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Title: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: greatdane on 09 January 2017, 11:17:45
I am a newbie who has been a member for over a year since I purchased an Omega Elite Estate.  It has now failed its MOT and I am going to have to scrap it due to the ruling that I cannot advertise my vehicle for sale since I have not posted more than 250 posts.  I do understand the reason for this rule but feel it is rather excessive.  Someone out there would have been able to give her a good home and do the work necessary welding work to get her through and end up with a beautiful car with lots of extras.
 >:( :(
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Andy B on 09 January 2017, 12:01:58
What's it failed on so drastically that you feel the need to scrap it?
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: zirk on 09 January 2017, 13:14:18
The Rules are the Rules unfortunately, and the reasons behind them have been discussed numerous times.

In all fairness youve been a member for 15 months and have a post count of 4, ample time too rack up the min of 250 thats required.  :-\
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: ronnyd on 09 January 2017, 19:44:51
Didn,t want to get involved until shite hit the fan? ;D
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 09 January 2017, 21:24:54
15 Months in Omega Ownership and not needed any help?  Jesus - You must be good!  :D :D

Seriously though - There are genuine, and VERY obvious reasons why selling a car on this forum is only available to the more active members (lets be fair, 250 posts is not a large amount).

Don't feel disheartened..... Stick it up on eBay, we see all those too!  :y
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: STEMO on 09 January 2017, 22:37:00
The chances of selling an omega on this forum are very slight. Have a trawl through the for sale section.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: greatdane on 10 January 2017, 08:55:39
Surely it shows just how good the car is.  I checked out the site daily but, with Parkinsons, I am unable to type these days so have to enlist the help of my long suffering wife.  She has housework to do and can't give her time fully to my online needs!



Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: GrahamT on 10 January 2017, 12:55:28
15 Months in Omega Ownership and not needed any help?  Jesus - You must be good!  :D :D

Seriously though - There are genuine, and VERY obvious reasons why selling a car on this forum is only available to the more active members (lets be fair, 250 posts is not a large amount).

Don't feel disheartened..... Stick it up on eBay, we see all those too!  :y

I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Andy B on 10 January 2017, 13:29:52
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I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks

just safer I suppose. After 250 posts, others might have got a better picture of that person, compared with a new member that comes to a forum with, apaprently, loads of the nice to have bits, takes monies & f***s of with the cash with no intention of sending goods out.
Not suggesting in the slightest that greatdane is anything but honourable  :y :y, but the above has happened before on forums  >:(
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: TheBoy on 10 January 2017, 14:06:24
We are limited on what the software that OOF is built on can do.

In the early days, we had no such limits, and it just caused hassle, with an influx of people joining purely to sell their stuff, so we have played around other the years with what is achievable within the software, and what works for our community, and this is why the current limits are as they are....   ....and have been for a few years now, as it works pretty well, allowing potential buyers to get a feel for people by the time they are able to sell.


OOF does cost real money to run. Somebody has to pay the bills.  It was started to help owners with their Omegas.  It was never started to be a marketplace, and we leave that mostly to the online marketplaces like ebay and co.  We are not here paying real money to allow everyone access to place free adverts, though obviously we see the need to bring like minded people together to exchange/sell/buy certain related parts and even cars - but this is for those who have contributed their time in helping others.

Not a perfect world, I know, but thats how we ended up where we are.


No offence intended to anyone, and we know there will always be deserving cases that do not fit, but we have made it a hard and fast rule to ensure fairness and eliminate arguements.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: GrahamT on 10 January 2017, 15:30:54
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I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks

just safer I suppose. After 250 posts, others might have got a better picture of that person, compared with a new member that comes to a forum with, apaprently, loads of the nice to have bits, takes monies & f***s of with the cash with no intention of sending goods out.
Not suggesting in the slightest that greatdane is anything but honourable  :y :y, but the above has happened before on forums  >:(

Sorry but with parts that can almost be understood, but a car? Doesn't make any sense at all.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 10 January 2017, 20:29:48
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I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks

just safer I suppose. After 250 posts, others might have got a better picture of that person, compared with a new member that comes to a forum with, apaprently, loads of the nice to have bits, takes monies & f***s of with the cash with no intention of sending goods out.
Not suggesting in the slightest that greatdane is anything but honourable  :y :y, but the above has happened before on forums  >:(

Sorry but with parts that can almost be understood, but a car? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Please explain why you think otherwise?

A part may be worth several pounds, or maybe even several hundred pounds.  A Car is worth several hundred pounds to several thousand pounds.  Extra protection because of the extra risk.

As previously said, if the seller puts the car on eBay, we will see it anyway.  Oh, wait - You have to pay for eBay!

Nothing in life is free, and if you want to flog a car on OOF, you have to pay for it - by being part of the community.

As a saide note:  You'll get far less for an Omega on here than you would in the local papers.  We all know what we are looking for, and know what they are worth!

HTH!
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: GrahamT on 10 January 2017, 20:47:31
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I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks

just safer I suppose. After 250 posts, others might have got a better picture of that person, compared with a new member that comes to a forum with, apaprently, loads of the nice to have bits, takes monies & f***s of with the cash with no intention of sending goods out.
Not suggesting in the slightest that greatdane is anything but honourable  :y :y, but the above has happened before on forums  >:(

Sorry but with parts that can almost be understood, but a car? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Please explain why you think otherwise?

A part may be worth several pounds, or maybe even several hundred pounds.  A Car is worth several hundred pounds to several thousand pounds.  Extra protection because of the extra risk.

As previously said, if the seller puts the car on eBay, we will see it anyway.  Oh, wait - You have to pay for eBay!

Nothing in life is free, and if you want to flog a car on OOF, you have to pay for it - by being part of the community.

As a saide note:  You'll get far less for an Omega on here than you would in the local papers.  We all know what we are looking for, and know what they are worth!

HTH!

Ok simple. How do you get ripped off buying a car you view and pay for face to face.

It's not about cost, it's about keeping cars with enthusiastic owners. As cars of this age just go to the scrap heap as it's easier.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 10 January 2017, 21:07:15
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I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks

just safer I suppose. After 250 posts, others might have got a better picture of that person, compared with a new member that comes to a forum with, apaprently, loads of the nice to have bits, takes monies & f***s of with the cash with no intention of sending goods out.
Not suggesting in the slightest that greatdane is anything but honourable  :y :y, but the above has happened before on forums  >:(

Sorry but with parts that can almost be understood, but a car? Doesn't make any sense at all.

Please explain why you think otherwise?

A part may be worth several pounds, or maybe even several hundred pounds.  A Car is worth several hundred pounds to several thousand pounds.  Extra protection because of the extra risk.

As previously said, if the seller puts the car on eBay, we will see it anyway.  Oh, wait - You have to pay for eBay!

Nothing in life is free, and if you want to flog a car on OOF, you have to pay for it - by being part of the community.

As a saide note:  You'll get far less for an Omega on here than you would in the local papers.  We all know what we are looking for, and know what they are worth!

HTH!

Ok simple. How do you get ripped off buying a car you view and pay for face to face.

It's not about cost, it's about keeping cars with enthusiastic owners. As cars of this age just go to the scrap heap as it's easier.

Allow me to explain.  I will use yourself and I as an example.

You live in North Wales, I live in Bristol.

YOU are selling a car.  The advert is great, the car looks fantastic in pictures and I am very VERY interested.  We swap numbers and arrange a viewing.  I drive from Bristol to North Wales.... I might even get a train because "The car is mint, innit!".

I arrive at your house....... the car is a shit-pit.  I walk away, saddened.  OUT OF POCKET BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN/TRAINED ALL THE WAY UP TO NORTH WALES.

Understand now?

More active members tend to let us know how their cars are going...... usually you'll only post up about problems, but here, we like to comment also on when things are going well.  So to address your second point, we do keep cars running.  Usually, the cars sold on this forum are scrappers.  Either being broken to breathe new life into other cars, or sold as a whole to be revived.

Clear now, or are you going to argue the impossible?
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: mantaray on 10 January 2017, 21:42:57
Altho I understand the reson for there to be a post limit,but I do feel that 250 is a little high. But if this is down to softwhere as you say, then fare enough there is nothing you can do about it.

I have been a user for the last 6 year and yet only have 125 posts. Being 55 now, I am not a big internet poster and having dislexier does not help either. I tend to have a quick scan of new topics and offer  help if I can, which is not very often, or I am asking for advice. As the 2.5TD i have been running is the most reliable car I have owned, even needing help has not been very often.

I think a 100 to 150 post count would be enough to get a good feel for weither a user is good or not.

Just my thorghts, the admin have looked at the options and I am happy to except the rules, but healthy debate is always good.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Fraggles Rock on 10 January 2017, 22:22:38
As a Newbie myself, I can sympathise with the sentiments that the restrictions are there at all and how they could seem unfair...

That said, when I signed up, the rules are pretty clear, and you have to effectively sign a declaration that you have read and understood these when registering an account.

To my mind, this is reasonable, as is the limit... From what has been said previously, the principle is sound, and if someone doesn't agree to be bound by it, then surely, they don't have to register?
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Entwood on 10 January 2017, 22:26:07
As a Newbie myself, I can sympathise with the sentiments that the restrictions are there at all and how they could seem unfair...

That said, when I signed up, the rules are pretty clear, and you have to effectively sign a declaration that you have read and understood these when registering an account.

To my mind, this is reasonable, as is the limit... From what has been said previously, the principle is sound, and if someone doesn't agree to be bound by it, then surely, they don't have to register?

Careful now .... showing common sense, logic and an understanding of the rules is a rare trait on OOF ... are you an incognito admin ....?  :) :)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 10 January 2017, 22:44:34
As a Newbie myself, I can sympathise with the sentiments that the restrictions are there at all and how they could seem unfair...

That said, when I signed up, the rules are pretty clear, and you have to effectively sign a declaration that you have read and understood these when registering an account.

To my mind, this is reasonable, as is the limit... From what has been said previously, the principle is sound, and if someone doesn't agree to be bound by it, then surely, they don't have to register?

And the Member Of The Month is awarded to*......................................... Fraggle Rock!  8)










































*There is no Member Of The Month award, soz.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: ronnyd on 10 January 2017, 22:47:37
Get involved with the word association thread and you will get to 250 posts PDQ. ;)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Fraggles Rock on 10 January 2017, 22:53:59
Lol no ;D

That's a shame Broomies Mate... I was hoping for at least a chocolate digestive  :D
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Broomies Mate on 10 January 2017, 23:37:24
Lol no ;D

That's a shame Broomies Mate... I was hoping for at least a chocolate digestive  :D

I promise to you, if you PM me your name and address (it can be a fake name and maybe a work address or whatever), I will make sure there is not just one, but a whole packet of chocolate digestives.  :y

Now, you can see I am a long standing member (even with a small Post-Count), but I am completely trustworthy.  Several members have met me, lots have my address.  That the way this shizzle works.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Fraggles Rock on 10 January 2017, 23:52:44
 ;D

Might just take you up on that...
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: baggers on 10 January 2017, 23:54:01
15 Months in Omega Ownership and not needed any help?  Jesus - You must be good!  :D :D

Seriously though - There are genuine, and VERY obvious reasons why selling a car on this forum is only available to the more active members (lets be fair, 250 posts is not a large amount).

Don't feel disheartened..... Stick it up on eBay, we see all those too!  :y

I'm curious to why 250 posts makes you a safe seller? and for those of us who prefer to read rather than post a comment on everything 250 posts is a lot.

Thanks


Very true.

Maybe a few thumbs up  :y on a few post or I could..............
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: baggers on 10 January 2017, 23:55:25
............. continue the post like this for one more.

then it would be faulse figures but like said if you read post a lot unfortunately you don@t get there>
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: baggers on 11 January 2017, 00:04:01
Just noticed I'm nearly there and been a member just over 10 years.   :D
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 January 2017, 00:23:44
............. continue the post like this for one more.

then it would be faulse figures but like said if you read post a lot unfortunately you don@t get there>
Thing is, that sort of behaviour is pretty transparent  ::)

Just noticed I'm nearly there and been a member just over 10 years.   :D
Best contribute more then :D
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: zirk on 11 January 2017, 01:31:23
;D

Might just take you up on that...
See, another indecisive Newbie Member, obviously not trustworthy, so send me the chocolate biscuits instead.  :)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2017, 11:00:54
Get involved with the word association thread and you will get to 250 posts PDQ. ;)
Yes, That might get looked at very soon ;)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 January 2017, 13:14:51
Get involved with the word association thread and you will get to 250 posts PDQ. ;)
Yes, That might get looked at very soon ;)
The thread itself or the principle of the one word post?
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2017, 18:30:03
Get involved with the word association thread and you will get to 250 posts PDQ. ;)
Yes, That might get looked at very soon ;)
The thread itself or the principle of the one word post?
That thread.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: TheBoy on 11 January 2017, 18:33:19
or the principle of the one word post?
Being frequently chastised for providing concise, clear, to-the-point, well-defined, distinct, one word answers, I'm not sure I'd be one to enforce that :P
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 January 2017, 18:47:54
or the principle of the one word post?
Being frequently chastised for providing concise, clear, to-the-point, well-defined, distinct, one word answers, I'm not sure I'd be one to enforce that :P
Well, now that you mention it ::)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: ronnyd on 11 January 2017, 20:55:28
Must admit that i,m surprised that it,s gone on for so long. ???
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: henryd on 11 January 2017, 22:07:22
Shouldn't this be moved somewhere else ::)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: The Red Baron on 11 January 2017, 22:12:43
Like the bin perhaps.  ::)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: baggers on 12 January 2017, 00:04:04
Like the bin perhaps.  ::)

 :y
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 January 2017, 18:35:57
I am a newbie who has been a member for over a year since I purchased an Omega Elite Estate.  It has now failed its MOT and I am going to have to scrap it due to the ruling that I cannot advertise my vehicle for sale since I have not posted more than 250 posts.  I do understand the reason for this rule but feel it is rather excessive.  Someone out there would have been able to give her a good home and do the work necessary welding work to get her through and end up with a beautiful car with lots of extras.
 >:( :(
Ever thought about Ebay, Gumtree or Preloved ::)
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Andy B on 14 January 2017, 18:52:39
hello stranger ....  :y
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: korum on 15 January 2017, 18:16:45
Just noticed I'm nearly there and been a member just over 10 years.   :D

Im a month away from my 10th anniversary and am no where near it  ;D
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: annihilator on 15 January 2017, 18:33:32
you can all stop bickering now,I've bought it and I couldn't be happier. :-*
John.
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Ant - Petrol Blue Thirty Two on 19 January 2017, 15:50:18
Hi.  I agree with both and understand the rationale for both too.  I don't post a lot on here but I have owned my 32 elite since 2007 and have been on the site most weeks for approaching 10 years now (and a menber for most of that) reading lots of posts which is great and very helpful and informative - and appreciated.  I haven't posted a lot as I can't/don't do many jobs on the car when needed but I have added a small contribution from time to time.    However, when I come to sell my 32, I would prefer it went to another enthusiast and I would like to think it might be a member on this site who might want to own my particular model and love and 'cotton wool it' for another ten years as I have.  Some distances might fit for selling and viewing -for example I live near Bristol.  I don't have a strong case to make (or to pass comment) as I am a small contributor but I'll never get near 250 posts...............just saying like.     
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: The Red Baron on 19 January 2017, 16:32:22
But you could Ant if you joined in with discussions.  :y
Title: Re: rules on being able to sell car
Post by: Fraggles Rock on 20 January 2017, 09:39:46
Doesn't take much, and they soon add up ;)