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Title: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 11 February 2017, 16:22:08
Hi all

Even it was a little fresh outside (4,5°C) I started the welding season on my Opel Omega winter Caravan.

Location rear right with all typical Omega problems, but not so bad as on the left side (I did the left side two years ago)

(https://s29.postimg.org/6pt7u4d6f/IMG_7609.jpg)

This I started from. I decided to begin with the side wall. There was no hole, the inner parts looked not so bad.

(https://s28.postimg.org/3ty8a2nsd/IMG_7612.jpg)

Because I was in fear, that rust was located between the upper and lower side wall, I cutted out the complete area.

(https://s29.postimg.org/wvuvaldbb/IMG_7613.jpg)

Fitting the repair - part

(https://s29.postimg.org/pp3namfbb/IMG_7616.jpg)

No Presto!

(https://s27.postimg.org/a17tlmdqb/IMG_7618.jpg)

Right of the new sheet, the new outer arch will be connected. I created this sheet today.

(https://s28.postimg.org/cirkkm1cd/IMG_7624.jpg)

(https://s28.postimg.org/3qg4ppp3x/IMG_7625.jpg)

But I think, there will be also some rust problems with the inner arch. So tomorrow I will open the ara to look inside.

I will report.

Rolf


Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: anV6 on 11 February 2017, 17:22:59
Looks great Rolf!

A bit of an artist with the metal you are  :y

Nice job.

Do you have a press set up to bend the sheets or is it all by hand/hammer?
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 11 February 2017, 18:22:18
Hi

I only have a welder, a flex, a vice and different kind of hammers.

Hopelessly cars are a challenge! It s a great joy for me to build something out of scratch.

I love my Omegas  ::)

Rolf
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Andy B on 11 February 2017, 18:29:32
Well done Rolf. You're a braver man then me with a grinder.  :y :y
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: anV6 on 11 February 2017, 18:36:17
Hi

I only have a welder, a flex, a vice and different kind of hammers.

Hopelessly cars are a challenge! It s a great joy for me to build something out of scratch.

I love my Omegas  ::)

Rolf

Even more impressive. :y
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 11 February 2017, 21:58:11
Hi Andy B and anV6

THX for your mental support. See what tomorrow will bring. I will report....

Rolf
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Webby the Bear on 12 February 2017, 10:23:22
Looking awesome mate.

If forced I can weld two pieces of thin metal together. But I hate it. I reckon it's a natural talent and I just don't have the ability.

Well done
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Nick W on 12 February 2017, 11:38:30
Looking awesome mate.

If forced I can weld two pieces of thin metal together. But I hate it. I reckon it's a natural talent and I just don't have the ability.



It's just practice. And is one of the reasons why you should start welding thin metal
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Andy B on 12 February 2017, 11:46:13
Hi

I only have a welder, a flex, a vice and different kind of hammers.

Hopelessly cars are a challenge! It s a great joy for me to build something out of scratch.

I love my Omegas  ::)

Rolf

Can I ask what you mean by 'a flex'? I think something was lost in translation ..... though I'm  always impressed when someone can use a forum that's not their native language  :y
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Nick W on 12 February 2017, 13:05:09
Hi

I only have a welder, a flex, a vice and different kind of hammers.

Hopelessly cars are a challenge! It s a great joy for me to build something out of scratch.

I love my Omegas  ::)

Rolf

Can I ask what you mean by 'a flex'? I think something was lost in translation ..... though I'm  always impressed when someone can use a forum that's not their native language  :y


Got to be a folder, or brake. Doing long folds hammering on metal clamped between two pieces of angle is really tedious if you need them to look good.
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 12 February 2017, 16:09:07
@ webby, thank you very much. Motivation is needed on this projekt.

@ Andy and Nick

A flex is a nice little machine to cut or grind metal. Thought the word is international. The German word for it is "Winkelschleifer". What it is in English?

(https://s21.postimg.org/d1hjjws47/IMG_6353.jpg)

You see my "flex" in front of my Omega Caravan. The picture was taken two years ago, when I did "a little repair" on the left arches.

What went on today, I will report later this evening.

Rolf
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 February 2017, 16:11:15
Angle grinder with a sanding disc :-\
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 12 February 2017, 16:21:08
Oh, angle grinder and Winkelschleifer is 1:1 the same. But normally we say "flex"
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Nick W on 12 February 2017, 18:00:15
Oh, angle grinder and Winkelschleifer is 1:1 the same. But normally we say "flex"


Usually just a 'grinder'. Or if you're stupid enough to run it without the guard in place, 'death wheel' ;D
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 February 2017, 18:05:30
Or dropping on your face with the guard fitted, aka the nearlydeath wheel :-[
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 12 February 2017, 18:17:53
@ Nick

Funny, but here in Germany is a grinder a machine, with a swinging plate covered with normal sand paper. Also called "Schwingschleifer"
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Nick W on 12 February 2017, 18:29:10
@ Nick

Funny, but here in Germany is a grinder a machine, with a swinging plate covered with normal sand paper. Also called "Schwingschleifer"


That's an '(orbital) sander' to us. Like grinders there are different types, and you normally only use the full name when you buy them.
Title: Re: Welding season opened!!
Post by: Zirfeld on 12 February 2017, 19:50:16
Nice conversation, helps understanding each other....

But back to the workshop.

Today I parked my Caravan into the in the workshop of the company, where normally plastic parts are produced. Over the weekend I can do there whatever I want, because I always have an eye over the machines and keep them running 24 hours a day. A very good place to work on a car in wintertime, always dry and warm, a little noisy, but all kinds of tools around....

(https://s8.postimg.org/f1w8lutlx/IMG_7631.jpg)

Today I wanted to get an overview about the condition of the inner arch right side and repair it if necessary. So I opened the outer surface carefully to get a look inside.

(https://s3.postimg.org/bsu0da1ar/IMG_7634.jpg)

First I found that the Caravan was damaged in this area before. I found a Polyester layer under the painting. This will cause many problems, because it is difficult to find the original surface - level. But today I concentrated on the inner arch.

First I built a paper model like I always do, then I set it up in metal.

(https://s10.postimg.org/bbyv12mjt/IMG_7638.jpg)

Cut out the rust Rolf!

(https://s27.postimg.org/nl83hzer7/IMG_7640.jpg)

New part in position and welded in.

(https://s8.postimg.org/psr9h3sh1/IMG_7641.jpg)

Because my time runs out this afternoon and in sight with the polyester problems, I closed the hole in the outer surface with a "temporary sheet". I have to think about to go further. The Caravan is an daily driver. He MUST be useable Monday morning.

More next week.

Regards

Rolf