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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tidla on 26 June 2017, 20:36:15
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After driving one today, I decided to look up the benefits.
As the engine is stationary and not running, this reduces the CO2 emissions and as such reduces the vehicle excise duty.
As i only use my 3.0 omega once a week to get the shopping in, im due a VED tax rebate. :y
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Yep, sounds like a plan, in fact Im going to get more VED discount by pulling out a couple of spark plugs, after all a miss fire with unburnt fuel should produce less CO2. ;D
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In your dreams ;D also stop/start is a PITA. :)
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I usually disable mine, only turning it on at sections of road or lights I know have long waits.
Has its benefit though, £30/year VED :D
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Hated it on every vehicle I've driven with it. Interesting when you go to pull out of a busy junction and it decides to kill the ignition just as you go to press the throttle....
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Just switch it off...or let your foot rest on the clutch pedal a tiny bit. The parameters for it to actually work mean it doesn't most of the time anyway....not in town driving anyway.
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Hated it on every vehicle I've driven with it. Interesting when you go to pull out of a busy junction and it decides to kill the ignition just as you go to press the throttle....
Absolute work of Satin. Plus the biggest reason, I reckon, why only 2 cars ever get through any set of lights nowadays.
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Yup, couple it with a small capacity turbo engine and it's little short of an assisted suicide button.
Pull up to a roundabout. See a gap, push the accelerator -PAUSE- engine starts -PAUUUSE- turbo lag. Oh, I've just pulled out in front of an HGV. :o
The fact it defaults to ON is the single biggest bugbear I have with SWMBO's yeti.
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Nah. If you pull up at a roundabout, you're not going to put it into neutral and fully let the clutch out. Stop/start is quite easy to control if you know how to use it. I only drive the wife's captur to pit fuel in it and it's never stopped on me.
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Except the yeti is DSG so you have to feather the throttle enough to keep it alive but without moving forward, which, I assume is also riding the box's clutch(es).
Foot on the brake, or no feet (hill hold engages) and the engine cuts.
TBH I am making a bit much of it. It's a more acute problem for me because I haven't generally had it on my own cars. Other than the BMW, but I drive that mostly in sport plus, which disengages it.
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You can always turn it off as soon as you get in the car. Can't really understand people moaning about flicking a switch before driving off, but that's the society we live in.
A good war would sort the bastards out. :)
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If it's dark, wifey's car switches on the lights. If it's raining, it puts on the wipers.
I have to press buttons in mine. Such a nuisance, it sometimes makes me late for appointments. ::)
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It all just promotes laziness and lack of thinking.
It is getting dark... put your lights on
It is raining..put your wipers on
The lights are going to change, engage brain, clutch, gear, look out for pedestrians ....
Or in reality. Text mate, polish nails, have a shave, beggar the lights have changedback to red. Give driver behind finger for pipping horn.
Wont b long before we sot in he back seat and driving is done by a machine.
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Except the yeti is DSG so you have to feather the throttle enough to keep it alive but without moving forward, which, I assume is also riding the box's clutch(es).
Foot on the brake, or no feet (hill hold engages) and the engine cuts.
TBH I am making a bit much of it. It's a more acute problem for me because I haven't generally had it on my own cars. Other than the BMW, but I drive that mostly in sport plus, which disengages it.
Bring the Yeti to me, I can disable start/stop permanently. :)
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Bring the Yeti to me, I can disable start/stop permanently. :)
I really should :).
If we keep it beyond its warranty, I'm going to invest in the kit myself, it seems like a really powerful system!
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Hated it on every vehicle I've driven with it. Interesting when you go to pull out of a busy junction and it decides to kill the ignition just as you go to press the throttle....
Absolute work of Satin. Plus the biggest reason, I reckon, why only 2 cars ever get through any set of lights nowadays.
But as soon as there's an environmental argument, everything else goes out of the window including safety.
A bit like cladding tower blocks in foam, I suppose.
I really wonder if anyone has analysed the waste that results from the decreased life of batteries and starters against the fuel saving. I bet it actually gains nothing at all. ::)
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Bring the Yeti to me, I can disable start/stop permanently. :)
I really should :).
If we keep it beyond its warranty, I'm going to invest in the kit myself, it seems like a really powerful system!
:y :y :y
Normally there is a tweaks site for a model of car, but nothing for Yeti. Is it based on Golf?
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Diagnostic_Procedures#Skoda (http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Diagnostic_Procedures#Skoda)
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Quick search for Yeti mods gives a list some have done:
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/330673-top-vcds-mods/ (https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/330673-top-vcds-mods/)
Cornering lights (don't tell Entwood)
Looks like "Hill Hold" control caused debate there, personally I found it a great feature. (standard on mine)
XDS? Looks like this can be enabled as well :-\
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My car has stop/start which I have to switch off every time I start the engine.
Apparently it makes a small difference to Co2 figures......270 with stop/start........283 without.
I imagine the battery and starter motor will have a shorter life if stop/start function is engaged.
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My Mondeo has it & seems to work well enough.
There are a whole list of conditions to be met before it will work - one being battery charge having to be at least 75%.
I seem to go through phases of it not working until I do a decent journey & then it starts behaving as it should.
Given that it's been around for a decade now I'm surprised that we don't hear of more cases of it going wrong/playing up.
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How do the batteries hold up?
I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
People don't though..... ::)
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
People don't though..... ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
People don't though..... ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.
Start stop auto disables if it can't cool the car, in the hot weather I found just few moments after I stopped it would start again in an aid to keep the air-con going.
On my commute I take in a bit of Great West Road in London, few lights with longish wait.
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Yeah, I don't mind it personally - there are a couple of junctions (one mini roundabout and one half-arsed roundabout) in Northampton where I disable it on approach, but other than that it stays enabled.
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I have it on the Seat Ateca and am used to it now but I have a bad habit of coasting to a stop in traffic with the car in neutral, once the revs drop to idle speed in neutral it cuts out and the power steering obviously cuts off but you can still be moving. The thing also slammed on the brakes violently the other day when I was a bit late braking, I have now turned the sensitivity of the front assist system down!
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I have it on the Seat Ateca and am used to it now but I have a bad habit of coasting to a stop in traffic with the car in neutral, once the revs drop to idle speed in neutral it cuts out and the power steering obviously cuts off but you can still be moving. The thing also slammed on the brakes violently the other day when I was a bit late braking, I have now turned the sensitivity of the front assist system down!
Does not sound right, I do the same, pop it in neutral coming to a line of traffic/queue. But the engine only switches off when I've come to a complete stop.
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I have it on the Seat Ateca and am used to it now but I have a bad habit of coasting to a stop in traffic with the car in neutral, once the revs drop to idle speed in neutral it cuts out and the power steering obviously cuts off but you can still be moving. The thing also slammed on the brakes violently the other day when I was a bit late braking, I have now turned the sensitivity of the front assist system down!
Does not sound right, I do the same, pop it in neutral coming to a line of traffic/queue. But the engine only switches off when I've come to a complete stop.
Yes prettt much every system I have seen requires neutral to be selected, clutch up and speed to be less than 1-2mph
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Quick search for Yeti mods gives a list some have done:
https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/330673-top-vcds-mods/ (https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/330673-top-vcds-mods/)
Cornering lights (don't tell Entwood)
Looks like "Hill Hold" control caused debate there, personally I found it a great feature. (standard on mine)
XDS? Looks like this can be enabled as well :-\
Very cool thanks! 8) IIRC, its all polo underneath, could be wrong though. I like hill-hold as I reckon it is helping the DSG's clutch (mostly because im too lazy to use the handbrake properly).
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Hated it on every vehicle I've driven with it. Interesting when you go to pull out of a busy junction and it decides to kill the ignition just as you go to press the throttle....
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The bloody hire car we had on holiday had it, pain the arse, get to junction ready steady, STOP, wtf bit un)nerving when it happens the 1st time and you don't know the car has it.
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It's a piece of piss, and anyone who can't handle it shouldn't really be driving.
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
People don't though..... ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.
Start stop auto disables if it can't cool the car, in the hot weather I found just few moments after I stopped it would start again in an aid to keep the air-con going.
Try a Civic. Bloody thing stops at every junction in 35C heat, when you have its piss poor A/C on lowest temp. I sent the first one back, believing both the A/C and the stop/start was faulty, but its replacement was the same.
Granted, that's the worse implementation I've come across though. The Focus I had last month was all too keen to turn off, but single button to quickly disable, which isn't such a hardship.
But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.
I do believe Alb's Merc *should* have start-stop though, else he'd be craving fish and chips at every junction.
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But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.
Think of the wee children and their poor little lungs TB! ::) :'( ;D
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But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.
Think of the wee children and their poor little lungs TB! ::) :'( ;D
So ban all diesels, and any petrol over 1l then ;)
Or shoot the little bastids.
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Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident. There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere. ::) The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour. ;)
If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience. :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)
People don't though..... ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.
Start stop auto disables if it can't cool the car, in the hot weather I found just few moments after I stopped it would start again in an aid to keep the air-con going.
Try a Civic. Bloody thing stops at every junction in 35C heat, when you have its piss poor A/C on lowest temp. I sent the first one back, believing both the A/C and the stop/start was faulty, but its replacement was the same.
Granted, that's the worse implementation I've come across though. The Focus I had last month was all too keen to turn off, but single button to quickly disable, which isn't such a hardship.
But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.
I do believe Alb's Merc *should* have start-stop though, else he'd be craving fish and chips at every junction.
Here we go again. 'Piss about constantly', pressing a button. It's a wonder some people don't complain about having to breathe.
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Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.
I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.
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In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.
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How do the batteries hold up?
I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.
It's got a higher capacity & spec battery. Car is 5 years old & is still on the original factory fitted unit with 64k on the clock. I suppose given the average battery life is what, 5 years - it must be coming towards the end of its life .....
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Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.
I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.
In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.
Don't think of the money you're not saving, think of the pollution your saving M'lud! Think of the poor little children! :)
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How do the batteries hold up?
I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.
It's got a higher capacity & spec battery. Car is 5 years old & is still on the original factory fitted unit with 64k on the clock. I suppose given the average battery life is what, 5 years - it must be coming towards the end of its life .....
I would expect a battery to last 8yrs+
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Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.
I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.
In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.
Don't think of the money you're not saving, think of the pollution your saving M'lud! Think of the poor little children! :)
But if its less economical, its causing more pollution (before getting on to wasting scarce resources making batteries) :-\
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It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal. :D ;D
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It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal. :D ;D
I was going to say, my Morris Ital used to stall at every junction at one point. Never realised it was so ahead of its' time. 8)
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How do the batteries hold up?
I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.
It's got a higher capacity & spec battery. Car is 5 years old & is still on the original factory fitted unit with 64k on the clock. I suppose given the average battery life is what, 5 years - it must be coming towards the end of its life .....
I would expect a battery to last 8yrs+
It doesn't count if you have to put it on charge every time you get out if you want it to start next time, though.. or have you changed the battery in the mumbus now? :P ;D
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The big thing to remember with these start/stop equipped cars is to use a suitable oil, or you'll wear your crankshaft bearings out well before you starter motor. Most are fitted with heavy duty tandem solenoid starters, so they should be ok.
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It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal. :D ;D
I was going to say, my Morris Ital used to stall at every junction at one point. Never realised it was so ahead of its' time. 8)
Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
I think I have just invented a BL advertising slogan. ;D
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Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
.. provided they are content with self-gratification when it comes to "pulling", of course. ;)
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Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
.. provided they are content with self-gratification when it comes to "pulling", of course. ;)
Are you suggesting Marina owners struggle to find girlfriends, Kevin?
By 'girlfriend' I mean those with two legs but without the thick white woolen coat.
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Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
.. provided they are content with self-gratification when it comes to "pulling", of course. ;)
Are you suggesting Marina owners struggle to find girlfriends, Kevin?
By 'girlfriend' I mean those with two legs but without the thick white woolen coat.
I don't believe they ever made the 1800TC Coupe version of the Ital. :-\
If they did, Kevins 'Marina' experience would have much more satisfying! ;) :y
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Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
.. provided they are content with self-gratification when it comes to "pulling", of course. ;)
Are you suggesting Marina owners struggle to find girlfriends, Kevin?
By 'girlfriend' I mean those with two legs but without the thick white woolen coat.
I don't believe they ever made the 1800TC Coupe version of the Ital. :-\
If they did, Kevins 'Marina' experience would have much more satisfying! ;) :y
Marina 1800TC coupe. Top of the line. :)
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Marina or Ital.....all the car anyone could need. :y
.. provided they are content with self-gratification when it comes to "pulling", of course. ;)
Are you suggesting Marina owners struggle to find girlfriends, Kevin?
By 'girlfriend' I mean those with two legs but without the thick white woolen coat.
I don't believe they ever made the 1800TC Coupe version of the Ital. :-\
If they did, Kevins 'Marina' experience would have much more satisfying! ;) :y
Marina 1800TC coupe. Top of the line. :)
Especially in mustard with a black go faster stripe down the bonnet! ;D
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Nah, that was just a Marina pretending to be an Avenger Tiger. ;)
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It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal. :D ;D
I was going to say, my Morris Ital used to stall at every junction at one point. Never realised it was so ahead of its' time. 8)
Will the do-gooding tree shaggers insist future cars have trunnions?
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Will the do-gooding tree shaggers insist future cars have trunnions?
Probably, as most haven't evolved beyond the Morris Traveller living in trees. ::)