:34:02
Prime minister May it is, then, and may God bless all who sail in her.  ;D

What happened?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36763208

:)

Thanks. I think she would have been out of her depth......and comfort zone.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Entwood on 11 July 2016, 12:34:12
So all that 'remains' is for a 'remainer' to sort Brexit. ::)

Should be interesting.

Perhaps .. but she says she ain't going back on the decision ...

"Conservative leadership candidate Theresa May says many people feel "frustration... about the loss of control over their day-to-day lives".

These are people who made sacrifices during the financial crisis, she argues, who face rising bills, a lack of affordable housing and job insecurity.

Mrs May also says there is a gap between "a wealthy London and the rest of the country".

She says the vote to leave the EU was "also a vote for serious change" and adds:

There will be no attempts to remain inside the EU... no attempts to rejoin it by the back door, no second referendum."
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 12:38:31
So all that 'remains' is for a 'remainer' to sort Brexit. ::)

Should be interesting.

Perhaps .. but she says she ain't going back on the decision ...

"Conservative leadership candidate Theresa May says many people feel "frustration... about the loss of control over their day-to-day lives".

These are people who made sacrifices during the financial crisis, she argues, who face rising bills, a lack of affordable housing and job insecurity.

Mrs May also says there is a gap between "a wealthy London and the rest of the country".

She says the vote to leave the EU was "also a vote for serious change" and adds:

There will be no attempts to remain inside the EU... no attempts to rejoin it by the back door, no second referendum."


I believe that Theresa will do her best for the country. :y

However, I feel sure  there will be a queue of 'Brexiteers' who feel that her heart isn't in it. :-\

Division in the Tory party?.......surely not. ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: aaronjb on 11 July 2016, 13:17:28
Perhaps .. but she says she ain't going back on the decision ...

And politicians never change their minds after they've got in.. :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2016, 13:18:17
The 'Establishment' had their knives out for Leadsom from the moment she emerged as a serious contender after Boris pulled out and conducted a nasty smear operation to discredit her.  ::)

So it looks like we have Cruella De Vil for the next 4 years as PM and probably longer, as Labour are a bigger shambles than the Tories!  :o
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2016, 13:22:19
She failed to mention though, if she intends to remain a member of the single market or not.  ;)
I don't trust her, although she has played quite a clever game over the last couple of months.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2016, 13:40:01
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if an 'event' happens that leads the Government to overrule the referendum result in the 'national interest'.  :-X
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: aaronjb on 11 July 2016, 13:46:20
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if an 'event' happens that leads the Government to overrule the referendum result in the 'national interest'.  :-X

I'm absolutely sure that's what will happen - whether or not that's likely to trigger a complete implosion in the (current) Tory party.

Despite how I voted I don't think they will be able to ignore the continuously falling exchange rate, share prices etc and not do something to protect the interests of the corporate world (which, in reality, tends to be our interests too as they pay our wages in one way shape or form), even if it means career suicide.

Ho hum.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 13:56:13
Talk of parliament taking a vote. ::) ::)

After all, they are the elected representatives of the people. :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Nick W on 11 July 2016, 13:59:20

Division in the Tory party?.......surely not. ::) ::) ;)


No, they're just playing their favourite game of let's have a new leader. After all, it's way more fun than trying to come with a plan of achieving their promises, let alone actually carrying it out.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2016, 14:27:05

Chaos in the Labour party?.......surely not. ::) ::) ;)

 ::)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 14:40:44
If we don't get to leave, I'm going to write a stiff letter to the Times. Harrumph......
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 14:49:49
If we don't get to leave, I'm going to write a stiff letter to the Times. Harrumph......

I thought your days of 'anything stiff' was long gone. :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 15:26:50
If we don't get to leave, I'm going to write a stiff letter to the Times. Harrumph......

I thought your days of 'anything stiff' was long gone. :)
I can still get it up......for a moment or two. ;D
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 July 2016, 15:44:15
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if an 'event' happens that leads the Government to overrule the referendum result in the 'national interest'.  :-X

I'm absolutely sure that's what will happen - whether or not that's likely to trigger a complete implosion in the (current) Tory party.

Despite how I voted I don't think they will be able to ignore the continuously falling exchange rate, share prices etc and not do something to protect the interests of the corporate world (which, in reality, tends to be our interests too as they pay our wages in one way shape or form), even if it means career suicide.

Ho hum.

I don't think that will happen. The Tory party wold be in 10 times the chaos Labour are currently in, within 24 hours. It will be more subtle than that. They may well try to leave us with one foot in and one foot out though, to try to pleas everyone to some extent and end up pleasing no-one.
Aka - the good old British compromise.
I hope I'm wrong and Theresa turns out to be the next Thatcher and wipes the floor with every "wet" in sight.  :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 16:06:15
Camoron to resign on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 July 2016, 16:28:10
Camoron to resign on Wednesday.

I think this is better than pissing about until September for a new Tory leader/PM.

With a bit of luck Tessie will have Article 50 signed by Friday. ::) ::) ;)

No going back then. :y
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 16:31:34
Camoron to resign on Wednesday.

I think this is better than pissing about until September for a new Tory leader/PM.

With a bit of luck Tessie will have Article 50 signed by Friday. ::) ::) ;)

No going back then. :y
I'm past caring now  ;D
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2016, 16:52:54
Snap General Election while the Labour Party are in chaos anyone?  ::)  :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: aaronjb on 11 July 2016, 17:20:57
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Labour and the Liberal Dems demand a snap general election

According to some news source..
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 17:24:59
Why the fick would a general election be called? We are already in chaos, why make it worse?
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: aaronjb on 11 July 2016, 17:29:10
Because they are all throwing their toys out of the pram like the spoilt, petulant children they really are?
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Entwood on 11 July 2016, 17:48:22
They all seem to have forgotten the Act of Parliament they passed. deliberately, to STOP sudden unplanned elections.... as they were totally pissed off at losing one so badly when they expected to win ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

Perhaps they need to actually KNOW what they vote for ... mind you .. they voted for Corbyn originally, which might explain a lot ....  :)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 July 2016, 18:26:04
They all seem to have forgotten the Act of Parliament they passed. deliberately, to STOP sudden unplanned elections.... as they were totally pissed off at losing one so badly when they expected to win ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

Perhaps they need to actually KNOW what they vote for ... mind you .. they voted for Corbyn originally, which might explain a lot ....  :)

It's unlikely I agree but there are provisions in the Fixed Term Parliaments Act for early elections, such as a vote of no confidence in the government for example.  ;)
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: STEMO on 11 July 2016, 18:29:55
They all seem to have forgotten the Act of Parliament they passed. deliberately, to STOP sudden unplanned elections.... as they were totally pissed off at losing one so badly when they expected to win ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed-term_Parliaments_Act_2011

Perhaps they need to actually KNOW what they vote for ... mind you .. they voted for Corbyn originally, which might explain a lot ....  :)

It's unlikely I agree but there are provisions in the Fixed Term Parliaments Act for early elections, such as a vote of no confidence in the government for example.  ;)
Highly unlikely, no matter how small the majority.
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Rods2 on 12 July 2016, 02:30:19
I'm sure steady Eddie, Toxic Theresa will see through #Brexit as she understands the end of democracy in the UK if she doesn't!  :o :o :o Although most of us dislike politicians, most MPs in Parliament do understand the importance of history and the evolving 800 years of democracy from the signing by King John of the Magna Carta in 1215 at Runnymede. This defines our long standing strong institutions, political and legal processes and the rule of law. :y :y :y If you were designing the system, it would be nothing like, but hey, it works and we are one of the very richest and best countries in the world. :y :y :y

If you are a realist, you understand what the EU is and isn't and without democratic processes, nobody can hold them to account, like we can UK politicians. :( :( :(

What us plebs understand is we must obey laws, democracy holds those accountable to us who make them on our behalf, in the EU dictatorship you could not vote them in or out and the laws will be decided on the basis of what is best for them. If you want to know more Goggle "EU oligarchis capture through lobbying" and you will understand the corporatism of the EU. Crony capitalism and snouts in the trough all round! :( :( :(
Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Mister Rog on 12 July 2016, 07:33:23
Call me a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if an 'event' happens that leads the Government to overrule the referendum result in the 'national interest'.  :-X

I'm absolutely sure that's what will happen - whether or not that's likely to trigger a complete implosion in the (current) Tory party.

Despite how I voted I don't think they will be able to ignore the continuously falling exchange rate, share prices etc and not do something to protect the interests of the corporate world (which, in reality, tends to be our interests too as they pay our wages in one way shape or form), even if it means career suicide.

Ho hum.

I don't think that will happen. The Tory party wold be in 10 times the chaos Labour are currently in, within 24 hours. It will be more subtle than that. They may well try to leave us with one foot in and one foot out though, to try to pleas everyone to some extent and end up pleasing no-one.
Aka - the good old British compromise.
I hope I'm wrong and Theresa turns out to be the next Thatcher and wipes the floor with every "wet" in sight.  :)

Jean-Claude Juncker will not let that happen, he's made that clear. He's a major reason for the Brexit vote, and his attitude since makes it almost impossible for UK not to press on. If the UK were to somehow back down on Brexit, Junker and the EU would crap on us from a great height.

Title: Re: Andrea Loathsome has quit the race
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 July 2016, 09:25:05
Despite all the rhetoric, they want our money. The Germans in particular. Juncker has no real power. Merkel runs the EU.