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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: frostbite on 24 June 2017, 17:14:18
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I just recieved this morning probably the oldest best deal ever from ebay, I think early 90s?
It says its not for the 3.0 carlton or the 24v senator, did those have vented rears?
for a massive £9 I got
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc244/frstbte01/20170624_170255_edit_1498320950002.jpg)
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Not a bargain. But equally not a bad deal. ;)
Yes. Equally only the pads are of any use for the 2.6/3.2 Omega :y
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good deal for you, bad deal maybe for the people of Skelmersdale http://www.asbestosadvicehelpline.com/is-asbestos-still-used-in-car-brake-pads/
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Ill have that fresh burning brake smell mmmmmmm makes me feel sick when ever I smell a burn clutch, like raw sewage
plenty of derty dervs driving about that are possibly worse than these pads ever will be
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yes but worse if they're using pads from early 1990s before asbestos was banned in brake pads.
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If they do contain asbestos, they will be better anchors and your discs can be harder too, with consequent longer life; if they were contemporaneous, they will be.
Unless you wilfully breathe any of the dust, you will be fine. In your one-off circumstances, it's a non-issue.
Ron.
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£10 delivered gets genuine OE GM ones for solid discs :)
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The oe pads may be a tenner but I remember getting the pins and spring clips seperate, they cost more than the mintex kit
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The oe pads may be a tenner but I remember getting the pins and spring clips seperate, they cost more than the mintex kit
OE rear pads come with fitting kit (ie, pins and rattle spring) :y
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If they do contain asbestos, they will be better anchors and your discs can be harder too, with consequent longer life; if they were contemporaneous, they will be.
Unless you wilfully breathe any of the dust, you will be fine. In your one-off circumstances, it's a non-issue.
Ron.
Istr asbestos pads give off less dust too ? Cant see any good reason why they banned them tbh. :D ;D
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Panic, Albs! Over-reaction, and the need to be "seen to be doing something" - like the specious argument regarding lead in petrol. Neither is harmful if proper caution is observed, but once again we suffer due to the woeful ignorance of our politicians..... >:(
Ron.
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Having a friend who died of mesothelioma, I do know why they banned it. It's really not a nice way to go, for the sake of brake disks that last a little longer.
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Having a friend who died of mesothelioma, I do know why they banned it. It's really not a nice way to go, for the sake of brake disks that last a little longer.
Cannot argue with that...
Is it not now illegal to sell pads containing asbestos? I know that even on newer cars replacement pads contain warnings that parts already fitted may contain it and to therefore be mindful not to breathe brake dust in...
From an asbestos awareness course at work, blue asbestos is still widely used in the US.
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Frostbite...
Read this...
http://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/mechanical-repair/asbestos.htm
Then contact the supplier of your brakepads and demand a refund plus disposal costs.
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Kevin, I'm sad to hear about your friend and in no way did I want to harm your memory of him, but I do see your point and I am wrong.
I claimed that it was safe if handled carefully, but in the ad hoc environment of a garage - commercial or home - if it needs to be treated with that much care, it is right that it was banned. Sorry. :(
Ron.
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I am going to email ferodo, the box has federal mogal on it and it was in 1998 that they partnered up. There isnt a great deal of info about the target range bit its stamped r90
Worth a shot and it may not even have asbestos
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I am going to email ferodo, the box has federal mogal on it and it was in 1998 that they partnered up. There isnt a great deal of info about the target range bit its stamped r90
Worth a shot and it may not even have asbestos
If it doesn't then happy days :y
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Kevin, I'm sad to hear about your friend and in no way did I want to harm your memory of him, but I do see your point and I am wrong.
I claimed that it was safe if handled carefully, but in the ad hoc environment of a garage - commercial or home - if it needs to be treated with that much care, it is right that it was banned. Sorry. :(
Ron.
No problem, Ron. :y You are correct that it's fine if undisturbed and handled correctly but, in an application like brakes that can't avoid generating dust we're better off without it.
Only a couple of weeks back I was using an airline to blow dust out of an old valve radio that I'm restoring for a friend, then I noticed asbestos insulation around the dropper resistor. :o
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Ouch! Now that is potentially dangerous; I hope you didn't release any particles?
Ah, old valve radios - that's where I started!
Can you still get ITMA and other good programmes on that vintage radio? ;D ;D ;D
Ron.
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Ouch! Now that is potentially dangerous; I hope you didn't release any particles?
Ah, old valve radios - that's where I started!
Can you still get ITMA and other good programmes on that vintage radio? ;D ;D ;D
Ron.
Can't get anything other than a whistle and a decent electric shock from it at the moment. It's an AC/DC set so depending on which way round you plug the mains lead in, there's a 50% chance that the chassis is live. The thing I found funny is that, if you happen to get it right and the chassis is at neutral potential, the switch is in the neutral line, so turn it off and the chassis is live again. I couldn't have done a better job of making it lethal if I'd tried. :o
Needless to say, I've dug out an isolating transformer.
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Needless to say, I've dug out an isolating transformer.
Where's your sense of adventure, man?
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Kevin, I have a hair-raising retro experience too......
One memorable day long ago and in a far distant place, I was fault-finding on a "wireless" and employed the standard technique ot touching the top caps of some of the valves, because they were always the grid electrodes, right?
WRONG!
I found one that was an anode, and rhe metallised jacket of the valve was earthed, which anothe finger also contacted.......
I expressed my regret at doing so quite vocally! >:(
Ron.
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Ouch! Having played with a few valve transmitters, I have a healthy respect for the top caps. ;D
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I learned very early in life always to keep one hand in my pocket when working on equipment - No, dirty-minded lot, NOT for that reason - but that didn't protect me from that awakening moment with the anode cap at 350 volts and the earthed metallised casing!
Some lessons you NEVER forget!
Ron.
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I learned very early in life always to keep one hand in my pocket when working on equipment - No, dirty-minded lot, NOT for that reason - but that didn't protect me from that awakening moment with the anode cap at 350 volts and the earthed metallised casing!
Some lessons you NEVER forget!
Ron.
I was taught that too, in my early days of setting up CRT monitors.
Plus have someone close by when messing about with CRT with 10's of thousands of volts flying around. :y
Also iirc, the flooring in the 'lab' area was carpet tiles with rubber backing, to try to minimise the result of touching something you shouldn't have :)
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Also, no matter how long the CRT has been off, the effective capacitor formed by the internal and ecternal conductive layers still retain a lot of the 25kV charge, so discharge it MANY times before removing it from the tv/monitor - or SUFFER!
I've know people throw big and heavy CRTs high in the air due to their forgetting this simple procedure!
Ron.
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Definitely got that t-shirt!
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Also, no matter how long the CRT has been off, the effective capacitor formed by the internal and ecternal conductive layers still retain a lot of the 25kV charge, so discharge it MANY times before removing it from the tv/monitor - or SUFFER!
I've know people throw big and heavy CRTs high in the air due to their forgetting this simple procedure!
Ron.
Pair of big screwdrivers soon discharges it. Just use the proper tool in you 224 exam ::).
;D
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With bloody well insulated handles, yes TB!
I've actually done that in a customer's house, not realising that she was close by - she went running to her knicker drawer! ;D
Ron.
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Ok back on topic,
I have emailed ferodo, but upon sending the email I stumbled upon their history
in the 80s they were the first european manufacturer to not use asbesdos in friction linings
so we'll see
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Sorry for hi-jacking your topic, "frostbite": blame KW, who started talking about vintage radios, which set me off!
Still, I do love the way that threads here are organic and assume a life of their own sometimes......
Ron.
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Got an old Nordmende radiogram in the loft. Must dig it out sometime and see if it still works.
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If it's anything like the radiogram (love thet term) that we had, Albs, you must be super-strong to have got it up there and have a huge loft!
Ah, Nordmende - distant echoes.....
Look after that radiogram, it could be quite valuable.
Ron.