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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 January 2017, 17:30:00
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Nowt to do with me, but might be if interest to someone.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/252705466550?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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MOT history suggests it needs discs, pads, maybe brake pipes, and wishbones/ wheel alignment. But that's nothing out of the ordinary.
Might be a good time of the year from a buyers point of view.
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Current bid is what it`s worth. It`s a 13 year old gas guzzler that will never attain "classic" status and it certainly won`t as per seller "This car will only go up in value"
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It will never be anything more than a minor classic, at best, but 3.2 elites are thin on the ground these days (mainly due to you dismantling them :P ), so I think its worth a lot more than the current bid.
As always though, the market will decide. ;)
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That's a lot of car for the money and someone could get a comfy cruiser for peanuts. :y
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That's a lot of car for the money and someone could get a comfy cruiser for peanuts. :y
Got 6 days to run, might go for five grand. :P
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I will be surprised if it doesn't go over the £1k mark. It could make 2 grand on a good day.
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That's a lot of car for the money and someone could get a comfy cruiser for peanuts. :y
Got 6 days to run, might go for five grand. :P
Compared to what I paid for my Elites all those years ago that's still peanuts. ;D Based on the OOF valuation I am currently £50K down over two Elites at this present time. ;D
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That's a lot of car for the money and someone could get a comfy cruiser for peanuts. :y
Got 6 days to run, might go for five grand. :P
Compared to what I paid for my Elites all those years ago that's still peanuts. ;D Based on the OOF valuation I am currently £50K down over two Elites at this present time. ;D
I am a lot of £K's down over the years, simply because there was always something different/better than mine. Hopefully I've settled down now.
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That's a lot of car for the money and someone could get a comfy cruiser for peanuts. :y
Cost a damn sight more than that to run though ;D
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It will never be anything more than a minor classic, at best, but 3.2 elites are thin on the ground these days (mainly due to you dismantling them :P ), so I think its worth a lot more than the current bid.
As always though, the market will decide. ;)
Unlikely :P ;D
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It will never be anything more than a minor classic, at best, but 3.2 elites are thin on the ground these days (mainly due to you dismantling them :P ), so I think its worth a lot more than the current bid.
As always though, the market will decide. ;)
Can still remember Oofers bemoaning the fact that I was breaking them, then messaging me for parts :-X ;D
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I cant believe that ! ::) ;D ;D
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I cant believe that ! ::) ;D ;D
If I could lay my hands on more 3.2`s or Irmys, I`d get the spanners out again Albs, sod `em all ;D ;D
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I'm too old, knackered and short of leisure time to do it now. Also, every one I dismantled brought considerably less £ to the piggy bank than the previous one, to the point where the last one wasn't really worth doing, and that was a running 3.2 elite.
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Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.
I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.
We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure. RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.
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Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.
I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.
We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure. RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.
Really ??!!!
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Hard to say if they will become a classic or not. I know that Carltons (Omega A) around here are starting to pick up. 3000 GSi in nice condition don't stay for sale for long and are not really cheap anymore.
I'm sure the real Steinmetz Omegas will become classics. They are already legendary among Opel fans. It's a pity that all the fake ones out there mud the waters a bit. But once the fake ones end up in the scrap yard, the real ones, which most likely will be maintained because of what they are will become rare. Probably will never command Lotus Carlton prices because they were not so fast. But they still left the AMG and M5 counterparts in the dust back in the day. And they look great too. And they were made in very limited numbers. There were 30 times more Lotus made than them. 900 something vs less than 30.
We will see what the future holds. But it has chances of becoming a minor classic for sure. RWD alone already almost guarantees that, especially in V6 guise.
Really ??!!!
Yep. :y
Ok, left in the dust is a bit hyperbole. ;D
But the Steinmetz was quicker than the AMG E50, BMW M5 and Schnitzer BMW for example. ;)
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What mods did Steinmetz make to the engines then ? ???
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What mods did Steinmetz make to the engines then ? ???
They had several versions. From a simply chipped diesel, to turbo, to supercharged etc. When you consider the AMG E50 for example is a 5.0 V8 with around 350bhp, it's not shabby at all for the Omega to beat it. ;)
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Never going to be any sort of classic,unless there's a shed of the week award being handed out, of all the shows that I attended with the ABS last summer.....guess who's omegas were there?,mine and James Waddington's, and one of those is a fully liveried police car. I believe there were one or two at Billing which due to man flu I didn't attend,but I had already prepped the R8 in readiness,so no Omega from me there if I had gone. :'( classic very unlikely imo.
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Never going to be any sort of classic,unless there's a shed of the week award being handed out, of all the shows that I attended with the ABS last summer.....guess who's omegas were there?,mine and James Waddington's, and one of those is a fully liveried police car. I believe there were one or two at Billing which due to man flu I didn't attend,but I had already prepped the R8 in readiness,so no Omega from me there if I had gone. :'( classic very unlikely imo.
I believe it can reach the same status as older RWD Opels and Vaxhalls like the Monza, older Carlton, Rekord etc have reached for sure. It's just way too new for that yet. Even the 80's Carlton/Omega A are.
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
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When you find the car you are looking for,will you undertake a round trip of 200 miles to attend a club breakfast meet or a similar or longer journey to show your car?.Because I have racked up over 3k in the 5 month summer season of shows, and I can say now the only OOF member at those shows was the aforementioned Mr Waddington.Does this not flag up a major reason why the Omega isn't going to make it? I have three Omegas and the guys that know the cars will tell you that they are in good shape and because of that I'm constantly getting messages on FB and PM's on here to sell them...but all for the wrong reasons....take time, have a think as to what will happen to them,they will take that one way trip across the Irish sea and all the efforts/time and a considerable amount of money that has flowed under the Omega bridge will end up in clouds of rubber smoke and a LSD with a serious survival problem, and then on to a muddy death in some Irish scrap yard,or in the case of my first Omega...a Polish scrap yard. And that's why the Omega is going to struggle even to be remembered as the Vauxhall that nearly made classic status.......sorry...trying to give up negativity for '17.....struggling atm :'(
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
I doubt any of us will live that long.
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Just to add, I think that if the car does make it to the point of preservation then there's only going to be a small number of survivors which I would agree then they could be classed as classics. The big but is that they are getting cubed at a serious rate of knots and if the example of a perfectly good 51 plate Elite on FB today being used for banger racing,and then the guy is now offering bits of it for free.....think Serek is after a bit himself.So there you go another one going to the big Omega scrap yard in the sky,when they're gone they're gone so to say. ??? Thank you for your comments Mr W ;D
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
I doubt any of us will live that long.
How long do you figure could take? I doubt anybody in the 80's were going around saying 80's Escort and Fiestas would be classics. Yet, 30 years later...
So the Omega's turn might come and I might not even be 60 then. I'm counting on still being around. :y
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
I doubt any of us will live that long.
How long do you figure could take? I doubt anybody in the 80's were going around saying 80's Escort and Fiestas would be classics. Yet, 30 years later...
So the Omega's turn might come and I might not even be 60 then. I'm counting on still being around. :y
Omegas have no image to make them attractive as a short term, let alone a long term bet, and are currently worth nothing. In thirty years the couple of dozen survivors will be just like all the big Vauxhalls of the sixties and seventies are now: a curiosity. Even the Lotus Carlton hasn't lifted the profile of ordinary Carltons/Senators.
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What a depressing thread.... There is Migv6 sharing a Omega 3.2 Elite for sale, Not long after this thread has turned into something else. ;D
Re.. The car for sale, Looks nice enough, Just a shame about the colour. Could make someone a nice car though.
Re.. The classic status. I personally believe the Omega (mainly the 3.0/3.2 Elite/MV6) will reach a similar classic status to the Carlton GSi / Senator 3.0 24v... No idea about the Omega 2.0s, 2.2s, 2.5s, 2.6s cd, cdx etc... Time will tell...
Als on a sidenote... It is odd how the Vauxhall heritage center with the vast amount of cars they have there including a Vectra B they do not have one Omega.... Nor does Vauxhall/Opel seem to acknowledge the existence of the Omega in their social media posts (Throwback pictures, history etc...)
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Exactly what we're trying to project,and in a way you have partly hit the nail on the head,I also mooched around the VX Heritage centre a couple of times thinking that I had missed their example,obviously not worthy of being an exhibit.So if the manufacturer of the Omega is on the surface is almost ignoring its existence, then where will the recognition come from??
Answer is obvious....on here of course, and again you need to go to the shows to see wether the general public are interested in the Omega,
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Talk about a positive start to 2017 :o
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Doesn't look bad, my 2.6 CDX which I sold on the bay a year ago to a member on here made £750 and was much better condition wise ,so this could do the same.As for being a classic never, a curiosity maybe.
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Not sure what's happened here,the post is not complete...will try to get it back ::)
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Anywaaaay..................the listing has ended after one day. I imagine someone made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Without knowing the amount involved, that could have been a mistake on the part of the seller. As I said previously, nice 3.2,s are thin on the ground. Particularily with mileage that low. Miles clocked doesn't really matter as much as good servicing with these cars, but many potential buyers may not be aware of that.
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Bugger! nothing to moan about now,other than I was getting my insurance sorted out on my 3.2 Elite this morning,they want £250 not bad :y they value the car at £380 'kin hell,and we're waffling about the Omega becoming a classic....pissed my self laughing! FFS ;D ;D ;D
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I think the biggest problem with it getting to classic status in the uk at least is that there was no special edition, If vauxhall had given the V8 plans to someone like MSD we might of ended up with a nice V8 GSI.
Think about it like this when you talk to a car enthusiast about the carlton they think Lotus, when you talk about omega they think cop car/boring cruiser.
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A friend of mine has a facelift (2000 year) 3.0 Elite. His insurance have agreed to insure it as a classic car, with the obvious benefits of agreed value, and a much lower premium. There is an annual mileage restriction, but this can be tailored to the owners needs.
If insurance companies are willing to insure Omegas as classic cars, then maybe all the doom and gloom in this topic maybe unfounded?
I have several Triumph 2000's and 2.5PI's; the latter were scrapped for fun during fuel shortages or were converted to carbs, and at one point in their lifetime were near worthless. Although they don't have the classic status of Stags or TR's, good examples are now fetching good money, and can fetch between 5-10K depending on the model. Good 2.5PI's are now difficult to find and can command really strong money.
The Omega is now at that low point value wise, and good ones especially 3.2 Elites for example, can only go one way now if looked after, in my opinion.
I regularly get people saying to me - 'I had one of these Omegas years ago, and it was one of the best cars I ever had'.
I also remember people saying the exact same comment to me in the early late 80's and early 90's about my Triumphs.
I wouldn't be too keen to write the Omega off just yet......
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Just been through the fleet,valued the three on todays insurance estimates at less than a grand,long,long way to go methinks,I guess you can only dream 8) ;D ;D ;D and still laughing :-X
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Exactly what we're trying to project,and in a way you have partly hit the nail on the head,I also mooched around the VX Heritage centre a couple of times thinking that I had missed their example,obviously not worthy of being an exhibit.So if the manufacturer of the Omega is on the surface is almost ignoring its existence, then where will the recognition come from??
Answer is obvious....on here of course, and again you need to go to the shows to see wether the general public are interested in the Omega,
Nitro, I don't wish to keep this back and forth with you where you keep repeating yourself and I keep repeating myself. The only real way to know it is to meet here again in 30 years. ;D
But I must say you are being short sighted. You seem to be looking at it from the UK point of view. Very short sighted indeed in this day and age. The UK is neither the whole world or the center of it. The Omega was an international product, sold also overseas outside of Europe as well as in the rest of Europe, where the UK is the 11th largest piece of land. So looking only at the UK market is hardly any real indication. Opel is huge in the Netherlands and has a big following in countries like Germany, France and especially Poland and the rest of the eastern block.
So the Omega has the same chances all the other large RWD Opel cars had to become a classic. I'm not sure how is the scene currently back in the UK. But around here classic Opels have value. I'm not even going to go too far back where some classic Opels fetch over 40.000 Euros for a mint example. Or the special classic models that sell for over 70.000 Euros. Let's just go no further back than the 70's and only look at the direct ancestors of the Omega. These sell for anything between 10.000 and 20.000 Euros depending on the version. These are not the special V8s. These are mass produced 4 and 6 cylinders 4 doors Opel saloons.
So Opels do have their fans. The Kadett D took the third spot in the top 10 cars which more appreciated in the last 5 years for example. And the Omega is not less important than any of the mass produced 70's Opels. Actually it's more special because it's the last of them. It is just too young yet.
About the Omega not being present in the Vauxhall museum, I'm not sure what the big deal is or why it matters so much. It's not even a Vauxhall. It's an Opel. There are no more Vauxhalls. Only re-badged Opels and a couple of Holdens, which are soon to go the way of Vauxhalls too. Maybe Vauxhall has limited space and wants to dedicate the space to the real Vauxhalls classics. Or maybe they use a rotation system and the Omega just wasn't there when you went? Was the Vectra one of the race cars? Regardless it doesn't mean much that there is no Omega there. At the Opel museum the Omega is represented just fine, with a couple examples actually.
Here's one alongside none other than the Lotus at the Opel museum:
(https://auto-motor.at/Auto/Oldtimer/Opel-Schaetze/150-Jahre-Opel-Teil-4-Die-Schaetze-Keller-043.jpg?v=1338538201&version=full)
The Omega is an Opel and is well represented at the Opel museum. It’s important to look at the big picture and not only from your limited “neighbourhood” perspective. But I know we will have to set for agreeing to disagree. So see you in 30 years to settle it. ;)
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What a depressing thread.... There is Migv6 sharing a Omega 3.2 Elite for sale, Not long after this thread has turned into something else. ;D
Re.. The car for sale, Looks nice enough, Just a shame about the colour. Could make someone a nice car though.
Re.. The classic status. I personally believe the Omega (mainly the 3.0/3.2 Elite/MV6) will reach a similar classic status to the Carlton GSi / Senator 3.0 24v... No idea about the Omega 2.0s, 2.2s, 2.5s, 2.6s cd, cdx etc... Time will tell...
Als on a sidenote... It is odd how the Vauxhall heritage center with the vast amount of cars they have there including a Vectra B they do not have one Omega.... Nor does Vauxhall/Opel seem to acknowledge the existence of the Omega in their social media posts (Throwback pictures, history etc...)
Indeed it is depressing. The negativity kind of makes you look again at the url to make sure you are in an Omega Fan forum. ;D
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A friend of mine has a facelift (2000 year) 3.0 Elite. His insurance have agreed to insure it as a classic car, with the obvious benefits of agreed value, and a much lower premium. There is an annual mileage restriction, but this can be tailored to the owners needs.
If insurance companies are willing to insure Omegas as classic cars, then maybe all the doom and gloom in this topic maybe unfounded?
I have several Triumph 2000's and 2.5PI's; the latter were scrapped for fun during fuel shortages or were converted to carbs, and at one point in their lifetime were near worthless. Although they don't have the classic status of Stags or TR's, good examples are now fetching good money, and can fetch between 5-10K depending on the model. Good 2.5PI's are now difficult to find and can command really strong money.
The Omega is now at that low point value wise, and good ones especially 3.2 Elites for example, can only go one way now if looked after, in my opinion.
I regularly get people saying to me - 'I had one of these Omegas years ago, and it was one of the best cars I ever had'.
I also remember people saying the exact same comment to me in the early late 80's and early 90's about my Triumphs.
I wouldn't be too keen to write the Omega off just yet......
Exactly! Many valuable classics go through that stage of worthless value. But then at some point they just click. Has happened so many times and then you get people saying things like "I wish I had bought one when they went for peanuts".
I also agree that the top V6 Omegas are now at rock bottom and can only go up from here. If you have a great example in hands it will never be worth less than it is now. :y
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In thirty years time, the remaining Omegas will be as valuable and sought after as Crestas, Viscounts and VX4/90s are today.
They're worthless today and good ones are still easy to find so values aren't likely to rise for some time. Rarity coupled with demand is what causes price increases, and the demand for a 20 year old Omega is already non existent.
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In thirty years time, the remaining Omegas will be as valuable and sought after as Crestas, Viscounts and VX4/90s are today.
They're worthless today and good ones are still easy to find so values aren't likely to rise for some time. Rarity coupled with demand is what causes price increases, and the demand for a 20 year old Omega is already non existent.
Speaking from the perspective of living on an island or globally, which is what really matters?
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anV6...go to page 4 of the Omega Gallery, title...''my three money pits'' and tell me that I don't care about Omegas! That's 20+ grands worth of investment at that point and it's work in progress at all times,and yes even today!So please cut the pre-judgement crap about a person you don't know and hopefully won't.You haven't been on here long enough to know that, what is being said is a lot of 'tongue in cheek' and yes, we are allowed to make comments about our cars and make opinions as to the future of the marque, I for one am doing just that, but unfortunately you seem to think that you have all the answers....hello! you don't! >:( >:( btw I am aware that the world is round and yes I am aware of the various followings of the countries that you have outlined.The question is do we care? more than likely not!
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Oh, wow! So this is how far the piss taking goes? Till somebody gets back at you and you don't like it? ;D
Then we lose our cool? :o
Ok, you brought up some interesting points. Shall we address them? Or are you going to flip again? Honestly, after how much I have taken here it surprises me that you would flip like that, specially after being one of those who repeatedly personally attacked me. So ok then, let's do it. ;D
anV6...go to page 4 of the Omega Gallery, title...''my three money pits'' and tell me that I don't care about Omegas! That's 20+ grands worth of investment at that point and it's work in progress at all times,and yes even today!
I don't need to. I'm not saying you don't care for the Omega. I'm saying you are being short sighted about it's classic value and you are.
So please cut the pre-judgement crap about a person you don't know and hopefully won't.
But isn't that what some, including you have been doing to me since I got here? Pre-judging me? Calling me a troll, saying I'm just here to wind people up. Didn't you actually accuse me of being some Chris person (who I have never heard of) just the other day? That is not pre-judgement? I guess that is only an one way street then? ::)
You haven't been on here long enough to know that, what is being said is a lot of 'tongue in cheek' and yes, we are allowed to make comments about our cars and make opinions as to the future of the marque,
Yes you are. And am I not then?
I for one am doing just that,
So am I. I think the Omega has a future as a classic. You don't. That's all there is to it.
but unfortunately you seem to think that you have all the answers....hello! you don't! >:( >:(
I don't think I have all the answers or I wouldn't be here. I have learned a lot about this cars from the nice people here who try to help. But I'm not new to the world of cars and specially classic cars. I'm not new to the world of Opel. I'm not even 100% new to the world of the Omega. I just know nowhere as much as the experts here about it's mechanics and ins and outs. But I do know about cars. I have been into them for a long while.
tbtw I am aware that the world is round and yes I am aware of the various followings of the countries that you have outlined.The question is do we care? more than likely not!
This I already figured. You didn't have to point it out. Hence why I said you are being short sighted in your assessment of the Omega's status as a classic. ;)
Look! Don't take this as a personal attack. It is not! You and many here have personally attacked me and I stayed cool so far. I'm just expressing my opinion and backing it up with facts. That's all. Sorry if it doesn't match yours. It doesn't make me angry at you. Apparently you are not as good of a sport. ::)
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.... the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
The Omega will become a classic about five years after I've sold mine. ;D It's happened to me a few times already with Fords. I owned them for years, looked after them religiously, sold them for peanuts and lo and behold they've become a classic worth a fair bit of money a few years down the line. The moral of the story is, buy what I buy but keep it for a few years after I've sold mine. You won't go far wrong judging by my previous history. ;D
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.... the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
The Omega will become a classic about five years after I've sold mine. ;D It's happened to me a few times already with Fords. I owned them for years, looked after them religiously, sold them for peanuts and lo and behold they've become a classic worth a fair bit of money a few years down the line. The moral of the story is, buy what I buy but keep it for a few years after I've sold mine. You won't go far wrong judging by my previous history. ;D
Sounds like a plan. Please start sending lists of all you buy from now on to me. ;) :y
In all seriousness, I also know people who have gone through that same thing. It sure seems to leave a bitter taste on the lips.
Maybe just never sell your Omega then. :y
A black 3.2 is among the best you can have when it comes to Omegas. ;)
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I know of three you won't see on that list!!
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.... the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
The Omega will become a classic about five years after I've sold mine. ;D It's happened to me a few times already with Fords. I owned them for years, looked after them religiously, sold them for peanuts and lo and behold they've become a classic worth a fair bit of money a few years down the line. The moral of the story is, buy what I buy but keep it for a few years after I've sold mine. You won't go far wrong judging by my previous history. ;D
Sounds like a plan. Please start sending lists of all you buy from now on to me. ;) :y
In all seriousness, I also know people who have gone through that same thing. It sure seems to leave a bitter taste on the lips.
Maybe just never sell your Omega then. :y
A black 3.2 is among the best you can have when it comes to Omegas. ;)
Why so keen to have a 3.0 manual then ???
Suspect your edit was a deliberate effort to obtain the result it achieved :-X
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.... the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
The Omega will become a classic about five years after I've sold mine. ;D It's happened to me a few times already with Fords. I owned them for years, looked after them religiously, sold them for peanuts and lo and behold they've become a classic worth a fair bit of money a few years down the line. The moral of the story is, buy what I buy but keep it for a few years after I've sold mine. You won't go far wrong judging by my previous history. ;D
Sounds like a plan. Please start sending lists of all you buy from now on to me. ;) :y
In all seriousness, I also know people who have gone through that same thing. It sure seems to leave a bitter taste on the lips.
Maybe just never sell your Omega then. :y
A black 3.2 is among the best you can have when it comes to Omegas. ;)
Why so keen to have a 3.0 manual then ???
Suspect your edit was a deliberate effort to obtain the result it achieved :-X
I said "among the best". ;)
Any 3.2 or 3.0 and even a 2.5 V6 petro to be honest, as an Omega are the best there are. I just happen to have a preference for manual. We have been there before ;D
But just because I want a manual for myself doesn't mean I can't appreciate a 3.2 auto. It is still a fine and among the finest Omegas. ;)
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A lot of opinions flying round here, and I suddenly realised I haven't put my tuppence worth in yet:
Ancient, rusty old barges. Undrivable in the wet, like most rear wheel driven cars. Old technology, with a million fault-prone sensors. Seriously thirsty in 3.0 or 3.2l guise. Nothing but trouble and I wouldn't have one if you paid me.
I think that just about covers it ;D
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
I doubt any of us will live that long.
It seems that once you reach rock bottom, there's about 4 years before the prices start to rise. Look at the Mk2 and Mk3 cavalier.
Couldn't give a Mk2 cav away in 2004, but by 2008 they were starting to rise rapidly.
Couldn't give a Mk3 cav away in 2013, but by 2017 prices are again starting to rise rapidly.
I reckon by the time I'm 55 omegas will be very thin on the ground and Prices will be double what they are today.
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To be honest, if you think how things work with classic cars, the Omega has the biggest chance of any Opel/Vauxhall to become a classic. It was the last RWD Opel. Just give it time. ;)
I doubt any of us will live that long.
It seems that once you reach rock bottom, there's about 4 years before the prices start to rise. Look at the Mk2 and Mk3 cavalier.
Couldn't give a Mk2 cav away in 2004, but by 2008 they were starting to rise rapidly.
Couldn't give a Mk3 cav away in 2013, but by 2017 prices are again starting to rise rapidly.
I reckon by the time I'm 55 omegas will be very thin on the ground and Prices will be double what they are today.
Hmmmm........£200 then.... ;D