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Title: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 November 2016, 00:17:41
How long roughly should this take given average DIY skills? And how long for a experienced Landy specialist?  :-\

I know it's a bit of a how long is a bit of string question, but my mates turbo has gone on his Defender 110 2.4 tdci and he seems to be getting steep prices from his 'Landy Guy'  ::)

TIA!  :y
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: henryd on 04 November 2016, 11:21:46
For a 2010 defender 2.4 Autodata says 1 hour
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 November 2016, 11:32:32
Thanks Henry!  :y
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 November 2016, 11:37:35
Look easy enough to do, front pipe/cat bolts will be the worst to get at but, its pretty high up on the drivers side so access is ok.

They do use that crappy Ford turbo approach (as its a Ford engine unlike the TD5 and 200 and 300 TDi etc) of having an electrical vane actuator mounted on the turbo which often fails (and does on Mondeos and the likes to)
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 November 2016, 17:12:05
Thanks Mark, I didn't think it could be overly complicated.  :y

If it ingested oil into the engine when the turbo failed, could this totally goose it?  His Landy Guy has suggested it might need a complete rebuild!  :o

However, the RAC guy disconnected the turbo and it starts and runs OKish..... He reckoned my mate might get away with a new turbo.  :-\
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: aaronjb on 05 November 2016, 06:42:07
Unless there's more to the story than you're being told then it sounds like he needs a new "Landy Guy"..

If the engine started to run on the ingested oil (uncontrollably) as diesels are apt to do then it might need a new engine, but if not then there's no reason to think a liberal dose of oil up the intake is going to do much (unless you managed to put enough in there in a short enough space of time to hydrolock the engine, which is unlikely!)

Pull the turbo, clean out all the pipework (intercooler/chargecooler if it has one) with petrol off the car, replace turbo, most likely, job jobbed :y (IMHO, IANAE etc etc)

[edit] Maybe his Landy Guy has been short on welding this month and needs a top up before Christmas.. ;D
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 November 2016, 10:12:27
[edit] Maybe his Landy Guy has been short on welding this month and needs a top up before Christmas.. ;D

That doesn't sound very plausible. ;D
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 November 2016, 10:26:03
[edit] Maybe his Landy Guy has been short on welding this month and needs a top up before Christmas.. ;D

That doesn't sound very plausible. ;D

Yes this is my worry.  ::)

The fact that it runs, although roughly suggests to me that a new or rebuilt turbo and a good clean out might solve the problem....  :-\
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: TheBoy on 05 November 2016, 10:45:24
The fact that it runs, although roughly suggests to me that a new or rebuilt turbo and a good clean out might solve the problem....  :-\
I'd certainly be trying a turbo before condemming the engine
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 November 2016, 16:36:04
The fact that it runs, although roughly suggests to me that a new or rebuilt turbo and a good clean out might solve the problem....  :-\
I'd certainly be trying a turbo before condemming the engine
How long has he had it? Might be that it's previously been blown up :-\

Those 2.4 transit lumps are a bit more dureable than the 2.2 though if the buses at work are anything to go buy :-\
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: henryd on 05 November 2016, 19:01:44
[edit] Maybe his Landy Guy has been short on welding this month and needs a top up before Christmas.. ;D

That doesn't sound very plausible. ;D

Yes this is my worry.  ::)

The fact that it runs, although roughly suggests to me that a new or rebuilt turbo and a good clean out might solve the problem....  :-\

It should start and idle normally even with fubar turbo
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: TD on 06 November 2016, 09:10:00
[edit] Maybe his Landy Guy has been short on welding this month and needs a top up before Christmas.. ;D

That doesn't sound very plausible. ;D

Yes this is my worry.  ::)

The fact that it runs, although roughly suggests to me that a new or rebuilt turbo and a good clean out might solve the problem....  :-\

It should start and idle normally even with fubar turbo

That's what I was thinking....Ive driven a couple of diesels with blown turbos . They have idled smoothly and rev'd ok in neutral. Just absolutely gutless .....

But, if a replacement turbo is fitted, make sure the oil feed pick up pipe going to the sump and the oil strainer(filter) in the sump is replaced  :)
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 November 2016, 17:55:09
I think it breathed in a fair amount of oil which is probably why it's running roughly.  I'm wondering whether this will sort itself given time and and a new turbo.  :-\
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 November 2016, 19:57:44
Religiously check the oil level... any changes, up or down, point to trouble...
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 November 2016, 08:41:35
If it breathed oil in then it would simply run on the oil, unless its over revved then there should be no permanent damage.

With a goosed turbo it should idle fine
Title: Re: Defender Turbo Swap
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 November 2016, 19:17:42
If it breathed oil in then it would simply run on the oil, unless its over revved then there should be no permanent damage.

With a goosed turbo it should idle fine

Knowing my mate when it started playing up, I expect he gave it some welly to see if that improved things.  ::)