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Title: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: southend tony on 02 October 2016, 20:19:31
I got a disc from the previous owner for the navi system and tried to get it working but the disc player wont recognise it. After using a disc player cleaner i tried some normal cd's and it picked them up but it still refused to even acknowledge that there was a disc in the player where the nav cd was concerned.

The disc looks quite worn tbh and looks like the original one that came with the car.  i wondered where i could find a replacement for it. Its not the all singing colour display (unfortunatly) just the basic style jobbie.

Cheers for any advice in advance peeps ☺
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: zirk on 02 October 2016, 20:25:25
You could put a wanted ad on here, otherwise ebay (Germany), needs to be real one and not a copy otherwise it will f7&*k your laser, if thats not already been done.

You could try a Music CD in the Nav Slot and see if its plays, need to switch the CDC button to play, but thats no real guarantee the laser is working as it should.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: tunnie on 02 October 2016, 20:27:52
Laser will be extremely tired, even when mine works it will spit the CD out each morning. Due to condensation on the disc, more so in winter. Lack of full postcode is a real bore. Mine would often spit CD out mid routing.

Better off with just a Tom Tom or Google Nav on your phone.  :y
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: southend tony on 02 October 2016, 20:32:11
Cheers guys. Will have a look on ebay but will dig out the old garmin for the time being. Back to round marks on the screen again i guess lol.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: zirk on 02 October 2016, 20:35:44
Download Here Maps for your phone, works well and is up to date, plus has the benefit of downloading Free Map Data so you dont need the Internet, handy if you got an old phone kicking around doing nothing.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2016, 08:29:35
Laser will be extremely tired, even when mine works it will spit the CD out each morning. Due to condensation on the disc, more so in winter. Lack of full postcode is a real bore. Mine would often spit CD out mid routing.
Well its a pretty simple fix, even if the laser is £30

Better off with just a Tom Tom or Google Nav on your phone.  :y
As we all know, even a 16yr old proper built in system will easily outperform the latest gizmo wank handheld unit by some considerable margin. And has the advantage that you can't throw it out of the window.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Nick W on 03 October 2016, 09:13:12

As we all know, even a 16yr old proper built in system will easily outperform the latest gizmo wank handheld unit by some considerable margin. And has the advantage that you can't throw it out of the window.

Well, you know that. Most of us disagree.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2016, 09:18:40

As we all know, even a 16yr old proper built in system will easily outperform the latest gizmo wank handheld unit by some considerable margin. And has the advantage that you can't throw it out of the window.

Well, you know that. Most of us disagree.
Which of course everyone is entitled to do.

However, the disagreers on here cite functionality as the reason for disagreeing, not basic performance and accuracy.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Mr Gav on 03 October 2016, 10:10:48
Download Here Maps for your phone, works well and is up to date, plus has the benefit of downloading Free Map Data so you dont need the Internet, handy if you got an old phone kicking around doing nothing.

I`ve only used Here Maps twice and never again, first time it took me on a 10 mile, 30 minute journey that had I known the exact destination I could have done in two miles and around five minutes ( I only had a post code to work with)
Second time was last week when I had to go to the head office in Manchester from York, a simple journey on the A64, M1 and then M62 but Here Maps didn`t want to use e the M62 instead it wanted to carry on down the M1 towards Sheffield and then use the A roads to Macclesfield and then on to Manchester  :o
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: tunnie on 03 October 2016, 10:23:10

As we all know, even a 16yr old proper built in system will easily outperform the latest gizmo wank handheld unit by some considerable margin. And has the advantage that you can't throw it out of the window.

Well, you know that. Most of us disagree.
Which of course everyone is entitled to do.

However, the disagreers on here cite functionality as the reason for disagreeing, not basic performance and accuracy.

I've found Google Nav far superior in every way, it will update route based on traffic on the fly. Accuracy has never once been an issue, far quicker to use too. I find it clearer for motorway slip
Roads, which lane to be in for filters. Also updates for new road inter-sections are instant.

Given last discs were made ~2004 maybe tad later, its very out of date. Which impacts performance and accuracy :)
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: TheBoy on 03 October 2016, 13:42:29
Accuracy has never once been an issue
So never driven through tunnels, or heavily wooded areas, or cities with high buildings?  Take it to Canary Wharf, and then report back.

Mind you, as you'll struggle to get a usable cellular signal in many areas, Google's Navigation tools aren't the best to be using for any comparison ;D

Given last discs were made ~2004 maybe tad later, its very out of date. Which impacts performance and accuracy :)
Really?  So the 2012 ones I have in all 3 of mine are a figment of my imagination ;D.

Silly me....
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: tunnie on 03 October 2016, 14:18:05
Accuracy has never once been an issue
So never driven through tunnels, or heavily wooded areas, or cities with high buildings?  Take it to Canary Wharf, and then report back.

Mind you, as you'll struggle to get a usable cellular signal in many areas, Google's Navigation tools aren't the best to be using for any comparison ;D

Given last discs were made ~2004 maybe tad later, its very out of date. Which impacts performance and accuracy :)
Really?  So the 2012 ones I have in all 3 of mine are a figment of my imagination ;D.

Silly me....

Ah, so only 4 years out of date then  :P

Google Nav worked perfectly fine on my route to Aberystwyth University few weeks back, right through arse end of noware, zero signal/position problems, drove through some lovely scenic roads with big trees and even bigger hills  :D

In-fact the piss-poor radio reception in the 3.2 gave out many times, but Navigation was fine.  :P
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 October 2016, 14:31:27

As we all know, even a 16yr old proper built in system will easily outperform the latest gizmo wank handheld unit by some considerable margin. And has the advantage that you can't throw it out of the window.

Well, you know that. Most of us disagree.
Which of course everyone is entitled to do.

However, the disagreers on here cite functionality as the reason for disagreeing, not basic performance and accuracy.
Some people think buying new/nearly new saves them money... ::)

One in every village... :D
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Magwheels on 03 October 2016, 19:30:58
Got to agree the original is a pile of poo compared to anything this decade but it is cute, tidy and does get you there........eventually, as long as you have a road name! The lack of post code, certain place names and traffic is just a minor oversight. ::)
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Mr Gav on 03 October 2016, 19:56:33
Got to agree the original is a pile of poo compared to anything this decade but it is cute, tidy and does get you there........eventually, as long as you have a road name! The lack of post code, certain place names and traffic is just a minor oversight. ::)

I`ve been driving a Seat Leon for the past week while my new company van gets delivered and stickered up and that doesn`t have post code search either which I found odd for a 65 plate.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 October 2016, 22:35:19
If anyone is unhappy wtih their NCDC 2013 / CID, feel free to remove it and send it to me. I want one.  ;D
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: TheBoy on 04 October 2016, 21:08:27
Got to agree the original is a pile of poo compared to anything this decade but it is cute, tidy and does get you there........eventually, as long as you have a road name! The lack of post code, certain place names and traffic is just a minor oversight. ::)

I`ve been driving a Seat Leon for the past week while my new company van gets delivered and stickered up and that doesn`t have post code search either which I found odd for a 65 plate.
The Ibiza does, but like all VAG tosh, isn't that straightforward. Cant imagine the Leon is any different
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: tunnie on 04 October 2016, 21:21:18
Full postcode in VW, tap Nav, tap postcode. Bash postcode in and press go.

So yeah, really complicated.  ;D
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Mr Gav on 04 October 2016, 22:06:25
Full postcode in VW, tap Nav, tap postcode. Bash postcode in and press go.

So yeah, really complicated.  ;D

Seat Leon.... tap nav then you have a choice of city, town and street name, no post code option on the screen and none of the other options lead me to a post code input either.

It`s gone back now otherwise I would have taken a photo of the screen.

Got the new van now anyway and no satnav to worry about  ;D
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 October 2016, 14:33:31
Got to agree the original is a pile of poo compared to anything this decade but it is cute, tidy and does get you there........eventually, as long as you have a road name! The lack of post code, certain place names and traffic is just a minor oversight. ::)

I`ve been driving a Seat Leon for the past week while my new company van gets delivered and stickered up and that doesn`t have post code search either which I found odd for a 65 plate.
The Ibiza does, but like all VAG tosh, isn't that straightforward. Cant imagine the Leon is any different
Typical behaviour for the smug badge molesting self-abusers :-X
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: TheBoy on 05 October 2016, 18:40:56
Full postcode in VW, tap Nav, tap postcode. Bash postcode in and press go.

So yeah, really complicated.  ;D
Yes, you'll be surprised how many struggle with it.  Exactly the same system as what's in yours. All all other post 12 VAGs


Personally, I still struggle to see the point in postcodes. If I've had to enter road name, at least I know what I'm looking for, thus not having to rely completely on technology. And it must take a whole second or so more...
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Mr Gav on 05 October 2016, 21:25:52
Full postcode in VW, tap Nav, tap postcode. Bash postcode in and press go.

So yeah, really complicated.  ;D
Yes, you'll be surprised how many struggle with it.  Exactly the same system as what's in yours. All all other post 12 VAGs


Personally, I still struggle to see the point in postcodes. If I've had to enter road name, at least I know what I'm looking for, thus not having to rely completely on technology. And it must take a whole second or so more...

Post codes are handy when the sat nav doesn`t recognise the road name either, with no option for post code I had to resort to putting the town name (Irlam) and the the road name (Huntsman Drive) but after entering the H and u it only gave one road and it wasn`t Huntsman Drive so I had to rely on memory.
It`s a strange system that Highlights all letters to start with and then as you enter more letters there are less that are highlighted, after I`d entered H and u only an r was highlighted so I was unable to enter the n and there was no way of just typing the road name in, in full  :-\
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Nick W on 06 October 2016, 00:44:52

Personally, I still struggle to see the point in postcodes. If I've had to enter road name, at least I know what I'm looking for, thus not having to rely completely on technology. And it must take a whole second or so more...

The Post Office designed postcodes to enable no more than 8 characters to refine an address search to a few house numbers. That eliminates the common problem of finding the right address in the wrong town. It's an efficient system that has worked for over fifty years, far longer than GPS maps have used it.
Having tried GPS that doesn't use postcodes, such obsolete systems should be put to sleep.
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Lazydocker on 06 October 2016, 10:11:43

Personally, I still struggle to see the point in postcodes. If I've had to enter road name, at least I know what I'm looking for, thus not having to rely completely on technology. And it must take a whole second or so more...

The Post Office designed postcodes to enable no more than 8 characters to refine an address search to a few house numbers. That eliminates the common problem of finding the right address in the wrong town. It's an efficient system that has worked for over fifty years, far longer than GPS maps have used it.
Having tried GPS that doesn't use postcodes, such obsolete systems should be put to sleep.

Except I recently used a postcode and ended up in a road of the same name in the next village (1.5 miles or so) which I was then told happens all the time :-\
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Entwood on 06 October 2016, 10:43:59

Personally, I still struggle to see the point in postcodes. If I've had to enter road name, at least I know what I'm looking for, thus not having to rely completely on technology. And it must take a whole second or so more...

The Post Office designed postcodes to enable no more than 8 characters to refine an address search to a few house numbers. That eliminates the common problem of finding the right address in the wrong town. It's an efficient system that has worked for over fifty years, far longer than GPS maps have used it.
Having tried GPS that doesn't use postcodes, such obsolete systems should be put to sleep.

Which was fine 50 years ago when it was designed .. there's a village not so far from me where a single postcode covers a road 3 1/2 miles long .. which originally only had about 5 houses on it, now has over 50, and none of them numbered .. all named (posh village) ... thats a bit of a bugger ... :(

Also, large business district on the outskirts of swidnod .. single post code covers 3 different business estates of about 80 different companies !!

:)
Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: zirk on 06 October 2016, 11:32:15
Except I recently used a postcode and ended up in a road of the same name in the next village (1.5 miles or so) which I was then told happens all the time :-\

That happens to me quiet a lot, in fact more and more as years go on, and you dont necessarily have to be out in the sticks for it to happen.

Problem with Post Codes is they change or more commonly get updated on daily basis, so your only as good as your last update, unlike a National Grid Reference which will never change. Post Codes are just that, a system originally designed for the Royal Mail sorting office with the first 4 digits given a good indication of where something is for someone in the know.

Personally I never understood why we dont use the NGR System, ok, asking someone to remember there Lat and Long is probably pushing it, but a 10 digit NGR is accurate to 10 cm anywhere in the UK, it can shortened to 8,6,4 digits very easerly, a 6 Digit NGR is accurate to 10m which is smaller than your average size House, and it can be found with a Sat Nav or just using a Map / A to Z and a pencil.

You often hear horror stories of Emergency Vehicles driving up and down country lanes to to find somewhere using Navi's, I would have thought to get an Ambulance within 10 m of a NGR of where it needs to be is pretty much job done.

Title: Re: another niggling problem regarding the bose navi system disc
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 October 2016, 18:48:15
Rural postcodes can be measured in hectares :D which doesn't help when every village and their dog has a London Road...

Urban postcodes are often individual buildings, but certainly no more than one side of a block ;)