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Title: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 16:38:00
Warning note to E39ists...

The front lower arm bolts through an insert. Brute force and heat produced this result...

http://share.photobucket.com/shareprofile/indexshare.php?id=NTcxMTY=

Assuming that I can successfully liberate the insert, I suspect that it's not designed to be removed from the hub carrier and should therefore be binned rather than refitted... Thoughts :-\
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 16:43:27
More worryingly, I discovered this notch caused by the arch liner rubbing... :o
http://share.photobucket.com/shareprofile/indexshare.php?id=NTcxMTg=

Which is why I started on this side rather than the one that was actually worn... ::)
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 February 2017, 17:07:05
Yes, that doesn't look good, on both counts.  :-\

Omegas are quite good, you know. You should try one... ;)
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 17:10:19
 :P
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Kevin Wood on 16 February 2017, 17:20:58
Is it a cast ali knuckle, then? Guessing so, if it needs an insert.

I wonder if putting the knuckle in the oven, insert in the freezer, smear of threadlock on it and knock it back in will work? :y

If you can get the ball joint separated from it, of course.

Worth putting a big washer on the back just in case the answer's no....
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 17:25:02
Balljoint now Donald and insert still very much welded to the shaft. Refitting the old arm is a lottery that I won't be buying a ticket for.
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 17:44:20
Balljoint now Donald and insert still very much welded to the shaft. Refitting the old arm is a lottery that I won't be buying a ticket for.
That said, the insert if fitted from above with the nut and washer underneath... Would keep it mobile until new hub carrier arrives :-\
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 16 February 2017, 18:13:10
Linkys no workys...  :(
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Nick W on 16 February 2017, 18:18:21
Balljoint now Donald and insert still very much welded to the shaft. Refitting the old arm is a lottery that I won't be buying a ticket for.


This is one reason why the two hammer method of breaking baljoints should be used whenever possible. You need to shock tapers apart rather than force them
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 18:32:59
That didn't work  :'( not helped by it being in the middle of the carrier casting...
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 16 February 2017, 18:57:25
How on earth have u managed that taxi? I did lower arms on a 5 series last week and the balljoints just popped out
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: X30XE on 16 February 2017, 19:16:18
Balljoint now Donald and insert still very much welded to the shaft. Refitting the old arm is a lottery that I won't be buying a ticket for.


This is one reason why the two hammer method of breaking baljoints should be used whenever possible. You need to shock tapers apart rather than force them

Not saying you're wrong... as you're older and wiser than I.. but I've never had any luck with impact removal of tapers. I always have to use the ball joint splitter type devices  :(  Or "drift" the clamp apart.
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: X30XE on 16 February 2017, 19:16:38
Linkys no workys...  :(

Turn off adblock on this page only ;)
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: X30XE on 16 February 2017, 19:17:24
More worryingly, I discovered this notch caused by the arch liner rubbing... :o
http://share.photobucket.com/shareprofile/indexshare.php?id=NTcxMTg=

Which is why I started on this side rather than the one that was actually worn... ::)


Shhhhhut the front door! I hope that's an orginal arm to have worn that far in!  :o
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: X30XE on 16 February 2017, 19:18:04
Warning note to E39ists...

The front lower arm bolts through an insert. Brute force and heat produced this result...

http://share.photobucket.com/shareprofile/indexshare.php?id=NTcxMTY=

Assuming that I can successfully liberate the insert, I suspect that it's not designed to be removed from the hub carrier and should therefore be binned rather than refitted... Thoughts :-\

Did you OIL it first? ;) ;) Ain't karma a bitch  :D
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 19:21:46
Of course  ::) and yup...  In that order :D
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Entwood on 16 February 2017, 20:41:45
:(  All I get is a white page with "Photobucket" on it .. no piccies at all .. :(
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: X30XE on 16 February 2017, 20:47:08
:(  All I get is a white page with "Photobucket" on it .. no piccies at all .. :(

As before; turn adblock off ;)
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Entwood on 16 February 2017, 20:47:56
:(  All I get is a white page with "Photobucket" on it .. no piccies at all .. :(

As before; turn adblock off ;)

Tried that .. :(

EDIT

Disable adguard, reboot, piccie visible ... what a pain ...  :(
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Bigron on 16 February 2017, 20:55:39
I hope I'm not in egg-sucking territory here, but when using the two hammer approach, the non-hitting hammer needs to be substantially heavier than the hitting one: a "pop" is then virtually guaranteed!   :y 8)

Ron.
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 21:47:26
:(  All I get is a white page with "Photobucket" on it .. no piccies at all .. :(

As before; turn adblock off ;)

Tried that .. :(

EDIT

Disable adguard, reboot, piccie visible ... what a pain ...  :(
Tell me about it... updated Photobucket is shite :(
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Mr Gav on 16 February 2017, 22:06:02
:(  All I get is a white page with "Photobucket" on it .. no piccies at all .. :(

As before; turn adblock off ;)

Tried that .. :(

EDIT

Disable adguard, reboot, piccie visible ... what a pain ...  :(
Tell me about it... updated Photobucket is shite :(

Yup...full of ads and takes forever to upload photo`s
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 22:10:52
Notch...
(https://pb-samsung.s3.amazonaws.com/1487263263718.jpg)

Confounded insert...
(https://pb-samsung.s3.amazonaws.com/1487262720688.jpg)

Bit big, but should be ad free ;)
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: henryd on 16 February 2017, 22:12:45
Notch...
(https://pb-samsung.s3.amazonaws.com/1487263263718.jpg)

Amazing that a plastic arch liner will do that although I've seen rubber pipes wear through steel ones which seems odd :-X
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 February 2017, 22:16:08
Obviously had a low level knock at some point, both lower arches being replaced with new ;)

Insert soaking over night, but be train to work :'(
Title: Re: opps oppsety opps opps
Post by: aaronjb on 17 February 2017, 09:07:11
The arms look damn near identical to the ones on my E64 with one exception - the balljoints are not tapered on the E64 and don't seem to go into inserts (in fact getting the nut off a non-tapered balljoint was the biggest pain in the arris on that job!)..

BTW I have started using imgbb.com instead of photobucket because the latter now only loads completely for me about one time in ten and somehow manages to hammer the CPU so hard (all the embedded ads and crap I guess) that the fans ramp up to max..