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Title: 10 ton press
Post by: razzo on 18 February 2017, 13:44:12
Anyone know if they would be enough for pressing out suspension bushes, bearings & the like or would something a bit heavier duty be the order of the day?
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: X30XE on 18 February 2017, 14:02:10
I use these type http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222275711016

Much more controlled and safe.  For the times when you're trying to push something with no hole through the middle you'd probably be better off bunging someone a fiver at a local garage with a 50ton press.  Depends how much use you're going to get out of it I suppose. 
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: biggriffin on 18 February 2017, 14:13:10
Easiest way to remove the bushes from omega wish-bones hack-saw straight tro the bush, then into the metal sleeve, then prise out with big screwdriver or hammer n chisel.

I use a 50 tonne press at work to push new ones in,.
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Nick W on 18 February 2017, 14:28:42
Anyone know if they would be enough for pressing out suspension bushes, bearings & the like or would something a bit heavier duty be the order of the day?


Easily enough to do most car stuff. Unlike a 50ton press they're affordable and don't take up much room. You're far less likely to damage the fairly flimsy car components too.


There's not many jobs on Omega where a press is helpful, let alone necessary.


Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: tidla on 18 February 2017, 14:46:32
The only time ive needed a press was on my Citroen van where the front wheel bearings about 5" big.

Any other job, burn/cut bash out , and bash in.

Home made kit similar to the one posted for hgv spring eye bushes.
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Nick W on 18 February 2017, 15:20:10
Easiest way to remove the bushes from omega wish-bones hack-saw straight tro the bush, then into the metal sleeve, then prise out with big screwdriver or hammer n chisel.

I use a 50 tonne press at work to push new ones in,.


Not as easy as this, which would also fit new stock bushes if anybody is daft enough to do that:


(https://www.dropbox.com/s/56mfp6cxdqzk6v4/CompleteAssemby.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Webby the Bear on 18 February 2017, 16:16:33
We use a 10 ton press. It does 90% of what we ask it to do. If I was to guess I'd say MOST bearings start to give up with approx. 5k on the gauge. If it starts to get up to 8k I start to fill my pants  ;D
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 February 2017, 19:42:49
If anyone is looking to actually answer Rozzos q re 10 ton press.... 1-5ton depending on fit and corrosion for a vertical wishbone bush, so more than ample, but 10ton will struggle with the front wb bush if it's rusted in not that anyone bothers more than cutting those out for fitting poly bushes. It's quite possible to get by without a press for omega but they are handy (with the right drifts )

If that helps :y
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 18 February 2017, 20:32:44
10 ton will do it in most cases, if it does not move then a little warm (it does not take much) whilst it's in the press will release them
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Nick W on 18 February 2017, 21:16:16
DG makes a good point about the tooling: if you can't make various drifts, supports, clamps etc then a press is a waste of money. There is only so much you can achieve using sockets as press tools ::)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Andy B on 18 February 2017, 21:17:09
If it ain't coming out with 10 tonnes, it's going to need a differenter approach  ;)


As Webby says, by the time the gauge gets to 8 (ours at work is 20T) it makes one hell of a bang when it lets go
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Webby the Bear on 18 February 2017, 21:40:28
If it ain't coming out with 10 tonnes, it's going to need a differenter approach  ;)


As Webby says, by the time the gauge gets to 8 (ours at work is 20T) it makes one hell of a bang when it lets go

I remember my first ever pressed in wheel bearing went awesome.....my second ever was a different story  ;D I got it mounted with the weight being supported on the ears for the brake carrier. Rookie mistake. That sod got to around the aforementioned 8 ton before the ears broke off....and the whole knuckle shot through and smashed in to the bench with a very scary bang.  £350 later for a new knuckle......  :'(

But hey. I never did it again  :) ;D
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Andy H on 18 February 2017, 21:47:11
DG makes a good point about the tooling: if you can't make various drifts, supports, clamps etc then a press is a waste of money. There is only so much you can achieve using sockets as press tools ::)
I used a 10 ton bottle jack in a frame I made out of steel channel to successfully change all the bushes on my Range Rover. I tried to use it to press the bushes out of an Omega wishbone (without a set of decent drifts) and destroyed the wishbone.  :(

10 ton is plenty. The important part is having the correct diameter drifts.
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Andy B on 18 February 2017, 23:05:39
....

10 ton is plenty. The important part is having the correct diameter drifts.

in a nut shell .......  :y Especially with a pressed steel wishbone  ;)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: 106pete on 19 February 2017, 07:49:07
I find the biggest problem with a press is having the right size spacer to fit the bush. I think you can buy full kits so I'd recommend them aswell. Personally I have unlimited sizes of sockets so they work perfectly.

There are other ways if your thinking outside the box
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/106pete/32618BBD-E8AF-46E4-B184-BCB24D5A0B46_zpscnxicw0e.png) (http://s35.photobucket.com/user/106pete/media/32618BBD-E8AF-46E4-B184-BCB24D5A0B46_zpscnxicw0e.png.html)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 February 2017, 11:02:08
I trust you threw those wishbones out after that...
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: 106pete on 19 February 2017, 13:45:20
I take no credit for that genius example  ::)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 19 February 2017, 18:25:43
I do have the genuine VX drifts for the wishbone bushes
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: TheBoy on 20 February 2017, 16:35:08
I do have the genuine VX drifts for the wishbone bushes
I might need to borrow, once I've sorted the more pressing needs to the cars...  ...no pun intended :P
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: omegod on 20 February 2017, 22:56:31
I had to take a BMW trailing arm to an engineering shop with a 100 tonne press, the guy said even that was struggling to get the bearing out but it popped eventually
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 February 2017, 07:00:09
I had to take a BMW trailing arm to an engineering shop with a 100 tonne press, the guy said even that was struggling to get the bearing out but it popped eventually
Ho hum... ::)
Title: Re: 10 ton press
Post by: 106pete on 21 February 2017, 07:47:55
That must have gone with a good bang.

With bushes I just hole saw out the rubber then quick hacksaw through the outer ring and knock it out, rarely take the complete arm off the car.