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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Shackeng on 03 April 2017, 17:39:51
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I didn't know that it was permitted to have a male cox in the Ladies race, and don't ever remember it before. :-\
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I must admit, I've never given it much thought. ;D
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Women like male cox.... ;)
Ron.
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Touché Ron ;D
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Gender has been abolished at Universities. ;)
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Gender has been abolished at Universities. ;)
I'm heard their sociology courses are very creative these days, inventing appropriate titles for every type between Mr Male and Ms Female. ::) ::) ::) Poor little snowflakes get all upset if there is not one for their unique circumstances. ;D ;D ;D
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That weird lefty chef woman who writes for the Grauniad and pops up on the Beeb every other day - cant remember her name - is now very insistent on being gender non specific and will only be referred to as "they".
I dread to think what the world is going to be like after another couple of generations of these loons being taken seriously.
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That weird lefty chef woman who writes for the Grauniad and pops up on the Beeb every other day - cant remember her name - is now very insistent on being gender non specific and will only be referred to as "they".
I dread to think what the world is going to be like after another couple of generations of these loons being taken seriously.
Kim Jong Un is not such an unattractive proposition after all. It's happened before, on a smaller scale, and I can see it happening big time eventually. When things get just too weird......something happens to put everything back the way it was.
In our case, a ball of rock and gas.
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My only hope is that the pendulum will swing so far in one direction and then swing back the other way. We really are through the looking glass now. Nothing makes sense to anyone over the age of 40 these days.
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That weird lefty chef woman who writes for the Grauniad and pops up on the Beeb every other day - cant remember her name - is now very insistent on being gender non specific and will only be referred to as "they".
I dread to think what the world is going to be like after another couple of generations of these loons being taken seriously.
Frightening I hate to think what lies in store for my 4 Grandsons aged from 4 to 12.
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My only hope is that the pendulum will swing so far in one direction and then swing back the other way. We really are through the looking glass now. Nothing makes sense to anyone over the age of 40 these days.
It does to those of us in the hippy sixties who believed in another way and another type of World. The world that was the dull, grey and boring for the previous generations we needed to pass into history. We wanted to break away to a mass of colour and free creative expression. A World free of war and class stereotypes, were Woman were no longer tied to their domestic duties, and men free from the production rat race.
Obviously by the 1970s the hippy movement had collapsed and so many naive aims were not achieved. But we are freer now than we once were. There is a long way still to go, but at least everyone, including men, can show their emotions and be free of having to fit into an ideal of what society expects of them.
Let's rejoice we have come some way down the road of people just being who they are. It is those amongst us who are filled with hate and a feeling of injustice that would should fear.
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I'm going to be sick.
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It does to those of us in the hippy sixties who believed in another way and another type of World. The world that was the dull, grey and boring for the previous generations we needed to pass into history. We wanted to break away to a mass of colour and free creative expression. A World free of war and class stereotypes, were Woman were no longer tied to their domestic duties, and men free from the production rat race.
Did you wear a Kaftan Lizzie? :)
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It does to those of us in the hippy sixties who believed in another way and another type of World. The world that was the dull, grey and boring for the previous generations we needed to pass into history. We wanted to break away to a mass of colour and free creative expression. A World free of war and class stereotypes, were Woman were no longer tied to their domestic duties, and men free from the production rat race.
Did you wear a Kaftan Lizzie? :)
;D ;D no I didn't, but I wore plenty of clothes covered in flower patterns. My mum wouldn't let me go further than that! Wise woman my mum, who was a full on socialist who embraced some of the "new ideas". :D ;)
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I was a hippy in my early teens, and then progressed into the left wing mindset that often befell that generation.
Thankfully, being raised in a very strictly religious household, which I had rejected, taught me that I should question everything including my own beliefs.
This resulted in my realisation that the hippy culture was a nothing but a con which fooled a lot of young naïve people for a while. And left wing thinking is also a type of con, which seems to fool a lot of people who really should be old enough to know better.
The old saying "He who has not been a socialist before he was 40 has no heart. He who is still a socialist after the age of 40 has no head", rings very true with me.
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My only hope is that the pendulum will swing ........
My pendulum was swinging but I had just got out of the bath. ::)
.........We wanted to break away to a mass of colour and free creative expression.........
I had a stripey tank top and long hair, does that count. :-\ I haven't got either now. :(
What was this thread about. :-\
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Rods2 and Migv6, if what you say is true, I am afraid; VERY afraid - the luntics have taken over the asylum! When will the world get back to spinning on its axis properly again?
Truly, we have changed very little, fundamentally, in our gender-specific roles despite our veneer of sophistication and caveman ethics still apply.
It's amazing how many fish need bicycles.....
Ron.
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Rods2 and Migv6, if what you say is true, I am afraid; VERY afraid - the luntics have taken over the asylum! When will the world get back to spinning on its axis properly again?
Truly, we have changed very little, fundamentally, in our gender-specific roles despite our veneer of sophistication and caveman ethics still apply.
It's amazing how many fish need bicycles.....
Ron.
I mentioned the hippies in my previous post as it "happened" at a time when everyone under 30 wanted a change from what had gone before as I described. The hippies went and is now correctly seen as a naive movement with naive ideals that simplified the implications of the changes we all wanted. But the aims of that movement, with love and peace and equality it's main themes, continued.
Now we are seeing the benefits of those changes, especially with us women now being able to hold senior business and political positions and the world moving on, although as always with sometimes painful events taking place. Do we really want the World to return to it's old position. When nations would readily go to war and create a World War situation with millions being killed?
So what if male and female roles are swapped, as in the Boat Race the subject of this thread. Does it matter? In the grand scheme of things it just helps the trend towards some form of equality, liberty and freedom. Bloody revolutions have happened before now to gain that kind of advance.
We need a World with colour and light, where it is not the black and white world that it was before 1965 (my estimation as a contemporary of when things started to really changed) We now welcome that we as women have the right to vote, to have a bank account and own property, unlike in previous decades. Of being able to work in many environments once excluded to women, and men having the rights they do at work and play. Anyone who wants the pendulum to swing back is wishing for something that must not happen. If it did it would mean we are going into a period of revolution as very few will accept the working conditions and class divides of the past. In fact it is the opposite; we must go forward and make the further improvements that humanity requires. We need strong government and upholding of tradition, but we also need good socialist principles mixed in to give our children and grandchildren the fair World we have been striving for for so long. That is why I am a Conservative Socialist. ;)
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Lizzie, if what I said offended you, it was not my intention. I love strong, intelligent women -of whom you are clearly one - and am certainly not fazed by them. I enjoy a good debate/conversation and maybe I have slightly unconventional views on feminism, but I was a new man long before he was invented because I have always believed in “equal but different”, which is where I disagree with many feminists who want total equality – nature hasn’t planned it that way and we should celebrate the differences.
Vive la difference (French accent)! :-*
Ron.
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Lizzie, if what I said offended you, it was not my intention. I love strong, intelligent women -of whom you are clearly one - and am certainly not fazed by them. I enjoy a good debate/conversation and maybe I have slightly unconventional views on feminism, but I was a new man long before he was invented because I have always believed in “equal but different”, which is where I disagree with many feminists who want total equality – nature hasn’t planned it that way and we should celebrate the differences.
Vive la difference (French accent)! :-*
Ron.
Ahhh, Ron how could you offend me? :-* :-* :-*
No, I took no offense from your post, or any others. It is just everyone expressing their thoughts as we all see things.
It seems so often to me that the World has gone PC mad, and it seems we can now offend anyone in what we say no matter how we meant to say it. Crazy!! But, as with the points I make, we HAVE come a long way since the 1950's and the post war recovery, and us baby boomers have rather led the way on that one. :D :D :y
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I saw no mention of removing, or turning back the clock on womens rights. I was speaking about the type of people who seem to call themselves progressives. They seem to believe that anything which existed before they were born is worthless, useless,oppressive and must be done away with asap.
All common sense is being lost. Some things will always change and develop and that's the way it should be, but when it comes to the point where a woman who has given birth to a child, refuses to recognise what she considers a man made construct known as gender, and insists on being referred to as "they", it should be obvious to anyone who has retained some common sense, that this mindset is getting out of hand.
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I saw no mention of removing, or turning back the clock on womens rights. I was speaking about the type of people who seem to call themselves progressives. They seem to believe that anything which existed before they were born is worthless, useless,oppressive and must be done away with asap.
All common sense is being lost. Some things will always change and develop and that's the way it should be, but when it comes to the point where a woman who has given birth to a child, refuses to recognise what she considers a man made construct known as gender, and insists on being referred to as "they", it should be obvious to anyone who has retained some common sense, that this mindset is getting out of hand.
No, there was no direct statement along those lines, but some of us would worry that it the pendulum went back the other way, so would women's hard fought rights. It is just the way the thread has traveled through discussion, but nothing to do with what anyone has actually said.
As for your second sentence Migv6, I whole heartedly agree with you! :y :y :y
You are man, I am women and proud of it, so why should anyone want to use "they"? It is as I said, crazy, and where PC has gone mad and does not recognise the obvious. Male and female are different, but they both produce that great thing, a baby (or 2 or 3 ;D ;D ;D) Why should anyone, especially a women want to level it all out to one label, "they"? Again, crazy!! :o :o
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Sorry to have started this one! But I still don't know about the Boat Race cox. :-\