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Title: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: korum on 10 June 2017, 19:28:08
It appears this hamster cant drive

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40234865

looks like hes got away with it
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 10 June 2017, 19:44:59
Let's wait until the cause is found... Then if he has fluffed it we can mock him mercilessly!
 I'm thinking along the lines of small manufacturer and not fully tested perhaps...
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: BazaJT on 10 June 2017, 19:45:16
A bit of T-cut and that'll polish out :D ;D
By the look of that he was very lucky[once again]to get away with that,he seems intent on using his 9 lives up in short order!!
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: korum on 10 June 2017, 20:47:40
A short video of it does look like he just over cooked it

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/richard-hammond-switzerland-car-crash-10599299
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Viral_Jim on 10 June 2017, 20:52:57
A short video of it does look like he just over cooked it

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/richard-hammond-switzerland-car-crash-10599299

To me it looks like driver error - lift off oversteer pushing the back round to the left, he corrects going into the left handed but runs out of road. That said, as others mention, small car company, the handling setup may not be forgiving.
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 June 2017, 22:34:38
Yep, does look like either he lost his nerve or the car was unsettled by something. The cornering speed didn't look that over-ambitious for the style of car to me. Then again, the traction is either there or it's not when you get to tyres that wide.
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 11 June 2017, 08:10:43
Dunno wtf he was doing but that was a real crap piece of driving. He is well over to the left on the entrance to the left hander, tries to turn in too late and possibly brakes at the same time. Almost like he wasn't concentrating until he realised he was about to fall off the edge of the road. Most strange.  ???
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: STEMO on 11 June 2017, 08:19:37
He's starting to look like an ageing American actor, with his hair dye and pearly white teeth.
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Viral_Jim on 11 June 2017, 09:05:02
ironically, the actual aging American actor the BBC replaced him with seems to drive pretty well  ;D
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: LFF64 on 11 June 2017, 09:21:36
I read he had it off the road and on grass just before this happened so that could be why he went off on the corner
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 June 2017, 12:10:09
Dunno wtf he was doing but that was a real crap piece of driving. He is well over to the left on the entrance to the left hander, tries to turn in too late and possibly brakes at the same time. Almost like he wasn't concentrating until he realised he was about to fall off the edge of the road. Most strange.  ???

Yes, actually, you're right. He was going quick enough that positioning into the bend would have been important, yet he didn't seem to make any attempt to get it right. Positioning himself over to the left meant he had to turn in sharply rather than "maximum constant radius" and the back end of the car had other ideas. ;D

EDIT: Of course, he could have been blathering into a camera at the time. ::)
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: plym ian on 11 June 2017, 17:10:07
And he's ok!!!!

https://youtu.be/PdrTn15JYgc
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: TheBoy on 12 June 2017, 17:52:30
If you recall the end of the last grand tour, he admitted he couldn't control powerslides etc, so strikes me he isn't as talented in the car as he is often made out to be. But, then, why would he be, he's a journo, not a driver.
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 June 2017, 20:27:20
Dunno wtf he was doing but that was a real crap piece of driving. He is well over to the left on the entrance to the left hander, tries to turn in too late and possibly brakes at the same time. Almost like he wasn't concentrating until he realised he was about to fall off the edge of the road. Most strange.  ???

Yes, actually, you're right. He was going quick enough that positioning into the bend would have been important, yet he didn't seem to make any attempt to get it right. Positioning himself over to the left meant he had to turn in sharply rather than "maximum constant radius" and the back end of the car had other ideas. ;D

EDIT: Of course, he could have been blathering into a camera at the time. ::)
Don't forget it was an electric car not a petrol one ;) torque delivery is very different and the car won't respond the same way to throttle/brake inputs, especially at the limit...

Drop an empty Sprinter into second as you turn left off a damp roundabout at speed and see how much control you actually have...

In that clip he's obviously given it a bootful out of the previous hairpin and has braked and lifted off too quickly as he turned in... Backing off rather than completely lifting off has compounded the regenerative braking forces and the inevitable happened.

The second he dabbed the brakes as he turned in, he became a passenger.
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 15 June 2017, 12:06:56
Dunno wtf he was doing but that was a real crap piece of driving. He is well over to the left on the entrance to the left hander, tries to turn in too late and possibly brakes at the same time. Almost like he wasn't concentrating until he realised he was about to fall off the edge of the road. Most strange.  ???

Yes, actually, you're right. He was going quick enough that positioning into the bend would have been important, yet he didn't seem to make any attempt to get it right. Positioning himself over to the left meant he had to turn in sharply rather than "maximum constant radius" and the back end of the car had other ideas. ;D

EDIT: Of course, he could have been blathering into a camera at the time. ::)
Don't forget it was an electric car not a petrol one ;) torque delivery is very different and the car won't respond the same way to throttle/brake inputs, especially at the limit...

Drop an empty Sprinter into second as you turn left off a damp roundabout at speed and see how much control you actually have...

In that clip he's obviously given it a bootful out of the previous hairpin and has braked and lifted off too quickly as he turned in... Backing off rather than completely lifting off has compounded the regenerative braking forces and the inevitable happened.

The second he dabbed the brakes as he turned in, he became a passenger.

In one episode of Top Gear Richard Hammond modestly described himself as 'a driving God' :)
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 15 June 2017, 12:13:36
Dunno wtf he was doing but that was a real crap piece of driving. He is well over to the left on the entrance to the left hander, tries to turn in too late and possibly brakes at the same time. Almost like he wasn't concentrating until he realised he was about to fall off the edge of the road. Most strange.  ???

Yes, actually, you're right. He was going quick enough that positioning into the bend would have been important, yet he didn't seem to make any attempt to get it right. Positioning himself over to the left meant he had to turn in sharply rather than "maximum constant radius" and the back end of the car had other ideas. ;D

EDIT: Of course, he could have been blathering into a camera at the time. ::)
Don't forget it was an electric car not a petrol one ;) torque delivery is very different and the car won't respond the same way to throttle/brake inputs, especially at the limit...

Drop an empty Sprinter into second as you turn left off a damp roundabout at speed and see how much control you actually have...

In that clip he's obviously given it a bootful out of the previous hairpin and has braked and lifted off too quickly as he turned in... Backing off rather than completely lifting off has compounded the regenerative braking forces and the inevitable happened.

The second he dabbed the brakes as he turned in, he became a passenger.

In one episode of Top Gear Richard Hammond modestly described himself as 'a driving God' :)
An in the same episode Clarkson concluded he was a sex God... ::)

Don't believe everything you watch on the telly, especially when it proclaims to be fact :D
Title: Re: Richard hammond crashes another car
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 June 2017, 12:31:46
Don't forget it was an electric car not a petrol one ;) torque delivery is very different and the car won't respond the same way to throttle/brake inputs, especially at the limit...

Drop an empty Sprinter into second as you turn left off a damp roundabout at speed and see how much control you actually have...

In that clip he's obviously given it a bootful out of the previous hairpin and has braked and lifted off too quickly as he turned in... Backing off rather than completely lifting off has compounded the regenerative braking forces and the inevitable happened.

The second he dabbed the brakes as he turned in, he became a passenger.

Petrol or electric makes no odds. His line into the second corner was completely wrong. As you say, he hooned it out of the previous corner but with no anticipation of what would come next. Exactly why race tracks throw the odd chicane at a driver to make things interesting. ;)

He was already destined to crash some time before he turned in, IMHO.