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Title: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Dusty on 28 July 2008, 19:11:38
Just watched the evening news , and was happy to discover that another Labour backbencher has made it known that he thinks Gordon Brown should resign.

Close allies of Gordon Brown have come to his defence, but really is it viable that he should stay , considering the poor performance of the Labour party in Glasgow East bi-election.

I think that for the sake of the Labour party it would be wise for Gordon Brown to resign. Although I don't know if a replacement would be any better.

On the other hand if the Tories win the next election I don't think they would be any better :(

What a dilemma. No wonder the voting has declined over the years :-/

 :-* :-*
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Markie on 28 July 2008, 19:13:28
He should go.

I fear our country may NEVER recover from the Monetary policy of the last 10-15 years.
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: psychnurse on 28 July 2008, 19:14:44
Deffo!! Burn him!! :y

and that Blair creature that must take some of the flack!!  >:(
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: HolyCount on 28 July 2008, 19:30:41
TBH there's no alternative --- GB is a known blunder --- DC has just got the "I" and the "K" missing (think about it !) -- Lib Dems ?? Who IS in charge now ????

Mind you -- they have not (never??) been in power -- could they really do worse ???

What to do ????

Best bet would be to find some way to get a coalition government
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: psychnurse on 28 July 2008, 19:34:37
I looked on moster raving loony website recently.... some bleeding good ideas too  :y
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: psychnurse on 28 July 2008, 19:35:28
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I looked on moster raving loony website recently.... some bleeding good ideas too  :y



Like instead of an 'ASBO' call it the pink fluffy award  ;D
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 July 2008, 20:09:54
I avoid politics like the plague. A:- it bores me sh*tless, dull grey people talking about other dull grey people. B:- No matter who gets voted in (which Brown was'nt) they break it all up & blame eachother like a bunch of schoolkids. I do'nt vote, i know unused votes go to someone or other so we all should but i just do'nt bother myself with it.
 Sick & tired of politicians droning on, it has no bearing on my little life. I live in a little house, do a little job, have done for years, will continue to do so for years yet regardless of what they all do. Leave 'em to it..anoraks.
    Only regret is that we pay for them to waste time, money & bore us all to death. ho Hum!!! ::)
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Gaffers on 28 July 2008, 20:12:35
I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: LJay on 28 July 2008, 20:13:42
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I avoid politics like the plague. A:- it bores me sh*tless, dull grey people talking about other dull grey people. B:- No matter who gets voted in (which Brown was'nt) they break it all up & blame eachother like a bunch of schoolkids. I do'nt vote, i know unused votes go to someone or other so we all should but i just do'nt bother myself with it.
 Sick & tired of politicians droning on, it has no bearing on my little life. I live in a little house, do a little job, have done for years, will continue to do so for years yet regardless of what they all do. Leave 'em to it..anoraks.
    Only regret is that we pay for them to waste time, money & bore us all to death. ho Hum!!! ::)

here, here!! Well said that man! Come here to escape politics!!! >:(
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Jimbob on 28 July 2008, 20:17:34
Just dont ask what Jaime yelled when he lowered my windows as we passed his Lady bitsry retreat yesterday
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 July 2008, 20:21:02
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: waspy on 28 July 2008, 20:29:40
Guy Forkes  :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Gaffers on 28 July 2008, 20:29:55
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 July 2008, 21:03:56
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(
Fair go, think i understand enough to understand so to speak!
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Gaffers on 28 July 2008, 21:08:31
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(
Fair go, think i understand enough to understand so to speak!

 :y :y :y :y

For the highest levels they search out and interview your schoolmates and family....... ouch  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 July 2008, 21:19:53
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(
Fair go, think i understand enough to understand so to speak!

 :y :y :y :y

For the highest levels they search out and interview your schoolmates and family....... ouch  :o :o :o
Should the powers that be need a reference i'm more than happy to.....maybe not. Would'nt further your cause would it??? :D
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: HolyCount on 28 July 2008, 21:32:50
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(

LOL -- I remember in a past job, every now and then we used to get a PV form to fill in, asking stoopid questions to make sure we were still "security worthy". Anyway -- in a silly moment I answered, "Have you any pending criminal actions outstanding?" ( or words to that effect) with "Don't know"  (Weeell ... you never know whats going to arrive on the doorstep).

The reaction was somewhat akin to asking a policeman at Heathrow if it was OK to take the machine gun on board the plane !!!!!

Mind you -- they were also miffed that I answered "Sex?" with "Yes, please"

Won't be doing that again !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Gaffers on 28 July 2008, 21:35:35
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I widh I could air my views in this forum.......  ::) ::) ::) ::)


......pretty rather obvious though, eh?  ;D ;D
Sure you can if you choose your words carefully i understand not everyone shares my slack approach to life...air your views...go on...go on!!! :D ;D :y

Not worth the grilling at my next security clearance interview  :'(

LOL -- I remember in a past job, every now and then we used to get a PV form to fill in, asking stoopid questions to make sure we were still "security worthy". Anyway -- in a silly moment I answered, "Have you any pending criminal actions outstanding?" ( or words to that effect) with "Don't know"  (Weeell ... you never know whats going to arrive on the doorstep).

The reaction was somewhat akin to asking a policeman at Heathrow if it was OK to take the machine gun on board the plane !!!!!

Mind you -- they were also miffed that I answered "Sex?" with "Yes, please"

Won't be doing that again !!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 July 2008, 21:41:49
Go, go, he should never have been there in the first place!
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: HolyCount on 28 July 2008, 21:43:16
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Go, go, he should never have been there in the first place!

VERY true -- none of the electorate voted for him !!!!
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: albitz on 28 July 2008, 21:48:04
He is obviously a lame duck, but what happens if they oust him ? it will be Harriet Harman or Jack Straw until the electon -doesnt bear thinking about  :(
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: amigov6 on 28 July 2008, 23:34:15
Who cares?, Really it makes precious little difference. Jeremy Vine's already turned R2's lunchtime slot into his own politics show, if droning was an olympic event he'd win us a gold. terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired. Trying not to rant but i'm sick to back teeth of it.
     Not on here PLEASE. :o :(
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Danny on 28 July 2008, 23:49:42
if he goes, who replaces him?

and whoever replaces him.. will they clean up his mess?

can they spend our tax payers money where it's genuinely needed so they dont need to charge us so much on fuel?

(still selling the omega no matter what happens with tax!)
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: FRE07962128 on 29 July 2008, 02:03:19
The dilema for Labour is if they get rid of Brown they should call an immediate General Election after selecting a new leader, as they can hardly continue, or survive to govern with a second unelected  Prime Minister and drastically falling majorities in the House. But if they call a General Election now they WILL loose, but if they soldier on until 2009/10 they will still loose, but all the Cabinet members can enjoy their salaries for another two years. :P

What would you do if one of those ministers? Don't forget to answer as a politican with all those "special qualities" ( ::) ::) ::) ::)) that they possess! :D :D ::)

As for avoiding Politics Amigo, I appreciate your feelings, but there is nothing you can do to avoid the affects of Politics in everything you do, even when asleep!  They are unavoidable for all levels of society. ;)
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: jereboam on 29 July 2008, 03:32:23
I've always supported the idea of GB for PM.

I couldn't have been happier when he replaced TB.  I knew that it would make New Labour totally unelectable. :)

Cheer up - they're on their way out! :)

Now we can look forward to a few years of David Cameron self-destructing as he attempts to put the country back onto a secure financial footing.  And we can expect some of the muck that has been swept under the carpet for the past 10 years to start re-appearing.  

It will be great fun to watch for those of us of no particular party political leaning.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 29 July 2008, 06:16:05
There's only one way forward for New Labour from this position .As Lizzie said their position would be untenable if they replaced GB without calling a general election.
I'm afraid GB has suffered a double blow being the incumbent PM when the economic stability of the country has crashed due to circumstances beyond his or the cabinets control, couple this with him being the most unelectable leader in modern times ( excluding Michael Foot ) due to his total lack of charisma or ability to connect with the populace. .These circumstances will force them to stay in power to 2010 which will allow them to try and seduce the public into re electing them again.Meanwhile DC's policies will be able to be examined and decried when they come back fighting after their summer break.
But be cautious , I have lived under Conservative rule and we all desperatly wanted change at the end of their tenure ,remember that old and proven saying "be carefull what you wish for as you might just get it....."
I do not believe that life would be any better under The Conservatives or indeed any other political party they would still have to balance the books and as all newly elected governments do ,they will force  unsavoury measures on you that can be blamed on the mess they inherited from the last government.
We are all going through changes that have never been experienced before ,the days of easily affordable fuel and energy costs are over and we all will have to adapt accordingly. Be under no illusion ,there is no way back to where we were even last year the price of oil and gas is out of any UK governments control and all they can do is tweak the final effect it has on us all.
Oh and although I live in, or rather escaped to, Ireland I am a UK citizen with business and family interests back home.
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Jay w on 29 July 2008, 08:09:49
GB's days are numbered, there is no doubt about that, the only person who doesn't believe that is GB himself.

However getting him out could be the difficult issue, we have now seen a couple of MP's voice no confidence about him, what it needs is for some of the more senior members of the party to do the same and to do it in a public arena, that would be the nail in his coffin.

He was never elected by the puyblic and so should not have been allowed to take office, he has been a runaway train and he is now getting ready to hit the buffers.......

Car crash TV here we come.

I don't believe the next government are going to change things, they want to be elected so they can implement their own vision of the future, but how different is that to our vision. They are so divorced of reality and day to day living that i genuinly don't believe they don't understand the hardship that joe public has to endure when they 'improve' policies.

Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Richie London on 29 July 2008, 08:29:55
stick him on the end of a missile and fire it into space.  :y :y
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: psychnurse on 29 July 2008, 08:33:10
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Who cares?, Really it makes precious little difference. Jeremy Vine's already turned R2's lunchtime slot into his own politics show, if droning was an olympic event he'd win us a gold. terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired. Trying not to rant but i'm sick to back teeth of it.
     Not on here PLEASE. :o :(




Your right  :y :y :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 July 2008, 08:50:52
GB may be a laughing stock as prime minister but I don't believe that is doing us too much harm. What has really harmed the country is his stewardship of the economy when he was chancellor. Whilst we'd love to see him with egg on his face, the damage is done, and a change of PM could make matters worse, IMHO.

What we need now is a change of government. The labour party are running on vapours with no idea how to take the country into the future. We need someone with some fresh ideas, and not afraid to reverse some of the lunacy that new labour has put in place.

TBH, whilst the conservatives are the only viable opposition, they are sounding worryingly like the idiots who are currently in office. They need to come up with some policies of their own, IMHO. However, even if they promise the same as before, they'd be a change. Some new bums on seats with 10 years of opposition fresh in their minds would do no harm at all IMHO.

Kevin
Title: Re: Should he stay? Or should he go now?
Post by: Albert1 on 29 July 2008, 08:53:59
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He should go.

I fear our country may NEVER recover from the Monetary policy of the last 10-15 years.

Yeah! Strong economic growth, low unemployment, rising house prices - how dare Labour inflict that upon us for 11 years!  Barstewards!!

I say bring back John Major and Norman Lamont!!  I miss 12% inflation, 15% interest rates and record house repossessions!!  Yay!  Those were the good old times!!!