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Title: carbon clean
Post by: jacko on 28 July 2016, 20:39:18
hi all.

yesterday I took the plunge and had the engine cleaned with nitrogen put into the air intake.

fantastic the emissions are now a third of what they were and the car has so much more pull is quitter and smother.
have gained about 15 hp I think was wondering if any one else has had this done  :y
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Shackeng on 28 July 2016, 22:49:57
Hmmm, sounds too good to be true, but then I am just an old cynic.:-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: flyer 0712 on 28 July 2016, 22:54:42
where did you get that done and at what cost....if that aint a rude question.. :y
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: biggriffin on 29 July 2016, 06:17:33
hi all.

yesterday I took the plunge and had the engine cleaned with nitrogen put into the air intake.

fantastic the emissions are now a third of what they were and the car has so much more pull is quitter and smother.
have gained about 15 hp I think was wondering if any one else has had this done  :y


If it's gained 15hp, then there will be a line of oof'ers and every other car owning person there.

HP costs money and a 15hp gain. I'm with shakeng on this.
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: jacko on 29 July 2016, 07:26:17
that is only 15 hp regained of its 150hp that it has lost over 100 k.

it was £99.00 worth every penny a marked difference in performance

a company called carbon clean

01444318901
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 July 2016, 08:10:18
Sounds very dodgy, most of the air pulled into the intake under normal running is Nitrogen anyway.

If its done any sort of decoke then you could achieve the same with a good run on decent fuel or even by using the small breather to suck water in at revs.

Just looked, its Hydrogen not Nitrogen so its simply increasing the cylinder temps, that's real easy to achieve by normal means  :y
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: tunnie on 29 July 2016, 08:59:40
Magic Beans spring to mind  ::)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 July 2016, 10:31:04
Ive heard fish fart, and seen the bubbles.  :)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 29 July 2016, 10:48:24
I currently run my engine on 78% nitrogen through the intakes.  :)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Tick Tock on 29 July 2016, 11:59:11
This engine cleaning system was used by Ed China on a recent repeat of Wheeler Dealers. It did give better results, although I guess there are other cheaper and easier ways to get the same results.  :y
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 July 2016, 12:07:03
Magic Beans spring to mind  ::)

You'll need to sell the cow first. :)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 July 2016, 13:14:15
Magic Beans spring to mind  ::)

If its raising cylinder temps (hydrogen is likely to do that but there will still need to be oxygen present!) then deposits will get burnt off, if your doing lots of short journeys then yes you may notice a difference.

But you could do the same by blanking the EGR and going for an hours drive.....

Or small quantities of water into the inlet is pretty good at steam cleaning the internals!

But it wont clean the inlet, may clean the cat out a bit with the raised exhaust temps (but again a good drive with EGR blanked will do the same)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: tunnie on 29 July 2016, 13:17:39
Magic Beans spring to mind  ::)

If its raising cylinder temps (hydrogen is likely to do that but there will still need to be oxygen present!) then deposits will get burnt off, if your doing lots of short journeys then yes you may notice a difference.

But you could do the same by blanking the EGR and going for an hours drive.....

Or small quantities of water into the inlet is pretty good at steam cleaning the internals!

But it wont clean the inlet, may clean the cat out a bit with the raised exhaust temps (but again a good drive with EGR blanked will do the same)

Thanks.  :y

Almost sounds like a DPF re-gen cycle, but for the combustion area?  :-\

Raise the temp to burn off the crap, so worth it more on diesels than petrol?
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2016, 13:18:02
Sounds very dodgy, most of the air pulled into the intake under normal running is Nitrogen anyway.

If its done any sort of decoke then you could achieve the same with a good run on decent fuel or even by using the small breather to suck water in at revs.

Just looked, its Hydrogen not Nitrogen so its simply increasing the cylinder temps, that's real easy to achieve by normal means  :y
Mr DTM. You have looked into the cylinders/head of the Silver Bullet's probably more times than you care to remember ::).  Any sign of enough carbon deposits to cause power loss, despite its 230k miles ?
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Nick W on 29 July 2016, 13:50:28
Mr DTM. You have looked into the cylinders/head of the Silver Bullet's probably more times than you care to remember ::) .  Any sign of enough carbon deposits to cause power loss, despite its 230k miles ?


Unless both the engine and the management system are utterly oppsed, there won't be any. The days of coked-up valves and heavy deposits on pistons are long gone.


Squirting snake oil into the inlet tract is the same old Wallet Overthickness Adjustment that it always was.
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 July 2016, 14:50:12
Sounds very dodgy, most of the air pulled into the intake under normal running is Nitrogen anyway.

If its done any sort of decoke then you could achieve the same with a good run on decent fuel or even by using the small breather to suck water in at revs.

Just looked, its Hydrogen not Nitrogen so its simply increasing the cylinder temps, that's real easy to achieve by normal means  :y
Mr DTM. You have looked into the cylinders/head of the Silver Bullet's probably more times than you care to remember ::).  Any sign of enough carbon deposits to cause power loss, despite its 230k miles ?

Squeeky clean but, yours does get a good regular spank. :y

Short journeys would give some carbon build up
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2016, 14:53:26
Squeeky clean but, yours does get a good regular spank. :y
I try occasionally :P.

Being more serious for a minute, on the same subject, with all other things being the same, would fart gas be more or less likely to coke it up (assuming tunnie borrowed it for short journeys), or indifferent.
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: jacko on 29 July 2016, 17:14:45
they are all short journeys 15 min drives, not been out of town in the last 20 k :)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Shackeng on 29 July 2016, 17:55:19
Magic Beans spring to mind  ::)

If its raising cylinder temps (hydrogen is likely to do that but there will still need to be oxygen present!) then deposits will get burnt off, if your doing lots of short journeys then yes you may notice a difference.

But you could do the same by blanking the EGR and going for an hours drive.....

Or small quantities of water into the inlet is pretty good at steam cleaning the internals!

But it wont clean the inlet, may clean the cat out a bit with the raised exhaust temps (but again a good drive with EGR blanked will do the same)

IIRC Wg Cdr Vallis invented the Valjector to do exactly that about 50 years ago! :y
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: X30XE on 29 July 2016, 19:10:59
Mr DTM. You have looked into the cylinders/head of the Silver Bullet's probably more times than you care to remember ::) .  Any sign of enough carbon deposits to cause power loss, despite its 230k miles ?


Unless both the engine and the management system are utterly oppsed, there won't be any. The days of coked-up valves and heavy deposits on pistons are long gone.


Squirting snake oil into the inlet tract is the same old Wallet Overthickness Adjustment that it always was.

Unless you own a modern BMW that is  ::)
Title: Re: carbon clean
Post by: Jimbob on 30 July 2016, 09:01:36
Remember Decent fuel and occasional cleaners can be all that is required....
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