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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Debs. on 04 August 2008, 12:22:55
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:o Just thankful this kind 'motorway dodgems' driving isn`t more common. :o
*Video has loud use of the 'F' and 'W' words on the soundtrack.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d92_1217828294
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what a kn*b. driving like that wrecks lives. did you read the wording above. the police refused to do anything even with video evidence. t*ssers
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what a kn*b. driving like that wrecks lives. did you read the wording above. the police refused to do anything even with video evidence. t*ssers
The fact that it was being filmed would suggest some earlier provocation that is unseen.
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yeah according to the guy it happened because he didnt let the guy in front of him earlier. but even so, with or with provocation surely it was still classed as dangerous drivng.
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yeah according to the guy it happened because he didnt let the guy in front of him earlier. but even so, with or with provocation surely it was still classed as dangerous drivng.
I can understand why the police won't get involved with such footage.
a) quality too bad to do anything
b) it doesn't show the whole incident
c) everyone would be out provoking drivers they didn't like, then filming small snippets.
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true. never thought about that :-[
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If the footage was over a good time-length, then it may hold more weight, but as TB says, with a small snippet, you only see one side of the story...
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If the footage was over a good time-length, then it may hold more weight, but as TB says, with a small snippet, you only see one side of the story...
I think the whole thing would be classed as entrapment, hence inadmissible.
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Id hazard a guess at either being a typical landaner due too M25 sign or possibly a female driver given the swerving about. ;D ;D
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I see this all to much on the road and these drivers get away with it all the time >:( but it did look like a white van man getting a taste of his own medicine from another white van man :)
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
And, additionally, are probably sick of wannabe police coming up to them all the time...
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
And, additionally, are probably sick of wannabe police coming up to them all the time...
Doesn't matter if they're sick of wannabe police approaching them or not - if there are genuine grounds for a complaint by any member of public they are duty bound to investigate it.
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Giving the video to the police probably made his case weaker. If it was widespread for people to video entire car journeys maybe not so, but the existence of the video indicates he was expecting / courting trouble, IMHO.
Had he gone straight to the nearest police station with the damaged vehicle and reg. no. of the van and a couple of other cars who may contain witnesses and reported him for leaving the scene of an accident it may have been taken more seriously. Then again, they may still not want to know. >:(
Kevin
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Didn't think we had any traffic / motorway police anymore.... only see traffic wombles now.
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
And, additionally, are probably sick of wannabe police coming up to them all the time...
Doesn't matter if they're sick of wannabe police approaching them or not - if there are genuine grounds for a complaint by any member of public they are duty bound to investigate it.
I'm guessing they, rightly, do not think someone coming in with a video snippet is genuine grounds... ...and good on them :y
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
And, additionally, are probably sick of wannabe police coming up to them all the time...
Doesn't matter if they're sick of wannabe police approaching them or not - if there are genuine grounds for a complaint by any member of public they are duty bound to investigate it.
I'm guessing they, rightly, do not think someone coming in with a video snippet is genuine grounds... ...and good on them :y
you may well be right - although a force local to you have prosecuted a motorcyclist for posting a snippet on youtube :-X
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would like to hope the whole thing was presented to police, not just a little bit.
You still thinking of one of these cameras James?
The police can never be sure they have whole thing ;)
And, additionally, are probably sick of wannabe police coming up to them all the time...
Doesn't matter if they're sick of wannabe police approaching them or not - if there are genuine grounds for a complaint by any member of public they are duty bound to investigate it.
I'm guessing they, rightly, do not think someone coming in with a video snippet is genuine grounds... ...and good on them :y
you may well be right - although a force local to you have prosecuted a motorcyclist for posting a snippet on youtube :-X
That wasn't a disgruntled member of the public filming him though - that was the rider filming himself. Too much interbreeding in these parts makes people stupid.
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TBH I do see your point, if everyone started taking in phone vid clips etc to the Police then they would be overwhelmed - I actually agree with you for the most on that one.
As far as entrapment goes, entrapment is when the Police unlawfully attempt to get someone done for something, if a member of public tried to "set up" another MoP then it would be incitement (pretty much same thing, though)...
I do think there are SOME circumstances (very exceptional ones) when video evidence should be reviewed if there (Eg, if someone is hurt) but for the day to day idiots you see - in order to follow up every snippet of that you'd need to multiply the current Police Forces tenfold!
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Interbreeding eh - is that why Brackley makes for such an interesting night out? [smiley=evil.gif]
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Interbreeding eh - is that why Brackley makes for such an interesting night out? [smiley=evil.gif]
;) Ah yes, the infamous Brackley Banjo Bars ;D
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TBH I do see your point, if everyone started taking in phone vid clips etc to the Police then they would be overwhelmed - I actually agree with you for the most on that one.
As far as entrapment goes, entrapment is when the Police unlawfully attempt to get someone done for something, if a member of public tried to "set up" another MoP then it would be incitement (pretty much same thing, though)...
I do think there are SOME circumstances (very exceptional ones) when video evidence should be reviewed if there (Eg, if someone is hurt) but for the day to day idiots you see - in order to follow up every snippet of that you'd need to multiply the current Police Forces tenfold!
Entrapment/Incitement. Same thing.
If they started using video, you know better than most, some chav would go and throw a brick through someone's car, then record the owner beating the crap out of the culprit. And who would get banged up?
It will be a sad day if our Police Forces went down that line.
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Interbreeding eh - is that why Brackley makes for such an interesting night out? [smiley=evil.gif]
Well, with you and Tunnie, a bit of a 'Man Love' thing happens ;D
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dodgy place, people wii'ing all over the shop ;D
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dodgy place, people wii'ing all over the shop ;D
Wii! Bring it on!
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dodgy place, people wii'ing all over the shop ;D
Wii! Bring it on!
did you get the code i sent you?
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dodgy place, people wii'ing all over the shop ;D
Wii! Bring it on!
did you get the code i sent you?
Seen the email, not opened yet (not switched the Wii on for a few days)
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dodgy place, people wii'ing all over the shop ;D
Wii! Bring it on!
did you get the code i sent you?
Seen the email, not opened yet (not switched the Wii on for a few days)
K, was just wondering if gmail-you link was playing silly buggers again ;)
was up till 2am wiiing sat night ;D
discovered a shop near me selling wii + wii fit bundles! if only I had waited 2 days :(
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brackley ok place. i sometimes sleep in lorry overnight outside copshop on industrial estate. tesco over road to restock my fridge, loads of food plces to choose from in town, and the lovely locomotive for a cold guiness before bedtime in my hotel scania ;D
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TBH I do see your point, if everyone started taking in phone vid clips etc to the Police then they would be overwhelmed - I actually agree with you for the most on that one.
As far as entrapment goes, entrapment is when the Police unlawfully attempt to get someone done for something, if a member of public tried to "set up" another MoP then it would be incitement (pretty much same thing, though)...
I do think there are SOME circumstances (very exceptional ones) when video evidence should be reviewed if there (Eg, if someone is hurt) but for the day to day idiots you see - in order to follow up every snippet of that you'd need to multiply the current Police Forces tenfold!
Entrapment/Incitement. Same thing.
If they started using video, you know better than most, some chav would go and throw a brick through someone's car, then record the owner beating the crap out of the culprit. And who would get banged up?
It will be a sad day if our Police Forces went down that line.
I agree - while from one angle, I think if not used in a "tell tale" manner it could be useful - I too would hate to see it become compulsary to record everything. Way too big brother and IMO a breach of privacy. ... and I also agree about the negative effects it would have.
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brackley ok place. i sometimes sleep in lorry overnight outside copshop on industrial estate. tesco over road to restock my fridge, loads of food plces to choose from in town, and the lovely locomotive for a cold guiness before bedtime in my hotel scania ;D
Not much here. Most of the sit down food places are Indians. No sit down chinky. The Thai in town is poor, not tried the new Italain yet.
Only made it in the Loco once, was full of (then) BAR personnel getting excited about cars driving round in circles at high speed. Never made it down that far since (live up other end of town).
Brackley is slowly growing on me, I'm beginning to enjoy the peace now...
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Brackley is slowly growing on me, I'm beginning to enjoy the peace now...
Not just me then. ;D You'll be coming to live in sleepy Four Marks next. <terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tired!>
Kevin
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brackley ok place. i sometimes sleep in lorry overnight outside copshop on industrial estate. tesco over road to restock my fridge, loads of food plces to choose from in town, and the lovely locomotive for a cold guiness before bedtime in my hotel scania ;D
I would make sure the doors are locked and you have a big stick handy, its full of gays ;D
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.....was up till 2am wiiing sat night ;D
;D Not that 'men`s problem' again is it? ;D
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brackley ok place. i sometimes sleep in lorry overnight outside copshop on industrial estate. tesco over road to restock my fridge, loads of food plces to choose from in town, and the lovely locomotive for a cold guiness before bedtime in my hotel scania ;D
I would make sure the doors are locked and you have a big stick handy, its full of gays ;D
Only when Tunnie and JamesV6CDX are in town. Or you and Timbuk ;D