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Title: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: STEMO on 15 September 2016, 18:05:49
Had a new front door and frame, back door and frame and new french windows put in today. Three lads arrived at 8:15 and got straight into it. They were gone by 13:15, took all the old stuff away, made good around the insides and left no mess.
Happy  :)

And with it being Barnsley, very reasonable price too.
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Tick Tock on 15 September 2016, 18:22:52
It's amazing how much damage plod can make when they want to get in quickly!
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: RobG on 15 September 2016, 18:28:05
Had a new front door and frame, back door and frame and new french windows put in today. Three lads arrived at 8:15 and got straight into it. They were gone by 13:15, took all the old stuff away, made good around the insides and left no mess.
Happy  :)

And with it being Barnsley, very reasonable price too.
If it was UPVC being fitted, 3 blokes, 5 hours. Dragged their heels did they ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: STEMO on 15 September 2016, 19:42:33
Had a new front door and frame, back door and frame and new french windows put in today. Three lads arrived at 8:15 and got straight into it. They were gone by 13:15, took all the old stuff away, made good around the insides and left no mess.
Happy  :)

And with it being Barnsley, very reasonable price too.
If it was UPVC being fitted, 3 blokes, 5 hours. Dragged their heels did they ;D
UPVC frames with composite doors, heavy bastids  :o
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: biggriffin on 15 September 2016, 21:30:37
Had a new front door and frame, back door and frame and new french windows put in today. Three lads arrived at 8:15 and got straight into it. They were gone by 13:15, took all the old stuff away, made good around the insides and left no mess.
Happy  :)

And with it being Barnsley, very reasonable price too.
If it was UPVC being fitted, 3 blokes, 5 hours. Dragged their heels did they ;D
UPVC frames with composite doors, heavy bastids  :o

Old bill don't like composite doors, difficult to tap open with a knocker, they've started to use disc cutters.
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Mister Rog on 15 September 2016, 22:24:38

I like it when workmen do it right

So do I   . . . . . .  ;)
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Nick W on 15 September 2016, 23:25:05


Old bill don't like composite doors, difficult to tap open with a knocker, they've started to use disc cutters.




Does that mean they're fitted with more than a few frame anchors and half a can of foam?
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 September 2016, 10:39:50
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: STEMO on 16 September 2016, 13:18:05
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.
I didn't stand watching them it's rude, and my strategically placed mirrors plan fell down when the dog threw a wobbler and I had to shut the living room door.  ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: RobG on 16 September 2016, 18:39:58
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.
Toe & heeling a window
(http://upvcwindowsbolton.co.uk/img/toe_heel_lg.gif)
Easiest way to hang a composite door is to place a blue packer under the hinge side of the cill, or door frame is door is face drained with no cill
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Mr Gav on 16 September 2016, 20:15:39
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.
Toe & heeling a window
(http://upvcwindowsbolton.co.uk/img/toe_heel_lg.gif)
Easiest way to hang a composite door is to place a blue packer under the hinge side of the cill, or door frame is door is face drained with no cill

In English please  ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: RobG on 16 September 2016, 20:40:17
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.
Toe & heeling a window
(http://upvcwindowsbolton.co.uk/img/toe_heel_lg.gif)
Easiest way to hang a composite door is to place a blue packer under the hinge side of the cill, or door frame if door is face drained with no cill

In English please  ;D
Some doors/windows have "concealed" drainage whereby the slots are routered under the bottom of the actual frame hence the need for a cill. Doors/windows that are "face" drained have slots in the bottom front face of the frame which are shielded from view by "drainage caps"
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Nick W on 16 September 2016, 20:41:27
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.


Because like anyone paid by piecework, they have figured out how to do it just good enough to keep the boss and customer happy.


And I'd be more concerned about each stay being attached with 3(4 on a big one) self-tapping screws into uPVC than a theoretical weight transfer.


Gav, face drained means that any water that makes it past the gaskets around the sealed-units drains out of slots cut in the lower front face of the door leaf(the bit you open ;) )
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: RobG on 16 September 2016, 20:45:53
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.


Because like anyone paid by piecework, they have figured out how to do it just good enough to keep the boss and customer happy.


And I'd be more concerned about each stay being attached with 3(4 on a big one) self-tapping screws into uPVC than a theoretical weight transfer.


Gav, face drained means that any water that makes it past the gaskets around the sealed-units drains out of slots cut in the lower front face of the door leaf(the bit you open ;) )
Stainless steel self-cutting screws are used primarily as the majority of "decent" Pvcu windows are reinforced with galvanised steel or aluminium
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: RobG on 16 September 2016, 20:47:42
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.


Because like anyone paid by piecework, they have figured out how to do it just good enough to keep the boss and customer happy.


And I'd be more concerned about each stay being attached with 3(4 on a big one) self-tapping screws into uPVC than a theoretical weight transfer.


Gav, face drained means that any water that makes it past the gaskets around the sealed-units drains out of slots cut in the lower front face of the door leaf(the bit you open ;) )
Wrong Nick, the drainage slots are in the face of the actual frame :)
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Nick W on 16 September 2016, 21:05:52
Bet they didn't pack the frames correctly plus get them truly square and level......yet to see a window fitter do this, they seem to lack the basic understanding with a  window as to where the weight transfer is.


Because like anyone paid by piecework, they have figured out how to do it just good enough to keep the boss and customer happy.


And I'd be more concerned about each stay being attached with 3(4 on a big one) self-tapping screws into uPVC than a theoretical weight transfer.


Gav, face drained means that any water that makes it past the gaskets around the sealed-units drains out of slots cut in the lower front face of the door leaf(the bit you open ;) )
Stainless steel self-cutting screws are used primarily as the majority of "decent" Pvcu windows are reinforced with galvanised steel or aluminium


That will depend on the maunfacturer, as I got several bollockings for buying stainless screws to replace steel ones. Apparently, it messed up their figures, and I was the only one who thought it acceptable to send a service-engineer every couple of years to replace rusty screws on sea facing windows.


It's been a long time, but these things had a grip length of about 6mm, so weren't long enough to usefully penetrate the reinforcement.
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: STEMO on 16 September 2016, 22:03:50
So.....will my doors sag, twist.....or just fall off their hinges?  ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 September 2016, 22:11:53
So.....will my doors sag, twist.....or just fall off their hinges?  ;D

Quite clearly you're forked Uncle STEMO!  ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: STEMO on 16 September 2016, 22:14:32
So.....will my doors sag, twist.....or just fall off their hinges?  ;D

Quite clearly you're forked Uncle STEMO!  ;D
Someone will be along in a minute to tell me my warranty is not worth the paper it's written on. Oh well...... ;D
Title: Re: I like it when workmen do it right
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 September 2016, 22:19:43
So.....will my doors sag, twist.....or just fall off their hinges?  ;D

Quite clearly you're forked Uncle STEMO!  ;D
Someone will be along in a minute to tell me my warranty is not worth the paper it's written on. Oh well...... ;D

Well if you will buy pattern shite.....  ::)  ;D