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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: citroenguy on 14 July 2016, 11:12:05
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A question on the same topic as the Scenic discussion a couple of weeks ago.
On many Fords and Volvos, Focus, Mondeo, c-max,s-max etc and Volvo C30/S40/V50 you have to remove the flippin throttle pedal ??? to change the cabin air filter. Is it the same silly solution on RHD examples?
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No although its usually a glove box out job
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It's not silly at all. These cars are designed for the LHD market (i.e. the majority) and in that instance the pollen filter is under the glovebox. If people insist on driving on the left, then a steering wheel and a set of pedals have to be installed in front of it.
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I think you got me a bit wrong stemo ;), on lhd examples you have to remove the pedal. I when I replaced one of these, I thought "this must be much easier on a uk spec V50.
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I think you got me a bit wrong stemo ;), on lhd examples you have to remove the pedal. I when I replaced one of these, I thought "this must be much easier on a uk spec V50.
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Our Renault megane had the pollen filter under the pedals on the left hand side of the car as you look at it from the front. The dealer explained that, on the continent, the glove box would be there and that is why the pollen filter was on that side.
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Location of the pollen filter on SWMBO's Citroen C3 is about its only redeeming feature .... under the bonnet remove a small cover, slide one out, slide the other along and then slide it out. 60 secs max for both :y
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Location of the pollen filter on SWMBO's Citroen C3 is about its only redeeming feature .... under the bonnet remove a small cover, slide one out, slide the other along and then slide it out. 60 secs max for both :y
Old Picasso was the same,piece of P :y
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Another example of why the 'stupid/impractical' executive car the the Omega is/was completely trounces new metal in the practicality stakes.
Set kettle boiling.
Lift bonnet, lift flap, plop new one in, shut bonnet
Wait for kettle to finish boiling, make cup of tea. :)
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Another example of why the 'stupid/impractical' executive car the the Omega is/was completely trounces new metal in the practicality stakes.
Set kettle boiling.
Lift bonnet, lift flap, plop new one in, shut bonnet
Wait for kettle to finish boiling, make cup of tea. :)
And, while you're in there, do the weekly clean of the breathers, egr and throttle body. Also make sure the hbv hasn't wet itself.
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Cynicism? Surely not! :D
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No although its usually a glove box out job
Ive never had to take the glove box out to change a pollen filter.....and ive changed them on every car ive had that's had aircon.
They've always been behind the glovebox, taking the sound deadening cover that's underneath the glovebox, usually held in by a couple clips has always given access to it :)
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Another example of why the 'stupid/impractical' executive car the the Omega is/was completely trounces new metal in the practicality stakes.
Set kettle boiling.
Lift bonnet, lift flap, plop new one in, shut bonnet
Wait for kettle to finish boiling, make cup of tea. :)
And, while you're in there, do the weekly clean of the breathers, egr and throttle body. Also make sure the hbv hasn't wet itself.
And change the passenger side spark plugs, or replace wornout plug leads. Hell, 'just' fit a new DISpack. Flush the heater matrix? Rear wheel bearing? ATF check/topup/replacement due to the lack of a dipstick?
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Oooh, mean! :D
I was astonished at a mates new C Class (P reg) and how easy everything easy laid out in the engine bay, looked like a servicing joy. 2.3 litre but so much room in the engine bay.
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Oooh, mean! :D
I was astonished at a mates new C Class (P reg) and how easy everything easy laid out in the engine bay, looked like a servicing joy. 2.3 litre but so much room in the engine bay.
Designed for a V8 ;)
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Ahhh, it does look it, actually. Viva HC was the same (well, V4) absolutely nothing but a big space, with an engine somehwere in the middle. I swear there was more luggage space under the bonnet than in the boot! :)
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Nowhere near as easy as my triumph herald. Hinge the whole front end up and climb in with the engine.
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Ahhh, it does look it, actually. Viva HC was the same (well, V4) absolutely nothing but a big space, with an engine somehwere in the middle. I swear there was more luggage space under the bonnet than in the boot! :)
There is something nice about working on an old car.
I used to love changing the points on my old Triumph.
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Ahhh, it does look it, actually. Viva HC was the same (well, V4) absolutely nothing but a big space, with an engine somehwere in the middle. I swear there was more luggage space under the bonnet than in the boot! :)
There is something nice about working on an old car.
I used to love changing the points on my old Triumph.
Good job too, considering it was a weekly event :D
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Nowhere near as easy as my triumph herald. Hinge the whole front end up and climb in with the engine.
Every car should have a similar system. Genuis idea, which I'm sure could be made to work today, even with all the safety malarky. The MINI does have a similar affair, actually, with its headlamps and bonnet all-in-one.
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Nowhere near as easy as my triumph herald. Hinge the whole front end up and climb in with the engine.
Every car should have a similar system. Genuis idea, which I'm sure could be made to work today, even with all the safety malarky. The MINI does have a similar affair, actually, with its headlamps and bonnet all-in-one.
'Twas a bit hairy on a windy day. ;D
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Nowhere near as easy as my triumph herald. Hinge the whole front end up and climb in with the engine.
Every car should have a similar system. Genius idea, which I'm sure could be made to work today, even with all the safety malarky. The MINI does have a similar affair, actually, with its headlamps and bonnet all-in-one.
It's OK on a small car, but hardly genius. Just like all front hinging bonnets, working at the front of the engine compartment is a pain. Making such a large 'structure' fit properly isn't easy either, even on an E-type getting the panel fit to stay right is difficult; on the notoriously floppy small Triumphs it is largely a waste of time.
Hinging the bonnet at the scuttle is the most practical option, especially if it's propped up with gas struts. The last five cars I had without them were soon converted.
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My old Renault 5 GT Turbo had a front hinged bonnet. About the first thing you did every time you worked on it was unbolt the damn thing*
*OK, I did that once. Snapped all the tiny little M6 studs off and it was forever more held on by bonnet pins.. that made removal much easier although I did look a bit of a pillock doing it in South Mimms services ;D
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ah, but older BMWs Saabs, and a fair few others used to proudly have front hinged bonnets, which I believe was a rallying-derived idea, in case the catch fails, you don't get wind tearing the thing up into your windscreen. Just look at the vast number of modded chavmobiles with 'racing style' catches on the bonnet, the VXR-brigade seem to live in constant paranoia of the bonnet whipping up! :D :D
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Having done this job as a cough cough 'professional' :-X :-X :-X for almost 2 years now I have changed filters on a lot of cars now.
Removing the glove box is quite common to get to the filters. Eg Astras, Hondas, nissans etc. however I find that its the difficulty of removing the glove box that gets you.
Some Hondas you simply open glove box, press in glove box sides and flip down revealing your prize. The aforementioned Astra g has 4 torx. Pull GB out, disconnect courtesy gb light and again your prize is there. Insignias (iirc) is the same but you have to pry off the side panel to get to a stupid hidden screw.
The easiest filter ever is ironically a pegouet (307, maybe 308, can't remember). But you open the bonnet and the filter you can see in the scuttle area, no parts to remove, pick up old filter and fit new. 20 second job!!!
Mazda and fords of 06 (perhaps?) vintage you have to drop the fuse box in passenger footwell, remove 2 x 13mm to remove fuse box holding bracket then bend your arm in 3 different directions at the same time to get to the 5.5mm bolts. Time consuming but not too bad.
I could go on.....so I will.....
The worst pollen filter in the world is the Renault grand scenic. Clutch pedal out. Steering column dropped with its cowling. Remove prt of centre console and you JUST have enough access to get the filter out. But if that wasn't bad enough the filter is twice the size of the housing. Utterly stupid.
Shitroen c3 and pugs with the 1.6hdi engine (ie most of them) have a nice pull out plastic cover. Easy.
The Renault capture had a surprisingly easy one in the pass foot well.
Easiest though in general over the make range is vw and Audi. Pass foot well. Pull down foam cover. Pull out plastic cover. Old out new in. Bish bash bosh
Any more info needed I'll be here all week ;D
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Oh and bmw ones good. Big panel right over the top of the scuttle. 6 x 8mm bolts. Done. :y
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Oh and bmw ones good. Big panel right over the top of the scuttle. 6 x 8mm bolts. Done. :y
Except that the E39 has two of them ::)
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Oh and bmw ones good. Big panel right over the top of the scuttle. 6 x 8mm bolts. Done. :y
Except that the E39 has two of them ::)
And E63/64 .. despite the "service kit" I bought only coming with one of them.
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Any why did they change from simple clips to about a dozen little screws for the Air Filter cover on Omegas? [in a Peter Kay style - ] "what were that all about?" :)
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Any why did they change from simple clips to about a dozen little screws for the Air Filter cover on Omegas? [in a Peter Kay style - ] "what were that all about?" :)
Garlic. On toast. Whatever next ::)
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Oh and bmw ones good. Big panel right over the top of the scuttle. 6 x 8mm bolts. Done. :y
Except that the E39 has two of them ::)
Yeah. Many variations. Corsa d today. Easy pass foot well.