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Title: Linux sucks
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2008, 19:19:24
after the little crash earlier, just given the forum 50% more memory.  Linux, being gay, has swallowed all that up (mainly for caching).

No probs for using for caching, as long as it releases when needed. But it doesn't, useless gay heap of shit.  Its paging now.  No wonder nobody is bothering with it any more.


rant over
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Jimbob on 29 July 2008, 19:21:32
here here!

and it has funny word lists

jimbob

pussy

hahahahaha
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Markie on 29 July 2008, 19:22:00
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after the little crash earlier, just given the forum 50% more memory.  Linux, being gay, has swallowed all that up (mainly for caching).

No probs for using for caching, as long as it releases when needed. But it doesn't, useless gay heap of nuts.  Its paging now.  No wonder nobody is bothering with it any more.


rant over


 ;D ;D Dunno who Linux is but that line is quality...
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 July 2008, 19:26:47
Ahhhh, a little crash, I guess thats explains why when I hit refresh I got page cannot be displayed....I guess the url wasnt vaild anymore after the reboot.

Still that'll teach me never to close down IE and just close the lid on my laptop and upon opening the lid just hitting the refresh button on IE   ::) ;D ;D

Still I got to use up 3 of my 400 monthly allowance in texting you  ;D

Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2008, 19:29:55
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Ahhhh, a little crash, I guess thats explains why when I hit refresh I got page cannot be displayed....I guess the url wasnt vaild anymore after the reboot.

Still that'll teach me never to close down IE and just close the lid on my laptop and upon opening the lid just hitting the refresh button on IE   ::) ;D ;D

Still I got to use up 3 of my 400 monthly allowance in texting you  ;D

not got text yet, but phone in kitchen, me, unsurprisingly, in bath....
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 July 2008, 19:31:14
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after the little crash earlier, just given the forum 50% more memory.  Linux, being gay, has swallowed all that up (mainly for caching).

No probs for using for caching, as long as it releases when needed. But it doesn't, useless gay heap of nuts.  Its paging now.  No wonder nobody is bothering with it any more.


rant over

Think ive still got a copy of windows for workgroups 3.11 kicking about somewhere if you want to give that a go instead of Linux  :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 29 July 2008, 19:33:29
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Ahhhh, a little crash, I guess thats explains why when I hit refresh I got page cannot be displayed....I guess the url wasnt vaild anymore after the reboot.

Still that'll teach me never to close down IE and just close the lid on my laptop and upon opening the lid just hitting the refresh button on IE   ::) ;D ;D

Still I got to use up 3 of my 400 monthly allowance in texting you  ;D

not got text yet, but phone in kitchen, me, unsurprisingly, in bath....

Just delete them then.......it will save on TB brain power trying to understand my ramblings  ;D :D
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2008, 19:54:01
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Ahhhh, a little crash, I guess thats explains why when I hit refresh I got page cannot be displayed....I guess the url wasnt vaild anymore after the reboot.

Still that'll teach me never to close down IE and just close the lid on my laptop and upon opening the lid just hitting the refresh button on IE   ::) ;D ;D

Still I got to use up 3 of my 400 monthly allowance in texting you  ;D

not got text yet, but phone in kitchen, me, unsurprisingly, in bath....

Just delete them then.......it will save on TB brain power trying to understand my ramblings  ;D :D
I need to reserve all the brain power I can nowadays ;D

Thanks for text about OOF - much appreciated :y
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: PaulW on 29 July 2008, 21:01:49
must be the distro your using...

never had any issues with Gentoo, been using it now for near 4 years without a problem.  My server has 'never' caused me any grief at all, and has only ever been rebooted once in the past year (20 days ago to be precise) as I was compiling in a new kernel.

Its running as a gateway to my internal LAN (with upnp), closed proxy, web, mail and ftp servers.  But everything was compiled from source and configured independently, much better than relying on 'pre-built' binaries and configs...

Same with my laptop, running sweet as!

Altho I'm also not running it in a virtual environment...
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: feeutfo on 29 July 2008, 21:15:01
 
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must be the distro your using...

never had any issues with Gentoo, been using it now for near 4 years without a problem.  My server has 'never' caused me any grief at all, and has only ever been rebooted once in the past year (20 days ago to be precise) as I was compiling in a new kernel.

Its running as a gateway to my internal LAN (with upnp), closed proxy, web, mail and ftp servers.  But everything was compiled from source and configured independently, much better than relying on 'pre-built' binaries and configs...

Same with my laptop, running sweet as!

Altho I'm also not running it in a virtual environment...

Anybody know what hes taking about? :-/

Will yellow dog 6 work on my ps3? Is it worth
bothering with?

Sorry to interrupt.
 
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: PaulW on 29 July 2008, 21:23:31
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Anybody know what hes taking about? :-/

Will yellow dog 6 work on my ps3? Is it worth
bothering with?

Sorry to interrupt.
 

 ;D some people will :)

Pointless running Yellowdog on your PS3, or any other Linux distro tbh...

You can't use the graphics chip properly (Sony only allow you to use Framebuffer mode) so its slow as hell in the gui.

You can't just load up a PS3 game while in linux, as it runs seperate from the game OS.

And its also running in a virtual environment itself... so just makes it run like a dog from the word go.

I've seen a P3 1ghz with 256mb of ram outperform the PS3 running Linux ;D
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2008, 22:28:53
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must be the distro your using...

never had any issues with Gentoo, been using it now for near 4 years without a problem.  My server has 'never' caused me any grief at all, and has only ever been rebooted once in the past year (20 days ago to be precise) as I was compiling in a new kernel.

Its running as a gateway to my internal LAN (with upnp), closed proxy, web, mail and ftp servers.  But everything was compiled from source and configured independently, much better than relying on 'pre-built' binaries and configs...

Same with my laptop, running sweet as!

Altho I'm also not running it in a virtual environment...
Tried most of the 'professional' distros, though its irrelevent as its the way the kernel does resource mgmt.

We've had similar issues at work, hence we are rapidly moving back to proper Unix such as Solaris and HPUX, and less Linux based servers.
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: TheBoy on 29 July 2008, 22:35:10
PaulW - I'm guessing yours isn't 'busy' - what sort of spec, what are queue levels (from uptime,top, etc), and amount of memory and swap used?
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: feeutfo on 29 July 2008, 23:01:48
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Anybody know what hes taking about? :-/

Will yellow dog 6 work on my ps3? Is it worth
bothering with?

Sorry to interrupt.
 

 ;D some people will :)

Pointless running Yellowdog on your PS3, or any other Linux distro tbh...

You can't use the graphics chip properly (Sony only allow you to use Framebuffer mode) so its slow as hell in the gui.

You can't just load up a PS3 game while in linux, as it runs seperate from the game OS.

And its also running in a virtual environment itself... so just makes it run like a dog from the word go.

I've seen a P3 1ghz with 256mb of ram outperform the PS3 running Linux ;D


I see, add to that i need a wireless keyboard to operate
It and its memory is chock full of div x already. Dont
Think ill bother. Cheers

Ps whats best way to get the net on your tv?
xbox 360 to your pc via vista? I want i player etc.
Itll be pants with our current internet service,
1185 G width in the street is best we get. But the mrs
May get something better through work.
Dont worry if im boring you. ;)




Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: PaulW on 30 July 2008, 02:07:43
You should be able to use iplayer through the PS3 browser. (flash only not download)
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: dbug on 30 July 2008, 08:41:53
 :o
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: Debs. on 30 July 2008, 08:47:16
Seeing as it happens so often; The Boy`s linux-rant should be made sticky [size=8](a double hate: stickies and Linux)[/size].....`save a bit on ranting time! ;D
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: PaulW on 30 July 2008, 09:39:43
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PaulW - I'm guessing yours isn't 'busy' - what sort of spec, what are queue levels (from uptime,top, etc), and amount of memory and swap used?

At the moment its not too busy no, I'll agree, but it is getting more use.

Hosting a few sites on it, got a forum running too which has always got someone on (not as busy as OOF mind, but it has its moments), its also got postfix running as a vmail system with mysql backend.  Also currently experimenting with a few people on flv encoding & streaming (as a friend is using for her showreel for getting a job http://www.vestatron.com/show-reel.html.)

Postfix is handling about 20 email addresses so far, 7 which are heavy use (2 are mine).  This will be expanded at somepoint as they will be supplied to certain members on the forum.

top - 09:31:47 up 20 days, 13:17,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
Tasks:  82 total,   1 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:   1026988k total,   585904k used,   441084k free,   103736k buffers
Swap:   506036k total,     5544k used,   500492k free,   222152k cached

gsi ~ # cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:      1026988 kB
MemFree:        442700 kB
Buffers:        103852 kB
Cached:         222324 kB
SwapCached:       1020 kB
Active:         217644 kB
Inactive:       191936 kB
SwapTotal:      506036 kB
SwapFree:       500492 kB

The only 'read' hog I have in regards to memory is clamd, but I'm looking into getting Kaspersky, as well its better and apparently less of a pig.
Title: Re: Linux sucks
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 July 2008, 10:02:54
if I'm not wrong there were a bunch of parameters for tuning memory (especially for databases) .. But possibly you tried that :-/