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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 20 February 2017, 22:27:46
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..... But, I have never had a new(er) car, and it was too good a deal to pass by :y
2.0 TDCi, 6 Speed, one careful (family) owner and 60k miles with FSH.
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/1.jpg)
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/2.jpg)
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/3.jpg)
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/4.jpg)
The only mark of note, was this one:
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/5.jpg)
Having decided I couldn't do any worse than the chap who murdered the MV6 door, I had a go myself:
(http://www.uk-chat.co.uk/mondeo/6.jpg)
Reset the trip computer before heading home, and after the 40 mile trip (all twisties and backroads) the display was reading 49mpg.
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I initially thought it had more previous owners, and about 20k more miles than this, until we went to look and have a chat. But in light of the new information, it seemed like a no brainer at the price we paid :y
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Unfortunately it looks to have one too many pedals. ::)
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nice :y
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For about 2 years my working life revovled around a similar Mondeo.
For what it`s worth, some things I noticed with the cars
I found it powerful & predictable over all road conditions.
We had several in the company I worked for at the time & tried them all
One of the first with 300 miles on the clock for some reason had annoying things from the off
Odd rattles & squeaks would come & go. somehere a droning noise would become apparent up thru the revs
On another car a dull noise what sounded like a worn wheel bearing ??? & wind noise at certain speeds. The cruise control would also decide to randomly to turn itself off & throw warning lights on & off.
sounds odd now, but we all liked the silver car :y it seemed tighter & quieter than the others.
To my mind the QA inspection process must have been flawed somewhere along the build :-\
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My best friend has one of these (same yr, 2.0 TDCI 130 I think, TitX) seems a nice thing to knock about in. He has no complaints so far, bought at 70k ish, now 80k odd.
But surely you'll miss the rusty wheel arches and sub 30mpg that Omegas excel at ;D
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My best friend has one of these (same yr, 2.0 TDCI 130 I think, TitX) seems a nice thing to knock about in. He has no complaints so far, bought at 70k ish, now 80k odd.
But surely you'll miss the rusty wheel arches and sub 30mpg that Omegas excel at ;D
I still have an omega ;)
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Don't know how many varients there are, this is a 140ps and it has bags of punch :y
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Good car for the the daily runabout, and no auto gearbox to go boom. Just give that engine some new fully synth C3/C2 classed oil at good intervals.
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They look even better with the factory lip kit on :y
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Looking good James, enjoy :y
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Don't know how many varients there are, this is a 140ps and it has bags of punch :y
I think you have the pick there! The 2.0's came in several variants of approximately 110, 140 and 165bhp (I think ford tweaked these up through the life of the engine) and then a 175 and a 200 bhp 2.2 diesel lump.
Then you have a bewildering array of trim levels sitting over that. From memory I think Zetec is pretty good.
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell you that all the injectors will fail, the clutch will explode and the engine will drop out the bottom of the car. It wouldn't be OOF otherwise ;)
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I quite like the Mundano. Like all modern diesels, it has expensive issues when it gets a few miles on it, but if you want a diesel, thats the price you pay.
Hope it serves you well.
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Looks good, James. :y
Go on then, how much did you pay? :)
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Looks pretty good to me. 😉
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Don't know how many varients there are, this is a 140ps and it has bags of punch :y
I think you have the pick there! The 2.0's came in several variants of approximately 110, 140 and 165bhp (I think ford tweaked these up through the life of the engine) and then a 175 and a 200 bhp 2.2 diesel lump.
Then you have a bewildering array of trim levels sitting over that. From memory I think Zetec is pretty good.
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to tell you that all the injectors will fail, the clutch will explode and the engine will drop out the bottom of the car. It wouldn't be OOF otherwise ;)
Zetecs are one up from Base ;)
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How much did you decide it was worth in the end just out of interest? :)
[ note : not what did you actually pay for it, as that's not necessarily any of our business :P]
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How much did you decide it was worth in the end just out of interest? :)
[ note : not what did you actually pay for it, as that's not necessarily any of our business :P]
Quite right......and I would never ask such a crass question. :)
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How much did you decide it was worth in the end just out of interest? :)
[ note : not what did you actually pay for it, as that's not necessarily any of our business :P]
Quite right......and I would never ask such a crass question. :)
3....2...1..... ;D ;D ;D
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Looks a bit like mine James.... :y
However I would never of bought that Mondeo....it doesn't have LED DRL's ::) ;D
Out of interest, do all the buttons work on the button cluster on the RHS of the steering wheel?
On mine the down button works when it wants to and ive driven another Mondeo where none of the buttons worked....
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Looks a bit like mine James.... :y
However I would never of bought that Mondeo....it doesn't have LED DRL's ::) ;D
Out of interest, do all the buttons work on the button cluster on the RHS of the steering wheel?
On mine the down button works when it wants to and ive driven another Mondeo where none of the buttons worked....
The buttons aren't necessarily connected to anything...
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£2850.
And worth every penny, given the low mileage and history. Yes there are some starting at £3200 online so you could argue £400 discount isn't that much, but, they are saloons, and prepared to bet they are dogs. They have twice the miles, a world apart from a one family owner whom you know is utterly trustworthy, and a genuine reason for parting with it.
160 mile round trip today, all A roads. 54mpg and a total joy to drive.
It will save me £100 a month on fuel on my commute alone, which will pay for the car in 2 years.
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Yes every button and menu works.
Only complaint is poor speaker quality in the doors, this will have to be addressed, as with the mileages I will be doing, decent tunes are a must :y
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£2850.
And worth every penny, given the low mileage and history. Yes there are some starting at £3200 online so you could argue £400 discount isn't that much, but, they are saloons, and prepared to bet they are dogs. They have twice the miles, a world apart from a one family owner whom you know is utterly trustworthy, and a genuine reason for parting with it.
160 mile round trip today, all A roads. 54mpg and a total joy to drive.
It will save me £100 a month on fuel on my commute alone, which will pay for the car in 2 years.
:y
There's always a genuine reason for parting with it. 99 times out of 100 with affordable second hand cars that genuine reason is because it needs a costly repair :D So yeah, if you can find a car that is being got rid of due to other circumstances you're well on the way to a good buy!
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
I think £2850 for a '10 plate' with only 60,000 miles beneath it's wheels James has done extremely well. :y
As for the 'lorry fuel' part of the equation, we will have to differ. ;)
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
At 70 MPH in 8th gear my car is ticking over at barely 1400 RPM......on proper fuel. :)
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
At 70 MPH in 8th gear my car is ticking over at barely 1400 RPM......on proper fuel. :)
Yeah but that's 8 gears, with twice as many cylinders, with 6 gears and 4 pots on diesel is at 1100, give me 8 gears, some more cylinders and it would be more like 500 rpm :P
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
At 70 MPH in 8th gear my car is ticking over at barely 1400 RPM......on proper fuel. :)
Yeah but that's 8 gears, with twice as many cylinders, with 6 gears and 4 pots on diesel is at 1100, give me 8 gears, some more cylinders and it would be more like 500 rpm :P
70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
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70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
Yes, no chance of breaking your neck noticing when you plant your right foot with that gearing. ;)
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70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
Yes, no chance of breaking your neck noticing when you plant your right foot with that gearing. ;)
I imagine acceleration would be 'glacially slow' if at all. :y
My car is much the same in 8th gear which is similar to an 'old fashioned 'overdrive. No real forward movement despite nearly 500 lb ft of torque.
According to Jaguar the 8 speed ZF auto gives better economy and CO2 figures than the previous 6 speed unit.
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About the same as my BMW (when it was working) 70 was comfortably less than 2,000 rpm.
Locking it in 8th basically meant no acceleration, but since the thing would drop 1-3 gears in the blink of an eye it wasn't really a problem. Also, being able to get mid to high 30's on a run in a car with that kind of performance was amazing (probably a touch more if you were masochistic enough to go for eco mode).
When they work, latest gen cars really are a marvel
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70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
Yes, no chance of breaking your neck noticing when you plant your right foot with that gearing. ;)
As I've found out not long after I got it, when I went to over take.....
6th -> 5th = Humm nope not enough go yet.
5th -> 4th = Ah that's better.
So quite often now my overtake method is say 55-65mph in 6th, drop it straight to 4th and it picks up very nicely. :)
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I'm really impressed with low down performance. 4th and Even 5th gears pull like a goodun.
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About the same as my BMW (when it was working) 70 was comfortably less than 2,000 rpm.
Locking it in 8th basically meant no acceleration, but since the thing would drop 1-3 gears in the blink of an eye it wasn't really a problem. Also, being able to get mid to high 30's on a run in a car with that kind of performance was amazing (probably a touch more if you were masochistic enough to go for eco mode).
When they work, latest gen cars really are a marvel
Any further developments, Jimmy?
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No not really. By law the finance company have 8 weeks to investigate and decide what they'll do. So they're going to take 8 weeks.
Apparently they've driven it 500miles, changed the battery and the problem hasn't re-occurred. But I can't get out of them in what order they did those things. There's also a case been raised with BMW UK.
Mixed messages still. Frustrating but until the 8 weeks are up I pretty much just have to swallow the platitudes from the customer services people.
My personal view is it's a transparent ploy to get customers into another BMW, to keep the cycle going.
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I'm speechless!,you wil not regret it.
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
At 70 MPH in 8th gear my car is ticking over at barely 1400 RPM......on proper fuel. :)
Yeah but that's 8 gears, with twice as many cylinders, with 6 gears and 4 pots on diesel is at 1100, give me 8 gears, some more cylinders and it would be more like 500 rpm :P
70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
I agree....at 70mph my Mondeo is around 1500 revs ... I don't need to change down to overtake at those revs :y
Plus I can get it in 6th at 50mph and its happy :) ....tunnie's would be able to that ....
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As you probably found out by now James......The Mondeo cambelt change interval is about 3 times that of an Omega :y
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Jaguar the 8 speed ZF auto...
...is horrifically unreliable on the early ones (2011 if memory serves right).
Mind you, I think the early 6 speed ones weren't great either. Seems ZF's need a year or 2 to refine them ;D
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Jaguar the 8 speed ZF auto...
...is horrifically unreliable on the early ones (2011 if memory serves right).
Mind you, I think the early 6 speed ones weren't great either. Seems ZF's need a year or 2 to refine them ;D
Now you tell me. ;D
Used in just about everything. I believe Jimmy's BMW has it and that has proved relia........well perhaps not. ;)
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Welcome to diesel, bags of low down torque, no need to spank the arse off the engine to get some power. Super low idle speed on the motorway and 700 miles from a tank of fuel 8)
At 70 MPH in 8th gear my car is ticking over at barely 1400 RPM......on proper fuel. :)
Yeah but that's 8 gears, with twice as many cylinders, with 6 gears and 4 pots on diesel is at 1100, give me 8 gears, some more cylinders and it would be more like 500 rpm :P
70 MPH at only 1100 RPM is incredibly leggy gearing even for a low revolution derv lump.
I agree....at 70mph my Mondeo is around 1500 revs ... I don't need to change down to overtake at those revs :y
Plus I can get it in 6th at 50mph and its happy :) ....tunnie's would be able to that ....
Think I was too low mine is around that too, 6th at 50 is no problem here either through the 50mph average camera road works
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I'm really impressed with low down performance. 4th and Even 5th gears pull like a goodun.
There are some that say you shouldn't drive below 1500rpm as it rattles the DMF to pieces... although exactly what the point of a diesel that you can't drive below 1500rpm is quite beyond me. I suspect they're just idiots personally. ::)
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I'm really impressed with low down performance. 4th and Even 5th gears pull like a goodun.
There are some that say you shouldn't drive below 1500rpm as it rattles the DMF to pieces... although exactly what the point of a diesel that you can't drive below 1500rpm is quite beyond me. I suspect they're just idiots personally. ::)
Yes, I heard that but couldnt make sense of it, I understand not creeping forward with the engine on tickover, but I would have thought that once the clutch is engaged and everythings locked up I dont see how it could damage the DMF
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I'm really impressed with low down performance. 4th and Even 5th gears pull like a goodun.
There are some that say you shouldn't drive below 1500rpm as it rattles the DMF to pieces... although exactly what the point of a diesel that you can't drive below 1500rpm is quite beyond me. I suspect they're just idiots personally. ::)
Yes, I heard that but couldnt make sense of it, I understand not creeping forward with the engine on tickover, but I would have thought that once the clutch is engaged and everythings locked up I dont see how it could damage the DMF
Which is exactly the technique to use in walking pace traffic, a dab of brake now & then saves the clutch pedal
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I'm really impressed with low down performance. 4th and Even 5th gears pull like a goodun.
There are some that say you shouldn't drive below 1500rpm as it rattles the DMF to pieces... although exactly what the point of a diesel that you can't drive below 1500rpm is quite beyond me. I suspect they're just idiots personally. ::)
Yes, I heard that but couldnt make sense of it, I understand not creeping forward with the engine on tickover, but I would have thought that once the clutch is engaged and everythings locked up I dont see how it could damage the DMF
Do DMFs lock up? I always assumed they were two concentric spring damped plates between the flywheel and the clutch no? :-\
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Yes, you're right, sorry, by lock up I meant that flywheel and clutch plate fully engaged so no relative movement.
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I think it's the SDS hammer drill effect the uncivilised 4 pot torquey diesel subjects the springs too that kills them. But the only logical solution would be to either uprate the DMF to handle it, or replace it with a solid one and hope the transmission doesn't suffer from the same. Driving everywhere at 1500rpm in a diesel... that way madness lies ::)
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Could be right, tbh I've always looked upon a DMF as a price of doing business in the frugal manual diesel market.
The only one I've ever needed doing was on my MK3 mondeo tddi, that got to about 85k on the original. So I just looked upon it as a sligtly premature clutch replacement. Then again I think that was cheap by today's standards at £700 for clutch, flywheel and fitting.
The thing with DMF's is its all about timing, you own the car from new, then over 80k (say) it will save you about £4k on fuel bills and then maybe £500 on tax over 5yrs, based on 40mpg vs 30mpg. So on that basis the extra £500 over a straight clutch change is worth it. But, if you buy that same car on 78k, then its a raw deal from the start as you're looking at running it up to 130k to see your money back.
My solution, I found one with a dmf that was on the way out and negotiated accordingly. That said, finding a seller that was willing to negotiate took some time ::)