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Title: High milers
Post by: frostbite on 25 August 2016, 07:33:33
I have just recently rolled 100k.  :'(

Probably due to going upto scotland and southport the latter being about 4 times then back to dover

Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 25 August 2016, 08:24:28
Bah that's nothing, Some on here are well over 200k mine included! (Not sure about over 300k?) Wish I had a mear 100k  ;D
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 August 2016, 08:48:46
100k is hardly run in. These cars can take galactic mileage if looked after.Mine has covered 172k and looks and drives close to a brand new car.  :)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 August 2016, 09:01:58
Mine's got about 243k on it.  :)

My Beemer by comparison is has very low miles for it's 17 years at about 117k!  :y
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 August 2016, 09:38:30
Even my mum bus is on 167k
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Nick W on 25 August 2016, 09:38:54
I have just recently rolled 100k.  :'(

Probably due to going upto scotland and southport the latter being about 4 times then back to dover

At less than half the average mileage, your 19 year old car would be considered very low mileage by people who care about such things.
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Mister Rog on 25 August 2016, 09:39:26
Unfortunately I'm not . . . . . . .

Ah, sorry, I thought you said mile highers   ;)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 09:45:03
 :D :D



Just turned over to 186,000 last night after topping up on Tesco's finest Ultimatum. I now consider her 'run in'  ;D
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: neil74 on 25 August 2016, 12:26:13
Mine's creeping up to the 116000 mark soon.
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: gav mv6 on 25 August 2016, 13:07:17
mines 181,000 but what is the limit for  3.0 v6 engines  before its knackered ?
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 13:29:23
mines 181,000 but what is the limit for  3.0 v6 engines  before its knackered ?


There isn't one. Do all the service items as recommended, and they will plug on and on and on. If the head gasket eventually fails (rarer than many engines) well, replace the HG... even a catastrophic timing failure requires replacing the heads, but there's plenty on here who would replace the cyl heads in an afternoon without blinking. Was in a taxi the other week in Poland, which had done some 250k, and felt no less tight or less worn out than my old girl. And I'm sure there's plenty I've replaced with new/good low-mileage 2nd hand which the Polski taxi driver won't have. But it plugged on very nicely, lots of worn trim, but the ride and engine never missed a beat.
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 25 August 2016, 13:31:18
mines 181,000 but what is the limit for  3.0 v6 engines  before its knackered ?


There isn't one. Do all the service items as recommended, and they will plug on and on and on. If the head gasket eventually fails (rarer than many engines) well, replace the HG... even a catastrophic timing failure requires replacing the heads, but there's plenty on here who would replace the cyl heads in an afternoon without blinking. Was in a taxi the other week in Poland, which had done some 250k, and felt no less tight or less worn out than my old girl. And I'm sure there's plenty I've replaced with new/good low-mileage 2nd hand which the Polski taxi driver won't have. But it plugged on very nicely, lots of worn trim, but the ride and engine never missed a beat.

Well, a days work..... :y
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: X30XE on 25 August 2016, 13:31:42
mines 181,000 but what is the limit for  3.0 v6 engines  before its knackered ?


There isn't one. Do all the service items as recommended, and they will plug on and on and on. If the head gasket eventually fails (rarer than many engines) well, replace the HG... even a catastrophic timing failure requires replacing the heads, but there's plenty on here who would replace the cyl heads in an afternoon without blinking. Was in a taxi the other week in Poland, which had done some 250k, and felt no less tight or less worn out than my old girl. And I'm sure there's plenty I've replaced with new/good low-mileage 2nd hand which the Polski taxi driver won't have. But it plugged on very nicely, lots of worn trim, but the ride and engine never missed a beat.

I hope you gave him a good tip!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 13:43:05
We actually did!  :y


Very odd culture, every taxi ride they tipped us....ie: if the fare was say 32.30, we've give them 40 in notes, and they'd just shrug and 'call it 30.00' kind of thing. We had a good natter with Mr Omega Taxi (neither one of us speaking the other's language) and was a very pleasant chap, I was able to tell it was a 94/5 car by the trim differences. He looked at the wad of notes we paid him like a refugee that'd received his first clean change of clothes, it was really sweet, I think he was flattered. Out of the half-dozen Merc Taxis that week we rode in the Omega was the smoothest, and the highest mileage.  :)

Said 'please use this to spend keeping the Omega on the road'  :)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: gav mv6 on 25 August 2016, 14:04:02
yes thanks m i thought they will go on and on as long as looked after , ive had mine since it was on 68,000 so im gonna refresh the engine over and put it one of my other cars  :)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: frostbite on 25 August 2016, 15:26:45
Well at least it still kind of low. I think it was on 92k when I got the car

It nothing like my old bmw, that was a 95' with 57k when I got it in 08'
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 15:37:30
The famous one I've spoke on on OOF many a time was a FL V6 with 37k on the clock in the scrapyard. As mint a bodyshell as you'd expect for a car on that mileage. Engine didn't have so much as a layer of dust on it. That was last year, these things happen.  :'(
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Nick W on 25 August 2016, 16:25:52
The famous one I've spoke on on OOF many a time was a FL V6 with 37k on the clock in the scrapyard. As mint a bodyshell as you'd expect for a car on that mileage. Engine didn't have so much as a layer of dust on it. That was last year, these things happen.  :'(


None of that means anything; it could still need the front suspension rebuild, cambelt replacement, trans fluid change, plus assorted oil and water leaks that most new-to-you Omegas do. You could spend close to £1k in parts  just to see how reliable it might be. That's assuming nothing had actually broken to put it there.
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 16:28:58
True. It was well-maintained, though. Breather pipes were very clean, TB etc.. ok, ignoring all the mechanicals the shell itself was a timewarp. As you say it's highly likely it was in the scrappy due to a timing belt failure, due to one piece of very poor maintenance. But trust me, it was a very nice Omega. You know, was  :D ;D
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 16:42:51
My '54 ex plod managed 280K, still going strong as far as I know... Original engine, box and diff... 8)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Diamond Black Geezer on 25 August 2016, 16:54:34
Yep, they just go on and on, seemingly indefinitely. The super-high-mileage maladies/things that need doing seem to be

oil changes on the box and diff
crank seal
oil pickup clogged
fried old crank sensor
ABS ECU

these are things that can/should be worked on much earlier of course, but these are the things that tend to occur at the stratospheric end of the mileage spectrum. But as for the engines 'just dying' through being completely worn out, it doesn't seem to be an issue. No wheezy valves, low compression ratio, cracked blocks, warped heads, stuffed manifolds all the things that many engines fail on through the natural wastage of time. In spite of being not brilliant for tuning, and known to be a bit 'boring' they're racking up the miles very very well in the twighlight years when many a contemporary engines are dying around them...
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: gav mv6 on 25 August 2016, 17:02:20
Yep, they just go on and on, seemingly indefinitely. The super-high-mileage maladies/things that need doing seem to be

oil changes on the box and diff
crank seal
oil pickup clogged
fried old crank sensor
ABS ECU

these are things that can/should be worked on much earlier of course, but these are the things that tend to occur at the stratospheric end of the mileage spectrum. But as for the engines 'just dying' through being completely worn out, it doesn't seem to be an issue. No wheezy valves, low compression ratio, cracked blocks, warped heads, stuffed manifolds all the things that many engines fail on through the natural wastage of time. In spite of being not brilliant for tuning, and known to be a bit 'boring' they're racking up the miles very very well in the twighlight years when many a contemporary engines are dying around them...

im going to replace all the seals and gaskets whenits removed from the car , its also still got the original oil cooler still in the engine too
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 August 2016, 17:38:33
Mine never had the oil cooler go, diff and box oil was original too... Might have had a box rear seal done, but can't remember  :-[

Serviced every 10K from new... Oil extra jobs were standard Omega items... Wishbones, donuts, shocks, coil packs, cam covers, crank sensor, Hbv, header tank and exhaust... All pretty routine, an as far as Omegas go, all essentially service items 8)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2016, 18:03:07
231k on the MV6, 117k on the Elite.

(And 116k on the Battlebus, meaning all 3 of my cars are over 100k :o)
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 August 2016, 18:05:41
Omega is on 172k, other car is on 226k. Its taken 26 years to get there, so below average miles, theoretically.
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: TD on 25 August 2016, 18:28:32
My 4yo Ford is on 140k.....so just run in really...

Which reminds I must take it for a service....the 'service me' light has been on for about the last 3 to 4 weeks  ::)
I think its gonna need new front disks shortly as I'm starting to get brake judder breaking at 70mph.
Oh and I think one of the components in the engine bay has a bearing going.....there some background noise when its idling that never used to be there...
And I had 4 new tyres fitted last service and I have notice the OSF is wearing quicker than the NSF but its all over even wear, so not sure what would be causing that....it doesn't pull to one side....the only thing I have noticed that when I go into a certain supermarket car park that has a ninety degree concrete down ramp the tyres squeal when im on full right hand lock  :-\
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2016, 18:34:21
the only thing I have noticed that when I go into a certain supermarket
LOL, just had flashbacks to AA's "A funny thing happened at the supermarket" from several years ago ;D
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: TD on 25 August 2016, 18:44:26
the only thing I have noticed that when I go into a certain supermarket
LOL, just had flashbacks to AA's "A funny thing happened at the supermarket" from several years ago ;D

Oh yeah .... I remember that too  ;D ;D
And then I remember when I had the same problem the vx dealer lied to me and told they had changed the cam sensor, when clearly they hadn't  >:( >:( as you diagnosed the problem  :y
I never did go back and ram the old cam sensor up the jacksie of the service manager.....but wish I had.....
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: gav mv6 on 25 August 2016, 19:14:29
only issue ive noticed is she drips a little oil , but pretty sure its either sump or front crank seal which i will replace so not to shabby for the millage  which is why i cant bear to part with it . :'( 
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: Scatmancraig on 25 August 2016, 19:35:41
I know someone with a manual PFL 2.5 TD that recently turned over 335k.  Mine is on just under half that at 164k.  Highest mileage car I've owned, albeit very briefly, was a Senator 3.0 24v auto that was on 249k.  I sold it to a fellow OOF member, think it was on well over 300k by the time it was finally scrapped.

I'd much rather have a high-miler that has been properly maintained than a low miler that hasn't......
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: TheBoy on 25 August 2016, 22:03:53
the only thing I have noticed that when I go into a certain supermarket
LOL, just had flashbacks to AA's "A funny thing happened at the supermarket" from several years ago ;D

Oh yeah .... I remember that too  ;D ;D
And then I remember when I had the same problem the vx dealer lied to me and told they had changed the cam sensor, when clearly they hadn't  >:( >:( as you diagnosed the problem  :y
I never did go back and ram the old cam sensor up the jacksie of the service manager.....but wish I had.....
Blimey, yes, I remember that now.  Poor starting, and Tech2 clearly showed the P0340 code :y

Friggin' dealers  >:(
Title: Re: High milers
Post by: ffcgary1 on 29 August 2016, 18:55:45
116,000 on my tourer now, apart from the oil leak, :-[ and a noisey lifter, it runs fine, oil service every 5000 without fail. :y