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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: omega2018 on 24 July 2016, 23:51:47

Title: boot lock saloon
Post by: omega2018 on 24 July 2016, 23:51:47
a car was broken into in our street friday - side window smashed.  has anyone taken steps to lock the boot so that the rear seats cannot be pulled forward and entry gained to the boot after smashing a window?  i'm thinking of a simple bolt lock, set with the boot lid open:
(http://www.diydoctor.org.uk/project_images/Shedlock/brenton-bolt-and-keep.jpg)
probably 3 or 4 of them.  it might at least slow down theft of boot items.
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 July 2016, 09:38:15
Really sorry to read this. I'd be dancing round the house in a fury 48 hours later, no mistake if that were me.  >:( >:( any help, give us a shout.


Though I appreciate the idea of the bolt, the ski-hatch/load through facility could be opened, and anyone reach round inside the boot, pull the dead bolt undone anyway. (I know they'd have to know they're there in the first place, but it could be done, is my only thought.)

 :(

Despise hearing peoples cars being broken into.
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: mandula on 25 July 2016, 10:22:36
Just a tought:

Could it be possible to drill holes behind the back seats where the opening buttons of the back seats are and block those buttons to be pressed down by inserting a pin or something into drilled holes? (Simple thing hard to express with my english  ::) )
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 July 2016, 10:54:07
Fully understand, and a very good idea, actually.  :)
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Tick Tock on 25 July 2016, 11:12:29
Reading the OP, states 'a car' and not necessarily Migmogs?

Usual reason for breaking into a car is to take something on view, but also understand the reason to be vigilant. Perhaps extra security may never be needed..... Mandula's suggestion seems fairly straightforward  :y
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 July 2016, 11:49:26
How do you propose to access the boot if the lock fails?

Might as well fit deadbolts to the passenger doors whilst you're at it...
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: omega2018 on 26 July 2016, 01:05:43
How do you propose to access the boot if the lock fails?

Might as well fit deadbolts to the passenger doors whilst you're at it...

standard central clocking system already has that - second press ::)

Please read the manual:

 "Central locking system,
mechanical anti-theft locking system
Locking
All doors must be closed, the driver’s door
must hav e been opened once previously;
press button p on the remote control
again within 10 seconds after lock ing
– or –
turn key in d river's door lock towards rear
of vehicle again within 10 seconds after
locking, then turn it back to the vertical
position and remove.
Lock buttons on all doors are positioned
such that doors cannot be opened.

Do not use the system if there are people
in the vehicle! The d oors cannot be
unloc ked from inside."

duh.
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 July 2016, 16:06:30
No shit Shylock...
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: zirk on 26 July 2016, 16:16:40
How do you propose to access the boot if the lock fails?

Might as well fit deadbolts to the passenger doors whilst you're at it...

standard central clocking system already has that - second press ::)

Please read the manual:

 "Central locking system,
mechanical anti-theft locking system
Locking
All doors must be closed, the driver’s door
must hav e been opened once previously;
press button p on the remote control
again within 10 seconds after lock ing
– or –
turn key in d river's door lock towards rear
of vehicle again within 10 seconds after
locking, then turn it back to the vertical
position and remove.
Lock buttons on all doors are positioned
such that doors cannot be opened.

Do not use the system if there are people
in the vehicle! The d oors cannot be
unloc ked from inside."

duh.
I think the question was 'How do you propose to access the boot if the lock fails?'

ie you cant fold the seats down to access the Boot release latch.
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 July 2016, 16:23:06
...
Though I appreciate the idea of the bolt, the ski-hatch/load through facility could be opened, and anyone reach round inside the boot, pull the dead bolt undone anyway. (I know they'd have to know they're there in the first place, but it could be done, is my only thought.)...

Not with an effing great LPG cylinder in the way, it couldn't. ;)
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 July 2016, 17:06:28
There's also the technical difference between a deadlock and a deadbolt ::)

Final paragraph in manual is also technically inaccurate  :-X

Fair point Kevin re LPG tank, but arguably a solution could be implemented as part of the planning the installation ;)
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: zirk on 26 July 2016, 17:29:09
Some of the Ex Plod cars Ive come across have had some interesting ways of restricting the rear passenger from accessing the boot (ie, Gun Cabinet), probably the most effective one was when you fold the rear seats down your faced with a steel sheet thats bolted to and blocking access to the boot.
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: Entwood on 26 July 2016, 17:32:23
There's also the technical difference between a deadlock and a deadbolt ::)

Final paragraph in manual is also technically inaccurate  :-X

Fair point Kevin re LPG tank, but arguably a solution could be implemented as part of the planning the installation ;)

it has been done .. 2008 ... http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=63096 looks like the links to all the photo's no longer work .. and I don't have the originals anymore.

Simply put .. a puppy training/extending lead positioned behind the seat with the lead tied to the manual release pull. If the lock fails, drop the seat and pull the extending lead to open. If interested I'll take some more piccies

EDIT .. now found the originals .. I'll see if I can put them up ...

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot6db6.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot4yu7.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot2sl2.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot3zc1.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot8ry4.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot11jr4.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85356592/boot12ws0.jpg)


:)
Title: Re: boot lock saloon
Post by: BazaJT on 26 July 2016, 18:28:50
I like that idea,saves groping about blind trying to get to internal boot release!