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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 25 July 2008, 13:25:28
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Has anyone ever seen The Army at War Tunisia and Egypt paper books? almost like a newspaper...
My Dad has given me these old papers and they are full of the pictures of the areas.. I have never seen pictures like these ever at all.
The Egypt one has the date 1943..
also in the stuff Dad has given me is his dad's Movement Order from 26th Feb 1945 with his number etc...
A couple of things on this movement order I have posted below..
Pay:
(a) You will recieve 2 weeks NETT pay before leaving the unit.
(b) No lire can be taken into the UK. All Lire will be collected by the Officer i/c draft at Naples Transit Camp for exchange.
(c) Only £10 sterling (4,000 Lire) can be taken into the UK. All amounts of excess of this wil be exchanged by the Officer and a reciept obtained for the 'surplas cash' from the paymaster.
(d) IN UK. You will recive 14 days NETT pay plus ration allowance (present 3/4d per day).
VD. Means return to Unit and NO leave to UK
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I have some small black and white pictures at home which I really should scan in.
They were taken by my Grandad as he fled from Dunkirk across france and have shots of him and some of his fellow men.
He made his way to the Bay of Biscay where there were two coal ships destined for the Uk, he missed the first one and one of the pics is of it being torpeedoed in the bay!
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I am going to see if I can get my grandads service records... I also have scanned some pictures he took whilst abroad...
What regiment was your Grandad in?
8th Army my grandad was in... I will post a few of the old pictures on later...
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i'd be interested to know how you get on, and how you go about getting hold of service records; my grandfather is no longer with us but served throughout the war and while i have photos of him in uniform (even though he hated wearing it he got married in it!) i don't know too much about his activities during that time.
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Generation gap. My father was in the 8th Army throughout WWII and took part in the D-day landings. Since he was so short-sighted he couldn't see his hand in front of his face without his specs, he wasn't one of the front-line fighting soldiers, but he was in the Ordnance Corps and he kept the fighting men supplied with guns and ammunition.
He was married in uniform, and was still in the army when I was born eight months after VE Day.
I've got his medals somewhere. :)
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My dad was in 3 corp Carpathian rifles.
Have a few bits and pieces i.e paybook,cap badge(white eagle)unit badge.
Cassino cross (with certificate)some photos from the time,one of which shows Polish soldiers around the Cassino monument they erected.
And an aliens book,he had to report to the local police station,every week i think,to let them know where he was living,working etc.
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my x wifes great grandmother who died 2 yrs ago was 109, she was the nanny to the tzar of russias children before the revolution whatever yr it was, she fled with the only remaining child to africa where she lived for a few yrs, she then worked for the duke and duchess of windsor when he abdicated his throne. after that she retired and moved to harlesden, north london where she lived next door to the police station. production companies and the bbc wanted to film her life but she refused saying her life was private and personal. my x has a fantastic collection of stamp books from around the world, she has russsian jewellery dating back a 100 yrs and one of the first bottles of coke produced unopened in the loft. the police used to keep an eye on her and look after her, they went in her house 1 day and found her on a step ladder painting the ceiling, she was 96 at the time ;D ;D ;D, what a life she must of had and been through so many wars throughout her life
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i have a book of speech transcripts just before the outbreak of the ww2 by all the heads of countries, interesting ready from the lying scheming politicians................. :o
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my x wifes great grandmother who died 2 yrs ago was 109, she was the nanny to the tzar of russias children before the revolution whatever yr it was, she fled with the only remaining child to africa where she lived for a few yrs, she then worked for the duke and duchess of windsor when he abdicated his throne. after that she retired and moved to harlesden, north london where she lived next door to the police station. production companies and the bbc wanted to film her life but she refused saying her life was private and personal. my x has a fantastic collection of stamp books from around the world, she has russsian jewellery dating back a 100 yrs and one of the first bottles of coke produced unopened in the loft. the police used to keep an eye on her and look after her, they went in her house 1 day and found her on a step ladder painting the ceiling, she was 96 at the time ;D ;D ;D, what a life she must of had and been through so many wars throughout her life
1917 the revolution:y
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Reading this has made me remember my grandad and the very little he spoke about what he went through during WWII.
Looking back its kinda ironic that he spent time in the Philippines (my wife is Filipino) and wasnt until he was leaving manila bay his ship was torpedoed by the japs....think from memory there were 600 on-board...less than a dozen survived only to be captured and sent to work on the Burma railway after spending time in changi.
Even after everything he went through he never once had a bad word too say about the japanese....""They were simply doing as they were ordered"" he would say...different breed of people back then,people with backbones and courage.!
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The Sphinx in 1941 ? Must have been almost brand new back then !
You want to get some archive quality wallets for those -- to help preserve them. Don't use ordinary wallets or paper -- the acids in them will damage the pics
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I have to admit My Grandad died when I was 11, and now miss not being able to talk to him about the things they went through... but like you say I remember him saying he got his medals for running away, and that he was in the film Montys Double :) but realise now that it is nothing further from the truth :(
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my neighbour was a Sargent in the artillery (at 19years old) and has loads of photos but wont show them to anyone that wasn't in the war, a sort of brothers in arms thing .Just getting him to admit he was in the army is an achievement
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my neighbour was a Sargent in the artillery (at 19years old) and has loads of photos but wont show them to anyone that wasn't in the war, a sort of brothers in arms thing .Just getting him to admit he was in the army is an achievement
My grandfather never said a word to anyone about the war (1st WW) after he came back --- just would never talk about it at all -- even to his sons, who were active in WW2
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i only found out so much because his wife told me about him, but he wont be drawn in to speaking about it at all. which when i sat and thought about it, is fair enough.
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my father was in the 8th army in Egypt and then he had to go to Italy and fight at Monte Casino he is now 88 and in all my years he has not talked about it once to me but he has started to talk to his grandson about it but its still a very sensative subject for him and even though my father dont allways see eye to eye on most things he knows i am very proud of him and what he done so i could have a life
my deepest respect to everyone who defended our country then and now
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Your right it does make you feel proud.
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(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/NiceBillet.jpg)
We're off on holiday to the Naples area next week, and I have to drive past Torre del Greco to get to our apartment. I'll try to get some pictures of what it looks like today. Doubt if I'll be able to manage the same point of view - he must have been on a boat. Should be interesting, if I remember. :) Not back until mid-August, though, so it may take some time to unearth this thread.
Pity I can't send a postcard...
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Great be intresting to see what difference between the two pictures :y
Just need to search for WW2 :y
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my father was in the 8th army in Egypt and then he had to go to Italy and fight at Monte Casino he is now 88 and in all my years he has not talked about it once to me but he has started to talk to his grandson about it but its still a very sensative subject for him and even though my father dont allways see eye to eye on most things he knows i am very proud of him and what he done so i could have a life
my deepest respect to everyone who defended our country then and now
Here here !
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Some pictures I scanned I don't suppose you will be as impressed as me but here it goes :y
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/Tel-el-Kebir1941.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/SphinxEgypt1941.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/Egypt1941.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/Egypt.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/DesertRoad1941.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/AnconaSenigallia1944.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/AnconaHarbourItaly1943.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/Egypt1942.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/NiceBillet.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/NiceRimini.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s304/Loo-knee/SenigalliaItaly1944.jpg)
looking back on things like this makes you wonder what it was like, especially if a relative is invloved, i did notice there wasnt any speed cameras anywhere, can you imagine a tank trying to park anywhere, opens the hatch and theres a ticket on the front ;D ;D ;D ;D
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As VX Omegas are built in Germany, it's not wise to mention the war :(
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For those interested in military history and records, have a peek here:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/militaryhistory/