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Title: Great fire
Post by: BazaJT on 04 September 2016, 09:16:33
I see they're commemorating the anniversary of the great fire of London of 1666 by releasing some special stamps and they've made a 120ft wooden structure representing London which they're going to set fire to and float down the Thames......What can possibly go wrong? :D :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 04 September 2016, 10:43:13
Whose bonkers idea was that?

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: TheBoy on 04 September 2016, 10:43:37
Burning London to the ground and rebuilding it sounds like a fine plan.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 04 September 2016, 11:13:19
Not a bad idea, TB, for getting rid of the awful buildings there nowadays, but there are also some magnificent ones that would be sorely missed. Could the fire that yopu plan to start be selective in what it destroys?
Maybe, on rebuilding London, we could have much wider streets for ease of transit, no congestion and free parking wherever we wanted?

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 September 2016, 11:33:54
Burning London to the ground and rebuilding it sounds like a fine plan.

The Luftwaffe did all they could to help. :)
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 04 September 2016, 16:48:03
Got back from London yesterday went to see the Motown story which was excellent, but the city is an absolute mess with roadworks & building work in progress counted 27 cranes from our hotel window.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 September 2016, 16:55:04
Got back from London yesterday went to see the Motown story which was excellent, but the city is an absolute mess with roadworks & building work in progress counted 27 cranes from our hotel window.

That's a good thing!  :y

When you can see no cranes or construction activity, it means that the Four Horsemen of the BREXIT Apocalypse are on their way with the Grim Reaper and a plague of locusts in tow!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 04 September 2016, 17:37:56
MOST of the disruptive roadworks are due to our valuable, paid-for road space being stolen to be used for cycle lanes, increasing congestion and delays on a daily basis even when completed.

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 September 2016, 17:40:05
MOST of the disruptive roadworks are due to our valuable, paid-for road space being stolen to be used for cycle lanes, increasing congestion and delays on a daily basis even when completed.

Ron.

All that taxpayers money and disruption and the bastards carry on riding on the pavement anyway!  :o  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Rods2 on 05 September 2016, 03:46:52
Burning London to the ground and rebuilding it sounds like a fine plan.

I can see the headline: "Brackley's garage pyromaniac visits south for 1666 London's burning ABBA 'pop-techno-pyromania' concert and tragic reenactment saga"! ::) ::) ::) ::) :o :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: aaronjb on 05 September 2016, 12:29:05
Not a bad idea, TB, for getting rid of the awful buildings there nowadays, but there are also some magnificent ones that would be sorely missed.

Trouble is, nobody would agree on what should be saved ;) For me I'd want the Southbank Centre to be saved in all it's concrete brutalist glory, while many others would love to see it torn down.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 05 September 2016, 16:45:12
Yes, I agree that consensus would be difficult or impossible, but surely who could deny the beautiful old Victorian buildings the right to exist? I have in mind such places as the Natural History Museum, Royal Albert Hall - you know the ones.
Blots on the landscape? Things like the Gherkin, the Shard and that carbuncle that Prince Charles hated so publicly!

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Nick W on 05 September 2016, 17:29:10
Yes, I agree that consensus would be difficult or impossible, but surely who could deny the beautiful old Victorian buildings the right to exist? I have in mind such places as the Natural History Museum, Royal Albert Hall - you know the ones.
Blots on the landscape? Things like the Gherkin, the Shard and that carbuncle that Prince Charles hated so publicly!



But it's not as if all of the Victorian or Regency or whatever buildings are worth bothering with. All of those societies, including mid twentieth century Britain, would be horrified by the backward looking attitude of today.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 September 2016, 17:43:15
Yes, I agree that consensus would be difficult or impossible, but surely who could deny the beautiful old Victorian buildings the right to exist? I have in mind such places as the Natural History Museum, Royal Albert Hall - you know the ones.
Blots on the landscape? Things like the Gherkin, the Shard and that carbuncle that Prince Charles hated so publicly!



But it's not as if all of the Victorian or Regency or whatever buildings are worth bothering with. All of those societies, including mid twentieth century Britain, would be horrified by the backward looking attitude of today.

Yes, there is a narrow street behind the seafront here with an empty plot.  A planning application has been submitted for 2 modern townhouses and there's a right old hoo haa about it.  ;D  It seems they all want some sort of mock Georgian building so it's 'In Keeping'  ::)

Here's the thing though, the architects design is not really that radical and he's obviously anticipated the response and has tried to design something that blends in, but not enough obviously....  :( 

It think it's a plot that would be an excellent place for a modern contemporary 'Grand Design', but no, it has to be 'In Keeping' and I expect the architect will have to go back to his drawing board after the old Fuddie Duddies on the Town Council have had their say....  ::)
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: zirk on 05 September 2016, 18:28:32
which they're going to set fire to and float down the Thames......What can possibly go wrong?

Just hope they dont forget to tell the Local's again, I know a few people that are still recovering from when they blew the Bus up for that Jackie Chan Film and no one nearby knew jack shit what was going on.  ::)


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/77f0f062c3f8a91d2fd6d71f1a925020e968e370/0_0_5184_3109/master/5184.jpg?w=620&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=74c981ad0ba32f664673f5552e460cc4)
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 05 September 2016, 19:46:38
Nick W, we are on the same page, really; there are some atrocious examples of victoriana not worth considering, but apart from the buildings I mentioned earlier, St. Pancras Station is a thing of beauty and ground-breaking in its day. I won't go on as MY list won't be your list, but the reason why we are so backward-looking, as you suggest, is that there ain't much to look forward to!
Modern architecture is in thrall to the accountants and has little of beauty to commend it; sorry.

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 September 2016, 19:55:21
which they're going to set fire to and float down the Thames......What can possibly go wrong?

Just hope they dont forget to tell the Local's again, I know a few people that are still recovering from when they blew the Bus up for that Jackie Chan Film and no one nearby knew jack shit what was going on.  ::)


(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/77f0f062c3f8a91d2fd6d71f1a925020e968e370/0_0_5184_3109/master/5184.jpg?w=620&q=20&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&dpr=2&s=74c981ad0ba32f664673f5552e460cc4)

"You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"  :o  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Nick W on 06 September 2016, 11:54:38

Yes, there is a narrow street behind the seafront here with an empty plot.  A planning application has been submitted for 2 modern townhouses and there's a right old hoo haa about it.  ;D   It seems they all want some sort of mock Georgian building so it's 'In Keeping'  ::)

Here's the thing though, the architects design is not really that radical and he's obviously anticipated the response and has tried to design something that blends in, but not enough obviously....  :( 


That's my problem with this sort of thing, as the Georgians would have welcomed the modern building and encouraged updating the old ones to fit in!


I like old stuff, especially if it's still in use. But if we have to make or build something, it should use the materials, techniques and design thinking of now.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 September 2016, 18:50:12
Not a bad idea, TB, for getting rid of the awful buildings there nowadays, but there are also some magnificent ones that would be sorely missed.

Trouble is, nobody would agree on what should be saved ;) For me I'd want the Southbank Centre to be saved in all it's concrete brutalist glory, while many others would love to see it torn down.
Burn everything inside the M25. Anything left standing can remain, the rest left fallow, and good riddance  :D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: zirk on 06 September 2016, 21:22:26
Burn everything inside the M25. Anything left standing can remain, the rest left fallow, and good riddance  :D

Thats a bit harsh......shame on you......inside North and South Circular will do, dont want the smell of burnt bodies anywhere around here.  ;D
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Bigron on 06 September 2016, 21:43:08
You want to destroy my childhood memories, Dr. Gollum? Shame on you.....just you wait until 5th. November and we will see how well YOU burn!

Ron.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Mister Rog on 06 September 2016, 22:01:12
I see they're commemorating the anniversary of the great fire of London of 1666 by releasing some special stamps and they've made a 120ft wooden structure representing London which they're going to set fire to and float down the Thames......What can possibly go wrong? :D :D :D ;D

Going back to the original topic, and ignoring any comments about the goods and bads of architecture

I watch some of the programme and got bored sh**tless with it's arty farty approach. I was hoping for some good and interesting factual information. But no.
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: ronnyd on 06 September 2016, 23:39:37
I see they're commemorating the anniversary of the great fire of London of 1666 by releasing some special stamps and they've made a 120ft wooden structure representing London which they're going to set fire to and float down the Thames......What can possibly go wrong? :D :D :D ;D

Going back to the original topic, and ignoring any comments about the goods and bads of architecture

I watch some of the programme and got bored sh**tless with it's arty farty approach. I was hoping for some good and interesting factual information. But no.
That, i,m afraid, is exactly how the Beeb is going these days. ???
Title: Re: Great fire
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 September 2016, 23:52:27
You want to destroy my childhood memories, Dr. Gollum? Shame on you.....just you wait until 5th. November and we will see how well YOU burn!

Ron.
Tongue firmly in cheek ::) :-X I can't stand the place... consequently, I never go there ;)