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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: nilocp on 05 February 2017, 20:52:51

Title: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 05 February 2017, 20:52:51: Manual gearbox on a 2.5 V6 - are there any bolts at the top of the bellhousing?

I cannot see any, but box will not come off engine :-[ :-[

Colin
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: RobG on 05 February 2017, 21:05:39: 3 from memory
This may help
(http://images.omegaowners.com/images/guides/Omega_Clutch_Change/CC4.jpg)
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 05 February 2017, 21:14:25: Thanks rob, makes sense but htf do you get to them?? :'(
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Andy H on 05 February 2017, 21:28:03: Three long wobble bars.

(https://dccf75d8gej24.cloudfront.net/images/products/04/040214895/5F073531-7992-4869-8FB3-7339DA8E3168-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 05 February 2017, 21:30:17: Ta lads will have a go tomorrow :D :D
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 February 2017, 22:21:02: Quote from: nilocp on 05 February 2017, 21:14:25
Thanks rob, makes sense but htf do you get to them?? :'(

From the top is easiest, if its similar to the autobox. ;)
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: terry paget on 05 February 2017, 22:51:45: From below you can feel the heads of the top bolts, but not see them. With my left hand on the bolt head I could guide the extended socket spanner on to it.
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 February 2017, 02:29:51: Only ever done it from underneath. Be aware that there are three different sizes of bolt, so be careful how you store them ;)
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: terry paget on 06 February 2017, 22:45:33: Also be aware that Haynes barely mentions the plate between gear lever base and gearbox, and the Forum clutch change guide not at all. If left in place you will not remove the gearbox.
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 February 2017, 22:54:24: Quote from: terry paget on 06 February 2017, 22:45:33
Also be aware that Haynes barely mentions the plate between gear lever base and gearbox, and the Forum clutch change guide not at all. If left in place you will not remove the gearbox.
Two 13mm bolts to release the plate from the box, plus two spring clips to release the gear lever from the linkage (under the rubber boot), plate and lever stay put, but plate needs a jiggle to raise the front as the box comes out ;)
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 07 February 2017, 09:36:10: Thanks guys, that is a real pig! Coundnt get around to 1 bolt because of aircon pipes (V6)

So I decided to drop the subframe, engine and the lot on the floor!

It is out now :y :y :y
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: serek on 07 February 2017, 13:33:45: Quote from: nilocp on 07 February 2017, 09:36:10
Thanks guys, that is a real pig! Coundnt get around to 1 bolt because of aircon pipes (V6)

So I decided to drop the subframe, engine and the lot on the floor!

It is out now :y :y :y

WOW :o subframe down , never done this before , but you got there in the end :y
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: terry paget on 07 February 2017, 16:37:11: Gosh! That's heroic. Good luck putting all that back again. I find the gearbox heavy enough to replace.
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 February 2017, 16:44:51: Quote from: terry paget on 07 February 2017, 16:37:11
Gosh! That's ~~heroic~~madness. Good luck putting all that back again. I find the gearbox heavy enough to replace.
Fixed. :)
Windscreen scuttle panel off would have given access to the bolts from the top. :o
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 07 February 2017, 16:54:38: MigV6 thanks for that! Bit late now.

I am surprised nobody else mentioned that :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: nilocp on 07 February 2017, 16:55:22: Terry, it isnt going back, it's a scrapper!
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 February 2017, 16:57:02: In that case, fair play to you. :y
Title: Re: Manual Gearbox removal
Post by: terry paget on 07 February 2017, 20:41:44: Now I understand what is going on. I have been advised that the Omega manual box is highly regarded, and you can get £160 for it, especially if it comes with a prop shaft and gear lever. The last manual Omega I scrapped I got £30 for it, and I let the gearbox etc. go with it.