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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 19 November 2016, 14:45:56
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Im sat at work bored, so decided to get the Omega service history file all in order and make a list of everything I have done in the seven months since I bought it. Sad I know, but I like that kind of thing.
Having done that I added up all the costs and found that I have spent near as dammit £1200 on it since I bought it in May this year !
The car was a nice example when I got it. Its only obvious problem was the cambelt was overdue.
So I ask myself, how the hell did I mange to spend all that dosh on it. It looks exactly the same now as the day I picked it up. ::)
Im sure STEMO will have an answer. ;D
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Im sat at work bored, so decided to get the Omega service history file all in order and make a list of everything I have done in the seven months since I bought it. Sad I know, but I like that kind of thing.
Having done that I added up all the costs and found that I have spent near as dammit £1200 on it since I bought it in May this year !
The car was a nice example when I got it. Its only obvious problem was the cambelt was overdue.
So I ask myself, how the hell did I mange to spend all that dosh on it. It looks exactly the same now as the day I picked it up. ::)
Im sure STEMO will have an answer. ;D
The old boy spends virtually nothing in repairs/upkeep
However, he spends about three times that amount on depreciation. :)
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answer.
It`s an Omega
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Hi
My 1998 saloon is about 1.000€.
Including buying in October 2013, maintenance and new MOT until 6/18
(https://s15.postimg.org/bbzs3yxd7/IMG_7317.jpg)
But I did not count the hours spent under the car.
Rolf
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1 Euro!!! about 85pence. Very cheap. :y
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Hi
The only practicable way to hold an Omega with low budget is watching serious ebay auctions. I bought spare part packages per kilo for an outstanding low price.
That is my way.
ATE front brakes about 50€ ? No problem. You only have to wait for the right offer....
Rolf
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But now you have it all done it will be just wear and tare items . Tyres exhaust wishbones shocks rad's ect ect :D
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Who said anything about it being all done ? I still have a to do list. :D ;D
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that figure is easy to rack up, and, at the same time, if you literally didn't care, easy to avoid. At the same time, you could have easily spent double that. Getting Pissy pack on the road ran into four figures (because, wherever possible I wanted to do things right, and the the best of my abilities) but the last year has run into a little over a tenner a month (ymm... up until recently, anyway!) :)
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My £500 525i has probably set me back another £650, but it's probably worth not much less, and wear and tear items like discs/pads/tyres don't add value... still has an oil leak from the sump, but dropping it to change the gasket can wait until spring ::)
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The V70 I bought at the end of June[and put on the road on 1st July]has now covered approx. 900mls since then,so far I have had 2 new ditchfinders fitted at £29 each and a pair of front wiper blades at £3.97p.That's the self same V70 that cost me all of £50 to purchase :y
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Mine is just about to cost me £11.49 for a new pair of tailgate gas springs. That's as much as I've spent on fuel in the last month! Bloody thing.
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In the words of Mr Brewer, "its not always about the money, its rescui g another classic from the scrap heap" :y
Keith ABS
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
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I would say not, unless you buy a real lemon. Then again the same is true of any car (no exceptions).
Probably stating the obvious here, but any omega you buy will have the thick end 15years under its wheels as an absolute minimum. What that means is you are well into the regular replacement cycle of parts that is needed to keep a car of that age going. Nothing lasts for ever and even non-consumable parts (rads, hoses gaskets etc) will succumb to corossion/wear given enough time.
It just depends on where in that replacement cycle your car is when you buy it as to what needs to be spent. £1200 in 6 months in new bits is a lot (for an omega), but then again its only £200/month which wouldn't buy much to ride round in on lease/pcp. I'd wager that if MigV6 kept up with that £200/month and put it into a bank account as a repairs fund he'd be well up by the end of the year, and could probably fund tax, insurance, and a good few pints on what he had left over!
The only reason it looks expensive is that newer cars take your money off you sneakily through depreciation. You don't actually hand over the cash, so it feels less painful.
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
Omega purchasing is quite straightforward...
Find a car with the least rust/ticks the most boxes (ie auto/manual, leather/cloth, sunroof/not etc) and buy it.
Then budget about £1,000 to get it mechanically sorted (suspension, wishbones, geometry, cambelt, tyres, brakes aircon, radiator etc).
Then add all the bits you want to complete the box ticking.
In the UK, the cars can be bought for relative peanuts, but in Euroland, you should add at least a 1 to the front of the purchase price ;)
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
If I had a mind to, it would probably be a 2.2 Sport manual with a blower... and probably in silver ::) although graphite would be the first choice 8)
In reality, the E39 is a much better (drivers) car...
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
If I had a mind to, it would probably be a 2.2 Sport manual with a blower... and probably in silver ::) although graphite would be the first choice 8)
In reality, the E39 is a much better (drivers) car...
By far the best looking BMW in decades.
The 5.0 V8 M5 is tempting, and prices are likely to rise as they become more rare.
400 BHP and a lovely sound. :y
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I would say not, unless you buy a real lemon. Then again the same is true of any car (no exceptions).
Probably stating the obvious here, but any omega you buy will have the thick end 15years under its wheels as an absolute minimum. What that means is you are well into the regular replacement cycle of parts that is needed to keep a car of that age going. Nothing lasts for ever and even non-consumable parts (rads, hoses gaskets etc) will succumb to corossion/wear given enough time.
It just depends on where in that replacement cycle your car is when you buy it as to what needs to be spent. £1200 in 6 months in new bits is a lot (for an omega), but then again its only £200/month which wouldn't buy much to ride round in on lease/pcp. I'd wager that if MigV6 kept up with that £200/month and put it into a bank account as a repairs fund he'd be well up by the end of the year, and could probably fund tax, insurance, and a good few pints on what he had left over!
The only reason it looks expensive is that newer cars take your money off you sneakily through depreciation. You don't actually hand over the cash, so it feels less painful.
Ok thanks. Good to hear they are not money pits. Like you said, any car can be if you buy a lemon. This is why I'm taking my time. ;)
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
Omega purchasing is quite straightforward...
Find a car with the least rust/ticks the most boxes (ie auto/manual, leather/cloth, sunroof/not etc) and buy it.
Then budget about £1,000 to get it mechanically sorted (suspension, wishbones, geometry, cambelt, tyres, brakes aircon, radiator etc).
Then add all the bits you want to complete the box ticking.
In the UK, the cars can be bought for relative peanuts, but in Euroland, you should add at least a 1 to the front of the purchase price ;)
Yes, they are much more expensive here.
Sounds simple enough. Now is finding the car I want. :)
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
If I had a mind to, it would probably be a 2.2 Sport manual with a blower... and probably in silver ::) although graphite would be the first choice 8)
In reality, the E39 is a much better (drivers) car...
By far the best looking BMW in decades.
The 5.0 V8 M5 is tempting, and prices are likely to rise as they become more rare.
400 BHP and a lovely sound. :y
Should the opportunity ever present itself, the an E61 M5 estate would be my investment car of choice 8)
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
If I had a mind to, it would probably be a 2.2 Sport manual with a blower... and probably in silver ::) although graphite would be the first choice 8)
In reality, the E39 is a much better (drivers) car...
It's the last 5 series that looked alright. Maybe the very last one looks ok too. But not as good as the 80's and 90's BMW 5. BMW 5 and 7 have been downhill since the late 90's. Ugly car after ugly car. The 3 series somehow managed to stay attractive.
I'm sure the E39 is a good car. The problem is that old BMWs here have a bad image :(
And I was never a big fan of the brand to start with.
Otherwise I would probably buy one. After the Omega there is no other good bang for your buck to be had if you want a larger RWD 4 door saloon.
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I quite fancy another Omega.
With the exception of derv or 2.0/2.2.
If I had a mind to, it would probably be a 2.2 Sport manual with a blower... and probably in silver ::) although graphite would be the first choice 8)
In reality, the E39 is a much better (drivers) car...
By far the best looking BMW in decades.
The 5.0 V8 M5 is tempting, and prices are likely to rise as they become more rare.
400 BHP and a lovely sound. :y
Should the opportunity ever present itself, the an E61 M5 estate would be my investment car of choice 8)
Two problems.
1. It's irretrievably ugly and will frighten the horses and children. ;)
2. It is short of torque, and what little there is resides at the top of the rev range. :D
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
I could have got away with spending a lot less than I did. With this car, I have an idea of perfection in mind, and like a fool, I'm chasing it. ::) ;D
The link below shows the car when I bought it. It doesn't look like it needs much money spent on it, but I have found lots of ways of improving it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=136018.0
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Things like these are the reason old BMWs have a bad reputation here:
(http://img.bmw-syndikat.de/gallery/77/462/DSC00063.jpg)
(http://img.bmw-syndikat.de/gallery/107/039/bild_fotos_183399.jpg)
(http://img.bmw-syndikat.de/gallery/154/580/bild_fotos_189382.jpg)
They are seen as cars for low class low education people and have a label on them. A label which I guess in the UK would be something like pikey or yob. I always hated these stupid derogatory social terms. But people feel the need for them to exist I guess.
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
I could have got away with spending a lot less than I did. With this car, I have an idea of perfection in mind, and like a fool, I'm chasing it. ::) ;D
The link below shows the car when I bought it. It doesn't look like it needs much money spent on it, but I have found lots of ways of improving it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=136018.0
Visually it looked fine! ;)
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So is the Omega a money pit or not?
Reading this as a prospect Omega buyer doesn't really seat well. :-[
I could have got away with spending a lot less than I did. With this car, I have an idea of perfection in mind, and like a fool, I'm chasing it. ::) ;D
The link below shows the car when I bought it. It doesn't look like it needs much money spent on it, but I have found lots of ways of improving it.
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=136018.0
Visually it looked fine! ;)
Agreed! Other than selling the grille and buying an original vaux one (probably would have netted cash) it doesn't look like it needs a thing! What have you found to spend >£1000 on?
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Waste of a 6 series, but short of being scrapped that's about all the E36 is fit for ;D
There are people around who will do that to anything from a Citroen Saxo all the way upto an Omega ::)
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Cant remember much of it, but will dig out the service folder later and make a list.
I still have the original grill, by the way. I don't think the irmscher type grill goes particularily well with that colour, but the original grill really makes it look like an old mans car / Astra on steroids.
I am an old man, but I like to kid myself that I'm not. :D
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The list.
GM oil, oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, breathers cleaned.
Contitech cambelt kit.
Front discs.
Touch up paint, aerosol paint, Lacquer etc.
Aircon condenser
Aircon regas
Bosch coilpack
GM cabin filter
Door strap bushes
Sachs rear springs
Number plates
Irmscher number plate surrounds
Used GM wishbones, refurbed using - polybushes, GM rear bushes, balljoints
Lemforder rear track control arms
Febi rear doughnut bushes (not fitted yet)
Pint, lacquer & materials to refurb alloys
2 x Pirelli tyres (part worn 6.5mm)
2x Avon tyres (part worn 6.5mm)
Fitting / balancing tyres
Hunter 4 wheel alignment
GM oil, oil filter, breathers cleaned - again
wiper blades
Camcover (used)
Camcover gasket (from my parts bin)
GM camcover sealant
Wahler thermostat
Climate panel (used)
GM front / rear pads/ handbrake shoes - (not fitted yet)
I think that's the lot. ;D
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Waste of a 6 series, but short of being scrapped that's about all the E36 is fit for ;D
There are people around who will do that to anything from a Citroen Saxo all the way upto an Omega ::)
It’s true people will do this to any car. But they don’t do this with new BMWs for example. Only to the old ones because they are cheap.
But yes, they will do this to any cheap cars. VWs, Opels, Fords, French and a whole bunch more. But for some reason BMW is the only one of the high end marques they will do this to. You don’t see old Mercedes for example getting the tacky treatment. The people who like the tacky look seem to be attracted to BMW for some reason.
The BMW 3 is definitely the biggest victim, because it’s also the cheapest.
But the old BMW 5 cars such as the E34 and E39 are also used for the tasteless tacky modifications:
(https://c-a.d-cd.net/7d164eu-960.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zSvLPEWlFpA/maxresdefault.jpg)
(http://mashintop.ru/userfiles/image/bmw_5_series_e39_tuning_14.jpg)
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hmh1jEgnaVI/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://www.tuningcarz.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/bmw-5-series-e39-tuning-8.jpg)
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/0ZqufTcVr0I/hqdefault.jpg)
(http://cartuning.ws/uploads/posts/2009-01/1230884893_e39-hamann-2.jpg)
As for the Omega, not a chance here. They are as rare as hen’s teeth here. I can go weeks or months without seeing one. People don’t even know what they are unless they are an Opel fan or diehard petrohead. If you take the badges off a PFL the general public won’t know what it is. The FL is easier and many will ask if it’s an Opel. Because the front looks like the Astra and there are a lot of Astra Gs still around.
So there is no bad image about the Omega and you won’t find a tacky one because you can barely find a normal one. There wouldn't be enough tacky ones around to give it a reputation. Also the tacky people want showy cars which people can instantly recognize, thinking they will impress others. So they choose old BMWs I guess.
The thing with old BMWs is that it’s a lose lose proposition. It has the bad reputation because all the tasteless modified cars driving around. But if it’s a stock one there is a kind of laughing through the teeth air, like, look at him with his old BMW or Mercedes. He thinks it’s a status symbol. Mainly because over here BMW, Audi and Mercedes do not enjoy this mythic status they have back in England. Here a 90’s or 2000’s BMW, Audi or Mercedes are just old cars, which are everywhere. Even in farms with farmers using them in the mud, even to pull things in the farm etc. Actually when you see an old one, most often the car will normally have a small town tag. It’s very different than in the UK. But the only one you see more frequently with the tacky modifications are the BMWs for some reason.
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Cant remember much of it, but will dig out the service folder later and make a list.
I still have the original grill, by the way. I don't think the irmscher type grill goes particularily well with that colour, but the original grill really makes it look like an old mans car / Astra on steroids.
I am an old man, but I like to kid myself that I'm not. :D
It's the Vauxhall grill that gives the old mans car look. It has a very conservative look. The Opel grills are much better looking in my opinion.
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You can post all the pictures of any (recent-ish) beemer, but ultimately cannot put a shine on a turd.
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Absolutely. They used to make elegant, purposeful looking drivers cars, up to around the turn of the century. Then suddenly, it was like a competition among their designers to see who could produce the most hideous looking car. Very strange. ???
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You can post all the pictures of any (recent-ish) beemer, but ultimately cannot put a shine on a turd.
For the record I'm not saying any of the cars I posted above look any good. To the contrary. I was trying to show how tacky they are. ;)
And I agree. Can't put a shine on a turd.
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Absolutely. They used to make elegant, purposeful looking drivers cars, up to around the turn of the century. Then suddenly, it was like a competition among their designers to see who could produce the most hideous looking car. Very strange. ???
So it's not only me. I fully agree. I think the last good looking BMW 5 form example was the E34 and the last good looking BMW 7 was the E38. The E39 is passable. Always thought it looked like a fat BMW 3 which needed to go on a diet. But it's alright at least. From then on it was just downhill indeed. The E60 is one of the ugliest cars to ever come out of Germany. The F10 is not much better. It only has a better looking rear but the rest is just as ugly. The E65 and the F01 are ugly as it comes too.
The huge chrome grills that started with the E60 and E65 definitely contribute a lot to the ugliness. Then is the out of proportion bodies and the rest. Even Korean cars are looking nicer these days. BMW really lost it with their flagship cars. The ones bellow the BMW 3 I don't even bother.