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Title: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 16:12:39
If I do go ahead with the 3.2 then it will be bye bye to the GLS, due to space rather than cost.

What should I list it at?

Good points are, 4 x almost new tyres, very long MOT and a small bit of tax. New sequential LPG done by me, with a spare wheel tank. Head gasket and cambelt done last month, with plugs and lots of oil changes since. and the aircon works.

Bad points are, 175000 miles, and the usual small couple of door spots.

It's a T, guessing 99?

Being an estate with MP LPG and new cambelt kit, would it be unrealistic to list it up at about £900?
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2008, 17:08:16
The mileage slaughters any value, and Omegas aint got much value to start with.

170k really, really is right at the end of a 2.0l life
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 17:13:36
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170k really, really is right at the end of a 2.0l life

But, But, it goes like stink and doesn't lose a drop of oil/coolant - I've driven models much worse with 75k on the clock  :-/

I am sure with the good compression on all pots, new HG and new cambelt kit, it aint gonna die anytime soon  :'(
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2008, 17:23:44
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170k really, really is right at the end of a 2.0l life

But, But, it goes like stink and doesn't lose a drop of oil/coolant - I've driven models much worse with 75k on the clock  :-/

I am sure with the good compression on all pots, new HG and new cambelt kit, it aint gonna die anytime soon  :'(
Not relevent.  Buyers won't care.  Same as people who sell cars saying it has a new this, or a new that.
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2008, 17:24:24
Having been in it, I dispute it goes like stink. Its a 2l ;)
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 17:26:40
I agree that stands for most work done, but surely the average Joe Buyer would rather look for something that has just had a cambelt kit change, rather than one which was soon due?

My old Veccy 1.8 was on 220k and still going strong when that went :D

I've got a bee in my bonnet about a 3.2, I tell you this is worse than any alcohol or smoke addiction  ;D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 17:27:28
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Having been in it, I dispute it goes like stink. Its a 2l ;)

you haven't been in it since it's been serviced but - I'll give you credit, it goes like stink FOR a 2.0 :P ;D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2008, 17:44:22
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I agree that stands for most work done, but surely the average Joe Buyer would rather look for something that has just had a cambelt kit change, rather than one which was soon due?

My old Veccy 1.8 was on 220k and still going strong when that went :D

I've got a bee in my bonnet about a 3.2, I tell you this is worse than any alcohol or smoke addiction  ;D
I think you will find a buyer buying an old banger, probably as a short term runaround, really won't give a monkeys left tit.  In reality, very few buyers ever ask when cambelt was done, instead preferring a nice stamped up book.  We know they are misguided, but thats reality.
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 01 August 2008, 17:45:22
And I think you owe me a tenner - when you were doing HG, I bet you that you would get rid of it within 2 months ;D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 August 2008, 17:49:24
sadly, James, the only person i know who'd buy a 4 pot with that kind of mileage...... and even contemplate it's longevity...    is probably you.....


i sure as hell wouldn't go near one....  
 :-?

Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: ians on 01 August 2008, 18:32:40
Its got to be worth a try.  I seem to recall Autotrader online is under a tenner if asking price is below a grand.

I sold my 2.0 GLS estate last year with misfire , 180odd k miles and had a queue of people lining up to buy it (several would have exported it to eastern Europe.   I wasn't asking £900,  but still , I think there is a market for it.  

Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 18:49:50
I'm not necessarily asking for £900 either - I'm open to opinions :)

Max - comment is fair, but for the purchase price (to me) it was worth it - and I'm close to making the cost of the gas back in fuel savings really.

Don't forget your old Estate had 180k - and was going strong.

I appreciate the opinions - I'd also be interested on Mark's opinion on whether a 2.0 is nearly dead at 170k if it's all in good order ::)

Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: STMO123 on 01 August 2008, 18:59:12
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I'm not necessarily asking for £900 either - I'm open to opinions :)

Max - comment is fair, but for the purchase price (to me) it was worth it - and I'm close to making the cost of the gas back in fuel savings really.

Don't forget your old Estate had 180k - and was going strong.

I appreciate the opinions - I'd also be interested on Mark's opinion on whether a 2.0 is nearly dead at 170k if it's all in good order ::)


Just like any other car, it could die tomorrow or run for another five years! For someone like me (if I were looking) who does 4-5000 miles a year, at a very sedate pace, it would be ideal.
I've had cars that I've hated and couldn't wait for them to expire so I could get a new one. But they dont, not until they're good and ready.
Advertise it for something reasonable (£8-900), push the LPG side of it and make it clear that you are open to offers. I think, as has been said, the tenner for under £1000 on trader sounds good.
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: stuart30 on 01 August 2008, 18:59:41
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Its got to be worth a try.  I seem to recall Autotrader online is under a tenner if asking price is below a grand.

I sold my 2.0 GLS estate last year with misfire , 180odd k miles and had a queue of people lining up to buy it (several would have exported it to eastern Europe.   I wasn't asking £900,  but still , I think there is a market for it.  


Maybe a market at sub £300 and then id imagine it would be just due too the LPG and cheap running costs.

Shame as i wouldnt mind a second car....dont suppose its auto is it :-/
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: psychnurse on 01 August 2008, 19:18:09
What is it James?? Sold me estate yesturday.... and want another  :-/
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: HolyCount on 01 August 2008, 19:52:06
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What is it James?? Sold me estate yesturday.... and want another  :-/


You two are as bad as each other  ::)  ( and I mean that in a nice way!)

I am just jealous, cos if I bought another the wife would be wearing my crown jewels as earrings!!
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 21:17:18
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Its got to be worth a try.  I seem to recall Autotrader online is under a tenner if asking price is below a grand.

I sold my 2.0 GLS estate last year with misfire , 180odd k miles and had a queue of people lining up to buy it (several would have exported it to eastern Europe.   I wasn't asking £900,  but still , I think there is a market for it.  


Maybe a market at sub £300 and then id imagine it would be just due too the LPG and cheap running costs.

Shame as i wouldnt mind a second car....dont suppose its auto is it :-/

Less than £300 for a T reg Estate with nearly full MOT and a brand new sequential LPG conversion (Costing £600) and in perfect running condition?

If you can genuinely find me another one in the UK under £300, I will post you a tenner - no joke.




Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: HolyCount on 01 August 2008, 21:20:05
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Its got to be worth a try.  I seem to recall Autotrader online is under a tenner if asking price is below a grand.

I sold my 2.0 GLS estate last year with misfire , 180odd k miles and had a queue of people lining up to buy it (several would have exported it to eastern Europe.   I wasn't asking £900,  but still , I think there is a market for it.  


Maybe a market at sub £300 and then id imagine it would be just due too the LPG and cheap running costs.

Shame as i wouldnt mind a second car....dont suppose its auto is it :-/

Less than £300 for a T reg Estate with nearly full MOT and a brand new sequential LPG conversion (Costing £600) and in perfect running condition?

If you can genuinely find me another one in the UK under £300, I will post you a tenner - no joke.





Bl**dy 'ell -- at around 300 I'd risk the crown jewels myself  :o
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: MartinP on 01 August 2008, 21:36:23
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sadly, James, the only person i know who'd buy a 4 pot with that kind of mileage...... and even contemplate it's longevity...    is probably you.....


i sure as hell wouldn't go near one....  
 :-?



I think I fall into James camp here, I will be picking up a 2000 W 2.0ltr  
saloon tomorrow with 140k on the clock.

Having bought 3 volvo's a Jag and SRi with MOT & tax for less than £500 and run them for  over 2 years each, (except for the Volvo 3.0 ltr which let the cambelt go a week before the booking at the garage :()

I would much rather do that, than park a car that I am paying for outside the works for 8-10 hours and outside the house for 10+ hours of a night.
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: stuart30 on 01 August 2008, 21:40:34
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Its got to be worth a try.  I seem to recall Autotrader online is under a tenner if asking price is below a grand.

I sold my 2.0 GLS estate last year with misfire , 180odd k miles and had a queue of people lining up to buy it (several would have exported it to eastern Europe.   I wasn't asking £900,  but still , I think there is a market for it.  


Maybe a market at sub £300 and then id imagine it would be just due too the LPG and cheap running costs.

Shame as i wouldnt mind a second car....dont suppose its auto is it :-/

Less than £300 for a T reg Estate with nearly full MOT and a brand new sequential LPG conversion (Costing £600) and in perfect running condition?

If you can genuinely find me another one in the UK under £300, I will post you a tenner - no joke.






I was referring too the fact its extremely high mileage and the fact they make peanuts currently....no idea what the LPG would be worth.

Maybe my £300 is as ridiculous as your £900  ;D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: HolyCount on 01 August 2008, 21:41:56
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sadly, James, the only person i know who'd buy a 4 pot with that kind of mileage...... and even contemplate it's longevity...    is probably you.....


i sure as hell wouldn't go near one....  
 :-?



I think I fall into James camp here, I will be picking up a 2000 W 2.0ltr  
saloon tomorrow with 140k on the clock.

Having bought 3 volvo's a Jag and SRi with MOT & tax for less than £500 and run them for  over 2 years each, (except for the Volvo 3.0 ltr which let the cambelt go a week before the booking at the garage :()

I would much rather do that, than park a car that I am paying for outside the works for 8-10 hours and outside the house for 10+ hours of a night.


Interesting way to look at it -- very good point
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 01 August 2008, 21:46:55
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I agree that stands for most work done, but surely the average Joe Buyer would rather look for something that has just had a cambelt kit change, rather than one which was soon due?

My old Veccy 1.8 was on 220k and still going strong when that went :D

I've got a bee in my bonnet about a 3.2, I tell you this is worse than any alcohol or smoke addiction  ;D

That coz it was carefully looked after by its previous owner  ;D

It used a tad of oil tho iirc  ;)
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: STMO123 on 01 August 2008, 21:59:53
It's amazing what you can get for under a grand now:

http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VAUXHALL+OMEGA/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-50-59-240-4294966436-4294966969/advert.action?R=200831315594591&distance=2&postcode=WF2+7EN&channel=CARS&make=VAUXHALL&model=OMEGA&min_pr=&max_pr=&max_mileage=
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 01 August 2008, 22:00:55
I'd try about £800 - £900 tbh.......only coz its been converted to lpg recently....that could have cost that easily to had it installed.....and really punt that in the ad......

So it seems they are getting a lpg converted car for basically what it cost you to have converted........and a free car!!!

Your not really telling porkies as your time doing the conversion has value!  ;)

If its only a tenner to advertise your not losing anything if you dont get a response......

Oh and a tip....on autotrader....make sure the fuel type is lpg.....and do a search after placing the ad to make sure it shows up when searching for lpg fuel type.......if it doesnt....phone autotrader and get them to fix the add so it shows up on searching for lpg.......i had this prob when i sold my veccyC........didnt show up on lpg searches........got no response......phoned autotrader and whinged at them......the did summat so it showed up and sold it easy after that  :y
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: HolyCount on 01 August 2008, 22:04:47
As you know -- LPG is a big selling point at the mo .... and getting bigger!

Joe public knows that it can cost twice the asking price of the car to get one converted. So, as TD says -- they are basically gettimg a free car !!!!
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: MaxV6 on 01 August 2008, 22:16:46
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Don't forget your old Estate had 180k - and was going strong.



yeah, with an extra litre and 2 more cylinders, and it's HG's were truly breaked to pieces, as you bravely discovered....  

and rectified...
 :y

Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 01 August 2008, 22:30:53
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Don't forget your old Estate had 180k - and was going strong.



yeah, with an extra litre and 2 more cylinders, and it's HG's were truly breaked to pieces, as you bravely discovered....  

and rectified...
 :y


I'll be honest - I find ALL the Ecotec lumps will go to extremely high mileage, 4 and 6 cyl versions - it's all down to how it's been maintained.

I'll bet TB a curry that this one will still be going strong at 200k with no major mechanical issues :y
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: MartinP on 01 August 2008, 22:31:34
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As you know -- LPG is a big selling point at the mo .... and getting bigger!

Joe public knows that it can cost twice the asking price of the car to get one converted. So, as TD says -- they are basically gettimg a free car !!!!


This is what I did.

Jag £500 LPG £1000, conversion paid back in 8 months

MV6 with LPG £1000, ergo car free  :)
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 02 August 2008, 12:19:28
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Don't forget your old Estate had 180k - and was going strong.



yeah, with an extra litre and 2 more cylinders, and it's HG's were truly breaked to pieces, as you bravely discovered....  

and rectified...
 :y


I'll be honest - I find ALL the Ecotec lumps will go to extremely high mileage, 4 and 6 cyl versions - it's all down to how it's been maintained.

I'll bet TB a curry that this one will still be going strong at 200k with no major mechanical issues :y
not denying it will get there with tlc, unless the old 4pot trouble with no1 beats it.

Trying to convince a punter that a base spec, 9yr old, 170k car is worth more than a similar priced, higher spec, lower mileage one will be hard. Its already a buyers market.
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 02 August 2008, 12:22:30
Fully agree it's a buyers market, I have my eye on a Facelift which is silly money!
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 August 2008, 18:33:57
Well, as the new baby has arrived - this LPG estate is going to be on fleagay tonight.

I'm going to stick it on with a £500 start, and no reserve.

Wish me luck  ;D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: HolyCount on 03 August 2008, 18:37:38
best of luck matey -- don't forget to push the conversion angle --- they are still getting a free car !!!!
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 03 August 2008, 18:56:18
Why do you keep using egay to sell cars?
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 August 2008, 19:01:52
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Why do you keep using egay to sell cars?

Just because it's very quick! I could probably raise more on Autotrader but I'm not too worried about the selling price, I just need it gone.

Hey, egay will own us all, soon ;D

Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: TheBoy on 03 August 2008, 19:07:28
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Why do you keep using egay to sell cars?

Just because it's very quick! I could probably raise more on Autotrader but I'm not too worried about the selling price, I just need it gone.

Hey, egay will own us all, soon ;D

This constant car changing and selling cheap must be costing you a bloody fortune?
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 August 2008, 19:10:13
Thing is I usually get them cheap too, so I suspect I break even, or thereabouts. As you well know, it's been my hobby for a while, and one which will have to be significantly reduced at the end of August due to my new commitment, so I may as well get a nice car now with a view to it lasting me a while :y

(yeah, yeah, I hear you say... but I think Im going to be surprised how busy I am, come end august).
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2008, 19:12:34
you do seam to change cars an awful lot, you must have had 15 cars in the time i had my 2.2
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 August 2008, 19:14:02
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you do seam to change cars an awful lot, you must have had 15 cars in the time i had my 2.2

I get bored when I have nothing to fix :D
Title: Re: Listing price
Post by: tunnie on 03 August 2008, 19:30:37
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you do seam to change cars an awful lot, you must have had 15 cars in the time i had my 2.2

I get bored when I have nothing to fix :D

Get a Jag XJ Supercharged then, fix it up and let me buy it off you!  ;)