Omega Owners Forum

Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: iansoutham on 09 May 2017, 20:59:46

Title: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 09 May 2017, 20:59:46
Okay, just to grow a different question out there for once....

Other than the price and the fact that there are less boxes on the 2.0 exhaust, is there any advantage or disadvantage to using a 2.2 exhaust after the car on a 2.0, other than the tailpipe length after the box?

Reason is that my estate always sounds like it has a lot of resonance, especially round town. I have tried an Eternal system and a Walker one and the Walker one actually sounds better. There is a good deal around the join to the cat and the cat has a good flexi on it (although this is a good pattern unit that passes the MOT every year and is fully wrapped on the downpipe).

My theory is that, using a decent system with dual-skin boxes and more boxes might make it quieter.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 May 2017, 21:02:31
It will be quieter.

Also, 2.0 was available as a facelift. Albeit in 16v guise :y
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 10 May 2017, 04:31:07
It will be quieter.

Also, 2.0 was available as a facelift. Albeit in 16v guise :y
Mine is 16v  :)
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: tunnie on 10 May 2017, 09:38:38
My old 2.2 with a decent flexi and eternal boxes was near enough silent.  :y
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 10 May 2017, 13:08:14
Check this eBay number, tell me what you think if you may?

182085392150

Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Viral_Jim on 14 May 2017, 00:58:36
Yup, I replaced the 2.2 with 2.0 on my estate and it's very quiet now. Took me 2 goes to get the fit right (had vibration when I first did it). But this was due to me not having a ramp and being crack-handed rather than the exhaust.

Mine was eternal also.
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: steve6367 on 14 May 2017, 08:16:31
Just for a counter view (and yes I am fussy) - mine ended up back on 2 mid box system which I found sounded much better and is the original design.
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 14 May 2017, 08:50:54
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: terry paget on 14 May 2017, 17:45:22
Here's a Polish exhaust growing out of my hedge. It came off a 2.2 saloon I scrapped a year ago. I have 2 other 2.2 saloons, I am sure I shall need it soon.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecja0hsyt1cezwh/exhaust21%25.jpg?dl=1 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecja0hsyt1cezwh/exhaust21%25.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: terry paget on 14 May 2017, 17:52:04
I shall try again.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecja0hsyt1cezwh/exhaust21%25.jpg?dl=1)
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 14 May 2017, 18:00:57
I shall try again.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ecja0hsyt1cezwh/exhaust21%25.jpg?dl=1)

Looks like a 2.0 one to me, only 1 pipe
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: terry paget on 14 May 2017, 19:29:00
Yes, that'swhat I bought. It looks double skinned though, and it was quiet
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec161n5ab5nhz60/doubleSKIN21%25.JPG?dl=1)

Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Andy A on 15 May 2017, 09:38:05
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?

Is it new and do you have a link that you can post up?
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 15 May 2017, 09:49:46
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?

Is it new and do you have a link that you can post up?

It is and I will let you know once it arrives and is working
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Andy A on 15 May 2017, 14:34:10
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?

Is it new and do you have a link that you can post up?

It is and I will let you know once it arrives and is working

Fair enough. Much appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you soon. Hope its a good one.  :y
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 17 May 2017, 21:11:01
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?

Is it new and do you have a link that you can post up?

It is and I will let you know once it arrives and is working

Fair enough. Much appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you soon. Hope its a good one.  :y

Well, it has arrived and is certainly heavy. Almost need 2 people to carry the box 😄

Will open and fit it at the weekend hopefully, so should be able to update some time afterwards.
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: ronnyd on 17 May 2017, 22:22:32
I am talking about going the other way, from a single box middle section to a twin middle on my 2.0.

I decided not to go with the Eternal system from the link as it is only a single skin according to their communications (apparently they used to be double-skinned). I have found a double-skin version made of good steel somewhere else in Poland which is being sent to me.

My last system from Eternal was only single-skin as well, which is why it resonates so much.

If it goes to plan, I may have a good condition 2.0 estate exhaust if anyone wants it?

Is it new and do you have a link that you can post up?

It is and I will let you know once it arrives and is working

Fair enough. Much appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you soon. Hope its a good one.  :y

Well, it has arrived and is certainly heavy. Almost need 2 people to carry the box 😄

Will open and fit it at the weekend hopefully, so should be able to update some time afterwards.
Was it from Ace Gerlach by any chance?, if so, am very pleased with mine.
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: iansoutham on 20 May 2017, 15:00:29
Well, update time....

The exhaust is fitted. Generally good fit, had to adjust the pipe slightly where it passes the nsr anti roll bar joint but that is because I was having to use fabricated middle box brackets I suspect and different rubbers..

The rubbers that come with the kit are too tight and small for my liking, hence the change to some which allow a little more movement.

eBay item number is 261111236297 if anyone is interested.

The boxes are double-skinned as can be confirmed with the spot welds in the middle of the outer skins and the edges have been laser welded together.

As for noise, I had to turn the radio and the aircon off just to hear the exhaust and is no louder with the window open either. Before, the exhaust noise was always there.

Honestly, at the moment I cannot find any problems.

Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Andy A on 20 May 2017, 19:05:19
Well, update time....

The exhaust is fitted. Generally good fit, had to adjust the pipe slightly where it passes the nsr anti roll bar joint but that is because I was having to use fabricated middle box brackets I suspect and different rubbers..

The rubbers that come with the kit are too tight and small for my liking, hence the change to some which allow a little more movement.

eBay item number is 261111236297 if anyone is interested.

The boxes are double-skinned as can be confirmed with the spot welds in the middle of the outer skins and the edges have been laser welded together.

As for noise, I had to turn the radio and the aircon off just to hear the exhaust and is no louder with the window open either. Before, the exhaust noise was always there.

Honestly, at the moment I cannot find any problems.

Can you provide a link for purchase?

Thanks
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Lazydocker on 20 May 2017, 21:20:12
Well, update time....

The exhaust is fitted. Generally good fit, had to adjust the pipe slightly where it passes the nsr anti roll bar joint but that is because I was having to use fabricated middle box brackets I suspect and different rubbers..

The rubbers that come with the kit are too tight and small for my liking, hence the change to some which allow a little more movement.

eBay item number is 261111236297 if anyone is interested.

The boxes are double-skinned as can be confirmed with the spot welds in the middle of the outer skins and the edges have been laser welded together.

As for noise, I had to turn the radio and the aircon off just to hear the exhaust and is no louder with the window open either. Before, the exhaust noise was always there.

Honestly, at the moment I cannot find any problems.

Can you provide a link for purchase?

Thanks

Like that one? :-X ::) ;D
Title: Re: 2.2 exhaust
Post by: Andy A on 21 May 2017, 09:11:28
Well, update time....

The exhaust is fitted. Generally good fit, had to adjust the pipe slightly where it passes the nsr anti roll bar joint but that is because I was having to use fabricated middle box brackets I suspect and different rubbers..

The rubbers that come with the kit are too tight and small for my liking, hence the change to some which allow a little more movement.

eBay item number is 261111236297 if anyone is interested.

The boxes are double-skinned as can be confirmed with the spot welds in the middle of the outer skins and the edges have been laser welded together.

As for noise, I had to turn the radio and the aircon off just to hear the exhaust and is no louder with the window open either. Before, the exhaust noise was always there.

Honestly, at the moment I cannot find any problems.

Can you provide a link for purchase?

Thanks

Like that one? :-X ::) ;D

Thanks.  :y :y Been working on the car. Missed that one.  :o