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Title: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 April 2017, 17:18:30
I have been having trouble with my CD player.  It started not to recognise discs 3 and 4 in the magazine, then would not  recognise any discs at all.  I was thinking of going to a local specialist car audio company and getting them to sort it out, at no doubt a fair price.

But then I stopped myself and thought it could be a dirty lens issue.  So I bought Allsop ProLens Laser Lens Diagnostic Cleaner for DVD and CD for £7.49, with free postage.  Used it once in my player and all is suddenly sorted!

What a great product, that also runs through tracks of diagonistic checks on your system, it's speakers, the lot! :y :y :y
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 April 2017, 17:26:24
I have been having trouble with my CD player.  It started not to recognise discs 3 and 4 in the magazine, then would not  recognise any discs at all.  I was thinking of going to a local specialist car audio company and getting them to sort it out, at no doubt a fair price.

But then I stopped myself and thought it could be a dirty lens issue.  So I bought Allsop ProLens Laser Lens Diagnostic Cleaner for DVD and CD for £7.49, with free postage.  Used it once in my player and all is suddenly sorted!

What a great product, that also runs through tracks of diagonistic checks on your system, it's speakers, the lot! :y :y :y

Does the Elite have a 4 or 6 CD play, Lizzie?.....My MV6 took four CD.

Glad it is fixed. :y :-* :-*
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 April 2017, 17:27:21
I have been having trouble with my CD player.  It started not to recognise discs 3 and 4 in the magazine, then would not  recognise any discs at all.  I was thinking of going to a local specialist car audio company and getting them to sort it out, at no doubt a fair price.

But then I stopped myself and thought it could be a dirty lens issue.  So I bought Allsop ProLens Laser Lens Diagnostic Cleaner for DVD and CD for £7.49, with free postage.  Used it once in my player and all is suddenly sorted!

What a great product, that also runs through tracks of diagonistic checks on your system, it's speakers, the lot! :y :y :y

Does the Elite have a 4 or 6 CD play, Lizzie?.....My MV6 took four CD.

Glad it is fixed. :y :-* :-*

4 in a 2013 unit. ;)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 April 2017, 17:31:22
I have been having trouble with my CD player.  It started not to recognise discs 3 and 4 in the magazine, then would not  recognise any discs at all.  I was thinking of going to a local specialist car audio company and getting them to sort it out, at no doubt a fair price.

But then I stopped myself and thought it could be a dirty lens issue.  So I bought Allsop ProLens Laser Lens Diagnostic Cleaner for DVD and CD for £7.49, with free postage.  Used it once in my player and all is suddenly sorted!

What a great product, that also runs through tracks of diagonistic checks on your system, it's speakers, the lot! :y :y :y

Does the Elite have a 4 or 6 CD play, Lizzie?.....My MV6 took four CD.

Glad it is fixed. :y :-* :-*

4 in a 2013 unit. ;)

Not sure which unit the MV6 comes with. A 3.0 V6 X-Type Mondeo that I briefly owned came with a 6CD player situated in the boot.

I seem to recall encountering similar problems to the ones you describe.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 06 April 2017, 17:34:16
Single play CD on my Signum but with MP3 player. I see this as a backwards step. :-\
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: tunnie on 06 April 2017, 17:52:12
Don't let a fatty little admin or Dave DN read this  ::)

It may only resolve it as a temp solution, general view is those things do more damage than good.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2017, 18:05:44
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 April 2017, 18:40:26
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2017, 18:42:26
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)
That's because I bought most of them, due to my fascination of playing CDRs ;)

I could do with clearing some of my shelves to make room for more bits
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 April 2017, 18:54:56
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)
You mean Mr Amazing doesn't have any ???
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 06 April 2017, 19:24:23
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)

 
You mean Mr Amazing doesn't have any ???

He may have, but what condition is a player going to be in probably coming from a car with far more miles on the clock than mine? Unlike other general spare parts, some electronic device without any history cannot be trusted. It could be off a miggie that has been badly maintained and treated, with 150k on the clock.  I'd sooner work on keeping my existing one working, as it has suddenly done today after a lens clean. :y
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: VXL V6 on 06 April 2017, 19:43:15
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)
That's because I bought most of them, due to my fascination of playing CDRs ;)

I could do with clearing some of my shelves to make room for more bits

Not all of them you didn't!   ::)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2017, 17:08:05
If it was shagged, nought to lose.  But I suspect it won't last to long.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for a known good replacement changer section, just as a spare.  Swap over is "easy" but tad fiddly in places. Patience needed.

Yes, and I am doing that as well but I cannot see one listed anywhere ;)
That's because I bought most of them, due to my fascination of playing CDRs ;)

I could do with clearing some of my shelves to make room for more bits

Not all of them you didn't!   ::)
I bought most of them (and promptly blew up about 80% of my stock), and you bought the rest ;D
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: VXL V6 on 07 April 2017, 19:45:59
I think current stock levels are down to three spare 2013's, three GID's, one CID and a Telematics.... So only just enough spares for the current fleet  ::)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2017, 08:38:39
I think current stock levels are down to three spare 2013's, three GID's, one CID and a Telematics.... So only just enough spares for the current fleet  ::)
My levels are now probably similar, might not even be that many NCDC2013s.  I do, however, have a mint one, that will be used to keep TBE going.

I do have a couple of CCR2006 and a couple of CDC3, and a box or two of NCDC "bits"
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Webby the Bear on 17 April 2017, 19:48:31
Lizzie what does one do with this product? Is it a spray you spray in? I've got the exact same issue.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: STEMO on 17 April 2017, 19:50:54
It's a fickin disc!  ;D
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 17 April 2017, 20:08:57
Lizzie what does one do with this product? Is it a spray you spray in? I've got the exact same issue.

It is a disc with one track with a line of tiny brushes. You put the disc in the changer in position 1 and it goes through track by track a series of diagnostic checks on your whole system, but one track is for cleaning.  It has worked well for me as it was so simple to use.  :y
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Webby the Bear on 17 April 2017, 20:29:54
Lizzie what does one do with this product? Is it a spray you spray in? I've got the exact same issue.

It is a disc with one track with a line of tiny brushes. You put the disc in the changer in position 1 and it goes through track by track a series of diagnostic checks on your whole system, but one track is for cleaning.  It has worked well for me as it was so simple to use.  :y

Excellent. I'll give this a go.  :y cheers lz
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 18 April 2017, 16:10:19
Having used similar before, just be aware that somethings the ones with the brushes make things worse.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 18 April 2017, 17:14:16
Having used similar before, just be aware that somethings the ones with the brushes make things worse.

Make things worse?  How can it be worse than the unit not recognising any CD's inserted, let alone playing them? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 April 2017, 18:53:15
A lens cleaner cannot repair an oppsed lens. Not exactly rocket science... or news ::)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90496.0 :-X
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 18 April 2017, 18:58:13
A lens cleaner cannot repair an oppsed lens. Not exactly rocket science... or news ::)

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90496.0 :-X

No doubt that is the case, but my problem was as described above in my last post and the cleaner disc sorted it. ;)

Webby Bear says he has the same problem, so hopefully it will work for him too ;)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2017, 09:16:18
Having used similar before, just be aware that somethings the ones with the brushes make things worse.

Make things worse?  How can it be worse than the unit not recognising any CD's inserted, let alone playing them? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
In most cases, both CD Changers fitted to Omegas (CDC2 and CDC3) start to get fussy on discs and temperature, but other discs/temperatures are fine.

The brush based systems are a bit barbaric, and can easily damage the lens coating or even the carrier completely.  The CDC3 (facelift) is particularly fragile.


Although in virtually 100% of all CDC3 changers not reading discs, its the focusing coils that are shot.  Unless the car was owned by a heavy smoker, the CDC3 is not a particularly dusty envirnoment, and every single one I've taken apart that wasn't owned by a smoker (as these are really obvious) have been pretty tidy inside.

At best, a brush system can only ever really be useful in removing specs of dust (would destroy the lens in a couple of rotations if it were more thorough), and IME, dust doesn't collect around the lens.


I'm really glad its (temporarily ;)) worked for you LZ :y, but the only method I could ever recommend to CDC3 owners in particular is stripdown and a proprietry lens cleaner...  ...or better still, laser replacement (fiddly, but not hard).
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: TheBoy on 19 April 2017, 09:18:44
I probably should add I've stripped more CDC3's than I care to remember.  I need to take a photo of the shelves in my office here...  ...and this is the tiny amount I had left following the garage incident.
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 19 April 2017, 12:52:13
Having used similar before, just be aware that somethings the ones with the brushes make things worse.

Make things worse?  How can it be worse than the unit not recognising any CD's inserted, let alone playing them? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
In most cases, both CD Changers fitted to Omegas (CDC2 and CDC3) start to get fussy on discs and temperature, but other discs/temperatures are fine.

The brush based systems are a bit barbaric, and can easily damage the lens coating or even the carrier completely.  The CDC3 (facelift) is particularly fragile.


Although in virtually 100% of all CDC3 changers not reading discs, its the focusing coils that are shot.  Unless the car was owned by a heavy smoker, the CDC3 is not a particularly dusty envirnoment, and every single one I've taken apart that wasn't owned by a smoker (as these are really obvious) have been pretty tidy inside.

At best, a brush system can only ever really be useful in removing specs of dust (would destroy the lens in a couple of rotations if it were more thorough), and IME, dust doesn't collect around the lens.


I'm really glad its (temporarily ;)) worked for you LZ :y, but the only method I could ever recommend to CDC3 owners in particular is stripdown and a proprietry lens cleaner...  ...or better still, laser replacement (fiddly, but not hard).

That's it, give me good news and cheer me up..........not! ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: CD Player Cleaner
Post by: jarqo1981 on 13 May 2017, 17:16:02
Hi! Can anyone advise me where I can buy discs ,,digital audio''? In shops I can see only ,,recordable'' verbatim, maxell etc. Regards  :D

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